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Has Alec Baldwin had a psychological break
or is this a tryout for his defense?

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Posted By: DW626, 12/2/2021 5:38:11 AM

We’ve all heard the slogan “Guns don’t kill people, people kill people,” and human nature seems to bear out that bit of wisdom. The beginning of the book of Genesis recounts the story of Cain and Abel, two brothers who had a fatal falling out long before guns were invented. The only human remains found in the La Brea Tar Pits of Los Angeles belonged to a young woman who seems to have been a homicide victim 9000 years ago, again, long before guns were invented. Even after the invention of guns, people continue to kill each other with everything from common household implements to exotic poisons to complicated bombs.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: coldoc 12/2/2021 5:55:44 AM (No. 994615)
Alec seems to be like every other liberal progressive. He thinks he is smarter than everyone else. Sad for him, the opposite is more likely.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: NancyD 12/2/2021 6:32:26 AM (No. 994636)
He's shrugging off personal responsibility. He knows with today's media he can convince them of anything and they will take the ball and run with it.. I think Baldwin has mental issues.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: RCFLyer98 12/2/2021 6:34:13 AM (No. 994637)
From what I've read, he should be tried for man-slaughter or at least sued for wrongful death. Someone died . . . he pulled the trigger that caused the death.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Wetenschapper 12/2/2021 6:41:13 AM (No. 994645)
While I first took this 'defense' to be as ridiculous as it sounds on its face, it occurred to me that the firearm involved was a replica of a late 19th-century single-action revolver that, presumably, lacks many of the safety features of a modern handgun. Is it possible that snapping the hammer without actually cocking it or pulling the trigger could cause an accidental discharge if, contrary to normal safe practice, a live round was left in the top chamber? Perhaps someone here with more experience with antique firearms could answer this question.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Roscoelewis 12/2/2021 6:53:09 AM (No. 994653)
He's an actor. He's doing what actors do - he's acting.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Krause 12/2/2021 6:56:56 AM (No. 994656)
The gun did it!
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Reply 7 - Posted by: SweetPea3 12/2/2021 6:59:44 AM (No. 994658)
The wife beater blame everyone else. What a soooprize!
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Skinnydip 12/2/2021 7:01:41 AM (No. 994660)
What a ridiculous, over-dramatized interview. The press will do everything they can to defend this POS.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Paperpuncher 12/2/2021 7:03:44 AM (No. 994662)
Not only did he pull the trigger he had to manually c-ck the hammer all the way back before the trigger was pulled. This was a modern version of a single action western revolver that the hammer has to be c-cked with each shot. The trigger does not pull itself. Just goes to show what an arrogant moron this guy is.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: homefry 12/2/2021 7:04:35 AM (No. 994664)
Neither. He is doing what dim-0s do. He is LYING.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: F15 Gork 12/2/2021 7:28:27 AM (No. 994679)
Beavis & Butthead defense: “It wasn’t me...I didn’t do it”
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Reply 12 - Posted by: jinx 12/2/2021 7:37:25 AM (No. 994687)
Why would they have a real gun on a set in the first place? Why were people using real guns for target practice on the set? If a gun was not needed in the scene he was in, why was he playing with one? If he is so against guns, why make a movie using guns? He is working hard to cover his b--tt, but it is not working. He needs to stand trial and let justice be served. He is not above the law.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: philsner 12/2/2021 7:53:38 AM (No. 994696)
Just so sad all around. A young woman is dead, her family is devastated, and now Baldwin - whether or not he admits it - forever has to confront his own ignorance and flawed worldview. It looks to me like his sins have found him. We should pray for everyone involved.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: JrSample 12/2/2021 8:07:07 AM (No. 994715)
Modern replicas of the 1873 Colt have a transfer bar safety that prevents the hammer/firing pin from resting on a loaded cartridge. The Pietta manufactured revolver has this feature. It prevents the weapon from firing accidentally if the uncocked hammer is struck. The original Colt did not have this, it was common for a cowboy to be crippled from having a stirrup drop and strike his holstered gun while his was cinching the saddle on his horse. To be safe, they would only load 5 rounds in the cylinder with the hammer resting on an empty chamber while in the holster. Six rounds would be loaded into the ''six-shooter'' only when it was going to be used immediately and not carried in a holster.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: walcb 12/2/2021 8:17:39 AM (No. 994735)
Thanks #14, great info. The gun could have been cocked when Baldwin took possession but that doesn't excuse him pointing the gun at someone. Everyone should know you don't point any gun at someone unless you have intentions to pull the trigger.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Clinger 12/2/2021 8:20:11 AM (No. 994738)
If I was in a room holding a gun when someone took a lethal round and I didn't pull the trigger, the first thing out of my mouth would be how the hell did that happen I didn't even pull the bleeping trigger. I wouldn't run around showing my distraught self in public apologizing, blaming the prop lady and weeks later mention by the way funny thing, I didn't even pull the trigger. If an original Colt 45 had a live round under the hammer and you dropped it and it landed on the hammer spur, an accidental discharge can happen. That's why many carried them with no cartridge in that chamber and only loaded the other five. Other than that as others have noted it takes a deliberate act starting with pulling the hammer back. I'll have to check but I don't think that prior to the final pull from half cok to full cok that the cylinder is fully indexed so that an accidental release of the hammer (prior to reaching half cok) would cause it to fall on the primer. The live round needed to be one chamber away from alignment with the barrel so that the necessary act of cocking the hammer would index the live round to the firing position. He's relying on the ignorance of the public at large who have been led to believe that guns possess a form of artificial intelligence and ninja robot skills and go about slaughtering people all by themselves.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: RayLRiv 12/2/2021 8:34:03 AM (No. 994753)
I don't feel sorry for Alec. He needs to stew in his own pew.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Hazymac 12/2/2021 8:42:07 AM (No. 994761)
A friend at the local Publix who sometimes helps me to my car with the groceries asked me about the Alec Baldwin shooting, and I responded that Alec had violated all four of Col. Jeff Cooper's Rules of Gun Safety before he shot Ms. Hutchins. One could never handle a gun less responsibly than Baldwin did. But, hey, he won't allow any NRA people around his sets, even though NRA members are the most rigorous on gun safety. My Publix friend mentioned, approvingly, that Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson has, after Baldwin, decided not to allow guns on any more of his movie sets. I disagreed, calling the Rock a pussy, because he has proven himself to be one.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: privateer 12/2/2021 8:50:08 AM (No. 994770)
Nice try, meathead. And, if there were the 9000 year old remains of a woman found in the La Brea tar pits, couldn't DNA determine who are REALLY the native Americans?
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Reply 20 - Posted by: caddyjak 12/2/2021 9:08:19 AM (No. 994802)
Baldwin is a long-time member of the Hollywood Crime School which thrives on murder and mayhem. Most U.S. teenagers have witnessed over 2500 movie murders before their 16th birthday. Imitation will naturally follow by some of them.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: planetgeo 12/2/2021 9:08:53 AM (No. 994803)
Looks like this time he's really got Shweddy Balls and it's not just an SNL skit.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: FunOne 12/2/2021 9:20:11 AM (No. 994816)
Anyone lacking the basic firearm safety knowledge should not pick up a gun. This is especially true for outright idiots such as Baldwin.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Ditto1958 12/2/2021 9:46:28 AM (No. 994855)
Hmmm… in my over 6 decades on earth, I’ve fired guns thousands if times and not once has one “gone off” without me pulling the trigger I’ve worked at a shooting range supervising many many other shooters and not once has any gun at the range fired without someone pulling the trigger
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Reply 24 - Posted by: SweetSweetback 12/2/2021 9:48:58 AM (No. 994861)
Yeah Alec, the "Poltergeist Defense" should be able to work.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: PChristopher 12/2/2021 9:54:23 AM (No. 994867)
"It was the gun!".....John Wilkes Booth
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Reply 26 - Posted by: red1066 12/2/2021 9:57:31 AM (No. 994871)
He saying he didn't pull the trigger. Then how did the gun go off with his finger on the trigger? So much for his Match Game career.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: FLCracker 12/2/2021 10:21:00 AM (No. 994901)
#5, from one of the articles about this: "An emotional Baldwin visibly fights back tears when talking about Hutchins." I bet we could review his "oeuvre" and find footage of him doing exactly the same thing (except for the Hutchins part.) I saw this interview advertised as "Alec Baldwin, Unscripted". I wonder how many times he rehearsed that "unscripted" moment.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: edgar 12/2/2021 10:21:56 AM (No. 994905)
It is a test as he is trying to raise 'doubt'. However, there is no doubt that he had the gun and pulled the trigger. Can anyone in the history of guns identify a case where the gun shot itself when in the hand of a capable human being?
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Reply 29 - Posted by: Marzon 12/2/2021 10:46:47 AM (No. 994934)
To have gone off without pulling the trigger, it would have had to not had the transfer bar safety which I nearly all the Colt Single Action Army replicas have. If they had a gun that did not have it that was negligent in itself. Even if they had a gun without a transfer bar, the only way it could have gone off without the trigger being pulled would be if the hammer was all the way down on a live round (which is an incredibly negligent way to carry a gun) and the hammer was struck a moderate blow. Or if the hammer was on half c_ck or full c_ck the only way it could have gone off is if the hammer was struck hard enough to break off the sear notch or the half c_ck notch. If that occurred it would be evident in the most quick examination of the gun. For that matter it a notch had been worn or broken before it was given to Baldwin it would have been evident to anyone handling the gun and they should have stopped using the gun.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: EJKrausJr 12/2/2021 10:53:14 AM (No. 994945)
He just cocked his weapon. But he hasn't checked his load. My guess is he is just another outlaw facing down Marshal Dillon. The outcome is predetermined. If the prosecutors are competent. Guilty of at least negligent homicide.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: jacksin5 12/2/2021 10:55:14 AM (No. 994947)
As my Dad always said, " You have to be smarter than the tools you're playing with".
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Reply 32 - Posted by: Strike3 12/2/2021 11:01:26 AM (No. 994953)
Baldwin is a miserable, hateful, egotistical, poor excuse for a human being. He should be locked up on general principles. He was holding the gun, he pointed the gun at people, he pulled the trigger. Case Closed.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: Strike3 12/2/2021 11:08:30 AM (No. 994958)
Baldwin has been right about one thing he has been saying for a long time, "Guns are dangerous." To complete the thought, "Gun are more dangerous in the hands of an idiot."
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Reply 34 - Posted by: Italiano 12/2/2021 11:14:43 AM (No. 994965)
#4, if you experience an AD, make sure that the weapon is not pointed at someone's head. I can think of a few exceptions, Alec Baldwin being one of them, but that is the general rule
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Reply 35 - Posted by: lynngirl122 12/2/2021 12:19:07 PM (No. 995067)
I think it was an accident. He did not intend to kill the woman. He is not a career criminal or a murdering thug. We all do stupid things. I have done a lot of stupid things. I see myself in him. We all have the potential to harm someone or kill someone by mistake yes by mistake. If suffering is what you want to inflict on him he has suffered and always will suffer because his brain will not turn off at night when he puts his head on his pillow. Before you condemn him ask yourself if you should be condemned as well.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: DVC 12/2/2021 12:42:43 PM (No. 995091)
Re #14. Pietta replicas of the Colt 1873 revolver have mostly been made with the same exact mechanism as the original Colts. Some versions have been made with transfer bars, but seem to be in a definite minority, in their current online page they only mention the transfer bar design with their .22 rimfire caliber guns, none of the larger centerfire calibers are mentioned. The odds are very high that this was a real duplicate of the Colt 1873, not a transfer bar model.
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Reply 37 - Posted by: JHHolliday 12/2/2021 12:47:07 PM (No. 995099)
Well, #34. I also think it was an accident. An accident caused by Baldwin’s stupidity along with others. Saying the gun just “went off” is an attempt to weasel out of responsibility and he also figures that the media will run with this and provide him cover and they will. Most have no idea about how real guns work especially replicas. Look for some ridiculous spin coming from MSNBC et al.
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Reply 38 - Posted by: JHHolliday 12/2/2021 12:48:46 PM (No. 995100)
Sorry #34. That post was an reply to #35.
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Reply 39 - Posted by: Kumoan 12/2/2021 12:52:56 PM (No. 995105)
I have read that Baldwin said that he was going to demonstrate how he would draw the pistol from his holster, so why would he even have it cocked and his finger on the trigger? Dumb move similar to that pulled off by that stupid, evil Soros stooge that persecuted Mr. Rittenhouse. Maybe they ride on the same short bus?
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Reply 40 - Posted by: Faithfully 12/2/2021 7:41:17 PM (No. 995430)
He was a big bully to his younger brothers. This is Karma. Wait to see if he has the good character to take responsibility. I doubt it.
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Reply 41 - Posted by: YorkieMom 12/2/2021 8:11:48 PM (No. 995443)
I think Baldwin was being a show off and smart arse because he thinks he’s the smartest person in any room. He’s not as smart as he thinks he is.
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Reply 42 - Posted by: NYbob 12/2/2021 11:45:46 PM (No. 995551)
How old is Baldwin? How many hours/days has he used a gun on set? How many armorers instructed him, showed him the weapon was clear or hot? Most importantly how many times did he actually shoot a blank at another actor? THAT sort of scene would normally have everyone triple checking the weapon. He is FAR too experienced to claim he didn't know what happened. He has handled weapons of all types for decades. He lost control and was showing off, trying to be weirdly aggressive with the women or maybe he was stoned. In any case there are far too many factors at play to pass this off as the kind of accident that could happen to anyone. People are convicted on far less facts than this. He is guilty of manslaughter and should serve time. At least as much as Wesley Snipes, who didn't kill anyone.
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“Say the word!” speaker after speaker implored the crowd. Reparations!” the audience responded loudly each time. Dozens of faith leaders and advocates gathered outside the Statehouse in Trenton for a rally Thursday to continue a more than two-year push for New Jersey to establish a task force to study the history of slavery in the state and consider possible reparations because of it. The demonstrators, organized by the New Jersey Faith Allies for a Reparations Task Force, urged the Democratic-controlled state Legislature to pass the bill (S322) during the lame-duck voting session the began Thursday and ends Jan. 11. “We come here today to demand
The parents of the Michigan high school
shooting suspect are charged with involuntary
manslaughter in connection with the rampage
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Posted by earlybird 12/3/2021 1:20:53 PM Post Reply
The parents of the 15-year-old charged in this week's deadly shooting at Michigan's Oxford High School have been charged with four counts each of homicide involuntary manslaughter. The charges against James and Jennifer Crumbley were filed Friday morning in 52nd District Court in Rochester Hills. It is rare for parents to be charged like this, CNN senior legal analyst Elie Honig said. "What the prosecutor is saying is: Let's look at the parents' responsibility,” (snip) "This is really a new frontier." James Crumbley bought the gun four days before it was used in the shooting, prosecutor Karen McDonald said Friday at a news conference. Sophomore Ethan Crumbley was with him and later posted
UPenn trans swimmer sparks outrage by
SMASHING women's competition records after
competing as a man for three seasons
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Posted by Ribicon 12/2/2021 11:07:39 AM Post Reply
A trans swimmer at the University of Pennsylvania, who previously spent three years competing in men's competitions is now breaking records in women's events. Lia Thomas, formerly named Will, has competed in a number of events recently, as she attended a tri-meet with Cornell and Princeton universities on November 20. She 'blasted' University of Pennsylvania records in the 200m freestyle and 500m freestyle at the event—posting times that beat almost any other female swimmers across America. And with a time of 1:43:47 in the 200m freestyle, Thomas would have been in line to secure a silver medal at the NCAA Women's Championships,
Liz Cheney reads prepared statement concerning
Trump that sounds a lot like a threat
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Posted by Imright 12/3/2021 9:55:22 AM Post Reply
Reading from a prepared statement that presumably was handed to her by a staffer on the Democrat-controlled J6 U.S. House investigation committee, self-righteous anti-Trump Congresswoman Liz Cheney (R – Wyo.) seemed to be threatening POTUS 45 with perjury charges.[President Trump] “has recently suggested that he wants to debate members of this committee. This committee’s investigation into the violent assault on our Capitol on January 6 is not a game,” she declared during a committee hearing.“When this committee convenes hearings, witnesses will be called to testify under oath.
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