How the Taliban Overran the Afghan Army,
Built by the U.S. Over 20 Years
Wall Street Journal,
by
Yaroslav Trofimov
Original Article
Posted By: Moritz55,
8/15/2021 8:01:22 AM
The Afghan government outpost in Imam Sahib, a district of northern Kunduz province, held out for two months after being surrounded by the Taliban. At first, elite commando units would come once a week on a resupply run. Then, these runs became more scarce, as did the supplies.
“In the last days, there was no food, no water and no weapons,” said trooper Taj Mohammad, 38. Fleeing in one armored personnel carrier and one Ford Ranger, the remaining men finally made a run to the relative safety of the provincial capital, which collapsed weeks later. They left behind another 11 APCs to the Taliban.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
helibobber 8/15/2021 8:05:23 AM (No. 879520)
Paywall.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
sanspeur 8/15/2021 8:10:48 AM (No. 879530)
#1, read Daniel Greenfield ,”A Myth called Afghanistan “. How a pre modern tribal people have no concept of “country” .and do not care .They hate the other tribes , always have , always will .
Remind you of a soon to be post modern amerika ? no borders or country here soon .
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
montwoodcliff 8/15/2021 8:42:25 AM (No. 879581)
What I would like to know is who are the people advising our illegitimate and demented president? Let me guess. It is all of those generals Obama appointed after purging the Defense Department of those who were under Bush and even Clinton. And what were our Joint Chiefs doing all this time like Miley et al? I know, they were rooting out right wing extremists under the orders of the Secretary of Defense, Lloyd Austin! If this were a Latin American country, I know what would be happening next, but we don’t do those things here. The next elections can’t get here fast enough.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
VAPMAN 8/15/2021 8:45:42 AM (No. 879587)
Where is George W Bush who started this nation building catastrophe? Probably hiding in his art studio painting wounded soldier pictures.
Where is Obama who continued halfheartedly Bush’s nation building catastrophe for an additional 8 years. Probably in his seaside mansion planning his next big ME party.
Where is Joe Biden who is responsible for this terribly executed withdrawal debacle? Probably he doesn’t even know where he is.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
SkeezerMcGee 8/15/2021 8:48:48 AM (No. 879593)
The Biden Administration's decision to leave is correct. The manner of withdrawal is a major clusterf**k.
Twenty years training and equipping the Afghan government is enough U.S. "staying power."
It's now obvious that the Afghan government will not defend itself. The Taliban's takeover is due to the lack of guts in the Afghan government. With a few exceptions they are cowards who will not fight.
Biden announced the withdrawal which gave the Taliban more than enough time to prepare its takeover.
And it's an outrage that the U.S. abandoned vehicles and weapons that are being captured by the Taliban.
Where are NATO and other entities?
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It was never Xiden's decision to leave. Trump started the process for an orderly transition out of the country with a slower drawdown and specific timelines and milestones that had to be met by both sides. Resident Pudding Head and his cast of idiots at State and Defense tossed all that out the window, and threw everyone to the wolves. He is an arsehole of epic proportions, surrounded by the worst of the worst of the Sparklefarts admininstration.
In fact, this whole shtshow reeks of King Stinky.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
GO3 8/15/2021 8:56:02 AM (No. 879602)
We didn't build an army; we built a joke. If you have ever watched the movie, The Beast, you notice with few exceptions the mujaheddin function at a basic 10 year old mentality. A friend was embedded with several groups a few years ago and he said things haven't changed. The reason the Taliban is victorious is because they are maybe a little bit smarter and more experienced than the government troops. Which is all the more exasperating considering they won and the US lost.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 8/15/2021 9:22:23 AM (No. 879632)
Paywall.
I suspect the taliban infiltrated Afghan army long ago. And rather sad that the army chickened out and decided their country was not worth saving. Their must have also been a fair bit of propagandizing by the taliban going on to ridicule and demoralize them. Sounds familiar, no?
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
red1066 8/15/2021 9:24:22 AM (No. 879634)
Anyone around during the Vietnam war has seen this movie before. The Afghan so called soldiers may have been trained by U.S. soldiers, but having nice uniforms and guns doesn't make it an army. There was no will to fight by most of these people. You could see this coming years ago with every Afghan soldier who turned their gun on a allied soldier. From what I understand, Afghan soldiers had to be watched so they didn't sell their weapons to make money or turn on U.S. soldiers.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Condor44 8/15/2021 9:53:37 AM (No. 879663)
Why do people continue to post knowing the article(s) is behind a payall?
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 8/15/2021 9:55:17 AM (No. 879665)
One thing said in the article was the provinces were receiving fewer and fewer supplies until they finally stopped altogether. Did Afghanistan run out of supplies? Who is suppose to supply them?
This endeavor was doomed to fail 20 years ago. Afghanistan cannot stand on its own two feet. It is less a nation, and more a region with a collection of tribes, none of which willing to work together. These people will not defend themselves.
The United States should keep that in mind the next time to consider invading a country.
At the speed the Taliban is moving, have to believe they are getting assistance from foreign advisors.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
bigfatslob 8/15/2021 9:59:30 AM (No. 879669)
Twenty years down the drain in the shortest time ever. That didn't work out well the 'army' just threw down weapons and walked home. The Taliban defeats the mighty U.S. military with a Toyota truck and a few Russian made RPGs and we skirt home leaving a used car lot of vehicles along with weapons. You wonder who these stupid idiots are who enact these fiascos disasters. Who does these dumb things politicians-generals? Fear not we never learn our lesson the last man who who understood how to lead and fight was drummed out of Washington with his family by a stolen election for 'mean tweets'. The fraud family residing is the White House are protected and this Afghanistan debacle is just water off a duck's back no one has to explain. Remember the spin on the killing of four people in an American Embassy by enraged movie critics? I can't wait for the spin on this disaster.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
bad-hair 8/15/2021 10:10:22 AM (No. 879685)
Easy. No more US bucks to be had so the Afghans headed for the hills post haste.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
EJKrausJr 8/15/2021 1:45:03 PM (No. 879903)
The MIC got rich if Afghanistan. Generals were rewarded with corporate positions. Someone wasn't straight with the American people. Will there be a commission to find out what went wrong? Doubt it.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
stablemoney 8/15/2021 2:17:12 PM (No. 879935)
Easy. Those recruits they were training were the Taliban. Why do you think they have not fought?
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
MickTurn 8/15/2021 3:47:48 PM (No. 880041)
Uh, they drove into town with their Toyota pickups loaded with armed men and the Great Afghan Army evaporated...
Next question
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