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Never Trumper Jonah Goldberg: Trump
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Posted By: Boliver, 11/21/2020 11:41:15 PM

Never Trump stalwart Jonah Goldberg published an essay Friday in which he argued that President Donald Trump “is trying to steal an election he clearly and unequivocally lost.”   Goldberg also claimed on Twitter that Trump’s fight to contest the election results proved that he and other critics of the president were right “all along” about his character. (Tweet) In his essay, Goldberg argued:   The president of the United States is trying to steal an election he clearly and unequivocally lost.   Even liberals frame this fact wrong. They keep saying that Trump is undermining the legitimacy of the election. He is certainly doing that.  Correction*

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Jonah, Jonah, Jonah. Where did you lose your way?

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Boliver 11/21/2020 11:43:29 PM (No. 612906)
My sincere apologies, there should be quotes around Goldberg's statement: In his essay, Goldberg argued: "The president of the United States is trying to steal an election he clearly and unequivocally lost..."
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Reply 2 - Posted by: nmanix 11/21/2020 11:46:49 PM (No. 612907)
Jonah, you must have been adopted.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Jesuslover54 11/21/2020 11:47:49 PM (No. 612908)
Another Charles Boyer.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: tlyons1 11/21/2020 11:52:22 PM (No. 612910)
#3... please tell me what the Boyer connection is??
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Reply 5 - Posted by: crashnburn 11/22/2020 12:00:08 AM (No. 612911)
I recently, but before this article, removed my bookmark to his web site, which I am glad I did. I just wonder what took me so long to do it. Jonah might remember that FauxBama pledged to fundamentally transform America. He did some harm, but luckily he was too busy vacationing to do more. Now, he is going to be the power behind Joe Biden's throne, as well as the brains, and expects this to be his third, and probably fourth term to destroy America. And, Jonah, you are playing into FauxBama's hands. On a side note, I haven't heard much from KammieLah lately. I think she was expecting to take over from Joe shortly after his Inauguration. Now, it looks like FauxBama wants to keep Joe in office, so he can play Puppet Master to Slow Joe. And, he doesn't want to have to fight KammieLah for power.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Italiano 11/22/2020 12:31:16 AM (No. 612914)
He's been petulant for a long time now, but this is just....
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Reply 7 - Posted by: leonardo 11/22/2020 12:39:37 AM (No. 612916)
Jews have historically been their own worst enemies ...
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Reply 8 - Posted by: DVC 11/22/2020 12:42:38 AM (No. 612917)
OK, that does it. I will never again bother with ANYTHING that Jonah says, writes or does. Boom.....DONE. Permanently.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: TheLadyNextDoor 11/22/2020 1:00:25 AM (No. 612922)
#5, you said it so well. Those are the exact thoughts I have had. Time will tell if the left can stomach another presidency by Obama.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Vaquero45 11/22/2020 1:02:55 AM (No. 612923)
Jonah Goldberg lives in D.C. There’s something in the water there; over time, it softens your brain and you become a swamp creature. That’s the only reason I can think of to explain what’s happened to him. He got too comfortable with the National Review crowd, going on the post-election cruises, sipping Grand Marnier and smoking Upmann cigars and talking to everybody about how good things are gonna be when people FINALLY listen to them.... When Trump came along, even though he was everything they said they wanted in a Republican president, they were horrified - he wasn’t a Washington politician. They bitched about him for the last five years, and now they’ve effectively become.... liberal Democrats! Jonah Goldberg has become a babbling idiot.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: PChristopher 11/22/2020 1:04:15 AM (No. 612924)
I think I've got a book of Goldberg's around here somewhere that needs throwing out.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Jesse Jenkem 11/22/2020 1:05:11 AM (No. 612927)
Does Jonah Goldberg make money off this site? If yes, it may be time to find a different site.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Newtsche 11/22/2020 1:08:28 AM (No. 612928)
Boyer starred in "Gaslight".
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Reply 14 - Posted by: OhioNick 11/22/2020 1:10:37 AM (No. 612931)
I was thinking earlier today that if Joe Biden had an ounce of integrity, he would step back and call for an independent audit of Dominion. A Democrat with integrity? There used to be quite a few of them. So what happened? Why did they turn against this country and the rule of law?
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Reply 15 - Posted by: gramma b 11/22/2020 1:20:01 AM (No. 612937)
Oh, Jonah. To think I used to be a fan.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter 11/22/2020 1:27:49 AM (No. 612939)
Al Gore, on the other hand...now there was a man of REAL character. Right, Jonah? At this point, anyone of sound mind with a lick of common sense who refuses to acknowledge the possibility of ballot fraud and that there needs to be a time-out is either a hopeless Kool Aid drinker or flat-out liar.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Italiano 11/22/2020 1:28:17 AM (No. 612940)
These Never Trump conservatives are convinced that they are the Smartest People in the Room. Ignore his performance and his results, and focus on...what, exactly? The merits of a Biden/Harris Administration? They are either trying to justify themselves (it isn't working), or there is in fact an Alternate Reality out there to which we do not have access. Thank God. Note to the GOP. We aren't coming back. You broke it. You own it. Ciao.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: LadyHen 11/22/2020 1:39:24 AM (No. 612942)
Jonah and all the collaborators are no better than Vichy. They sold their souls for the fickle adulation of their progressive coworkers. They traded their integrity and honor for a seat at the tail end of the Beltway Cool Kids Table. “For Washington? Why Jonah, it profit a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world. . . but for Washington!” (with apologies to Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons)
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Reply 19 - Posted by: GoodDeal 11/22/2020 1:40:20 AM (No. 612943)
You mom must be ashamed and embarrassed.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: mindsport 11/22/2020 1:46:18 AM (No. 612945)
Haha, “Trump trying to steal the election”, must be a sure sign he is winning.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: EJKrausJr 11/22/2020 2:01:33 AM (No. 612948)
Jonah has been swallowed by the Never Trump Whale. Give President Trump a chance to prove his case about the systemic fraud that existed in the six battleground states. If he can't prove it to the Judicial Branch then China Joe is the next President, and you can hope to your lucky stars that CJ won't sell us out to Xi Jinping. Until then please keep quiet.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: NotaBene 11/22/2020 2:35:34 AM (No. 612953)
Jonah, the election was stolen from Trump. I hope what you are paid will be enough to replace the dignity you lost. President Donald J Trump is the greatest since Lincoln and Churchill. I hope you do not have a 401k.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: chumley 11/22/2020 3:19:25 AM (No. 612957)
Before his descent into madness, I used to enjoy reading Jonah. Not anymore. Never again. We've seen the depths he can go, all while maintaining the smug superiority of an elite who looks down on the masses from his oh so wise perch. If we dont start obeying our betters theres going to be trouble.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Catherine 11/22/2020 3:21:47 AM (No. 612958)
I wonder if Lucianne dropped him on his head when he was a baby. Hasn't he done enough damage to his mother's site, and rest assured his ugliness does affect this site.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: Amanoftwistsandturns 11/22/2020 3:36:53 AM (No. 612960)
He is another reason I quit watching Fox.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: anniebc 11/22/2020 5:56:59 AM (No. 612975)
And Biden, Jonah? Have you been paying attention? President Trump "clearly and unequivocally lost"? You can't be serious, dude.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: Toby Ten Bears 11/22/2020 6:48:36 AM (No. 612988)
Jonah is an oxygen thief.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Words have Meaning 11/22/2020 7:37:25 AM (No. 613015)
Hey Jonah, your mother Lucianne, is mad...mad...mad...and wants you to shut the hell up.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: thelmalou 11/22/2020 7:51:45 AM (No. 613025)
First, kudos to site admin for leaving this article up...I wasn't sure they would. Second, Jonah is the one NeverTrumper who absolutely broke my heart. I'm mildly sad about a few others, but I was gutted by Jonah's intransigent stance against President Trump in light of his remarkable accomplishments. I had so hoped he would follow in the footsteps of the great Victor Davis Hanson and be persuaded to change his mind, but it was not to be. Third, PDT hasn't yet been proven beyond reasonable doubt to have lost this election clearly and convincingly.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: udanja99 11/22/2020 8:13:08 AM (No. 613050)
Jonah obviously never reads his mother’s website.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: Quigley 11/22/2020 9:00:53 AM (No. 613105)
How does he have access to such hidden knowledge? Just like the steele dossier, why have spies and the NSA when steele’s sources had absolute knowldege of putin’s inner thoughts and highest level schems? Jonah can go on the witness stand. For every criminal and civil prosecution, he can just pronounce how it is.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: Edgelady 11/22/2020 9:04:28 AM (No. 613111)
This makes me sad. Jonah, 20 years ago, basically introduced me to conservatism and what it was about. He had a column at National Review Online called The Corner in which he eloquently wrote about events do the day, the Fair Jessica, and his beloved dog Cosmo. It was good and he was funny. Later I discovered this forum was run by his Mom. I’ve noticed that pretty much all of NRO and former NRO writers dislike Trump. While I most certainly can’t speak for them, I’ll admit to being puzzled by their reactions because it appears to me it’s borne from Trump not following classic conservative thoughts. And maybe not comporting himself is classical conservative ways - stiff upper lip, gentlemanly, shrug your shoulders if things don’t go your way and quietly walk off - all the while wishing someone would fight back, but making denials to such claptrap that came from the media would be bad, would acknowledge them/crap, and would be unseemingly. I’d gladly listen to other views, as long as there’s no “yelling”. And now Trump has led for almost four years, and many - including Mark Levin and Rush, leading conservative commentators - have stated that Trump has been even more conservative in his leadership than Reagan! Gasp! And the guys of NR and former NR continue with their purism, their want of “pure conservativism. They’d rather have that than an America that’s fighting socialism and a President who’s fighting for us. Jonah is wrong, this was an election that was corrupt in those 4-6 states, President Trump is right to fight this - it’s not a couple of hanging chads as in Florida - this was massive thievery and should not go vigorously unchallenged. I applaud Lucianne for doing the right thing and permitting opposing views be posted. I will not be unkind to her and her son - never.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: Cindiana 11/22/2020 9:21:11 AM (No. 613133)
Ms. Lucianne was, and continues to be, a quiet and brave force for truth, bravery, and steadiness. She has, at great cost, given us a harbor of sanity and friendship. I'd guess that most of us are enduring sadness (and worse) in being torn between love and loathing: love for our older children whom we raised to honor, appreciate, and revel in the glory of our FREEDOM, and loathing for the behavior they now display having so stupidly aligned with those who sing the sirens' song of socialism. As we each walk that tightrope, I hope that we remember one major difference between us and Ms. L: our problems aren't being played out publicly. I, for one, will not add salt to her wounds. She is a giant among us, and we owe her mightily. She does not walk away, although some days it must be very tempting. Wishing her and her family peace this season...
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Reply 34 - Posted by: Italiano 11/22/2020 10:35:41 AM (No. 613247)
I remember back when I was a Jonah fan, I read a piece that he wrote claiming that the Tribulation (see the Book of Revelation) had already occurred (or was continuing) and that the Antichrist had been (I believe) Emperor Diocletian. Some of my details may be off, and I apologize for those lapses in memory, but my general reaction was that this was borderline insanity by any rational standard. He also sided with the discredited buffoon Mueller. A lesser transgression, certainly, but also unworthy of consideration or respect.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: Strike3 11/22/2020 10:38:34 AM (No. 613251)
For many of these people, it seems as if they have had a computer program loaded into their brains that eliminates independent thought. If you don't like Donald Trump, everything he does is bad and everything Barack Obama ever did (precious little) is brilliant and good. There are no exceptions. Even Melania is considered a ragmuffin compared to the classy and beautiful Michelle. Maybe these brain-manipulated folks can be reprogrammed like the psychiatrists thought they could do with former cult members because it is indeed a cult of stupidity.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: doctorfixit 11/22/2020 1:44:24 PM (No. 613388)
National Repukes are void
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Reply 37 - Posted by: Annie Xango 11/22/2020 5:35:45 PM (No. 613539)
Holiday family dinners must be pretty interesting !!!!!
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Reply 38 - Posted by: Hermoine 11/22/2020 9:06:07 PM (No. 613698)
You know, I often wonder what Andrew Breitbart would think of the last four years and I think he would absolutely LOVE Trump. He was really good friends with Jonah -- remember Jonah choking up when he was being interviewed about Andrew the day after he died. I just don't understand how the NeverTrumpers believe WHAT they believe and then hate Trump?! I understand not liking his style but as a results-oriented person, what more could you ask for?
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LOS ANGELES—Fox Corp’s Fox Business Network has canceled “Lou Dobbs Tonight,” a weekday program hosted by the business journalist, the company said on Friday. News of the cancellation came one day after Dobbs, 75, was named as a defendant in a defamation lawsuit filed by voting machine maker Smartmatic, which argued that three Fox hosts including Dobbs falsely accused the company of helping to rig the election against President Donald Trump. Fox said the move to end Dobbs’ show had been in the works before the lawsuit as part of a revamp following the November 2020 presidential election in which Republican Trump was defeated by Democrat Joe Biden.
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