Lancaster protesters held on
whopping $1 million bail each after
alleged riots
Fox News,
by
Lisa Eustachewich
Original Article
Posted By: JunkYardDog,
9/15/2020 3:42:37 PM
A Pennsylvania judge threw the book at several protesters – setting their bail at $1 million each – for allegedly rioting in the wake of the police shooting of a knife-wielding Lancaster man. Lancaster police nabbed a dozen people and one juvenile for staging the riots around 3 a.m. Monday in clashes that culminated in police deploying tear gas at the crowd.
The overnight violence came on the heels of the death of Ricardo Munoz, the mentally ill 27-year-old who was seen on body cam footage charging at a cop with a knife in hand. The officer shot and killed Munoz Sunday afternoon outside his mother’s house in downtown Lancaster.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
czechlist 9/15/2020 3:55:53 PM (No. 541739)
Will not withstand an 8th Amendment challenge.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
snowoutlaw 9/15/2020 4:03:09 PM (No. 541752)
Actually about right for the crimes they are charged, arson, riot, institutional vandalism and criminal conspiracy. Arson is the same as attempted murder.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
MrDeplorable 9/15/2020 4:12:54 PM (No. 541764)
Gee, thanks #1, we've all been wondering about that. It's so good to have Constitutional scholars on here.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
JunkYardDog 9/15/2020 4:21:33 PM (No. 541772)
Re #1
Yes it will. This isn't a jaywalking or speeding ticket, this is rioting.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
mc squared 9/15/2020 4:24:02 PM (No. 541773)
They couldn't post bail, so for the time being, they stay in jail. They are a menace among the public.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
JHHolliday 9/15/2020 4:26:39 PM (No. 541775)
It wasn't that long ago in Georgia when arson of an occupied building could get you the death penalty whether anybody died or not. The law was passed after a spate of revenge arsons hit certain areas of the state. People would get mad at their neighbors and burn them out.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
marbles 9/15/2020 4:29:33 PM (No. 541779)
Who's to say what's excessive? Does rioting merit the amount? Ask the people whose business's were damaged.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
DVC 9/15/2020 4:33:59 PM (No. 541785)
Terrorists and arsonists are NOT "protesters".
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
rabblerouser 9/15/2020 4:39:13 PM (No. 541790)
#1 Excessive bail prohibitions only apply at the Federal level, not the State.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
DVC 9/15/2020 5:30:32 PM (No. 541846)
Not uncommon for serious crimes to have bail at this level. Bail is a guarantee of appearance. They are setting it high enough to be certain that either A) they DO appear or B) it will be worth the while of a bounty hunter to hunt them down and drag them back to the court. The "medics" (color me skeptical as hell) are likely from out of town, and paid instigators who will disappear and do it again elsewhere if the bail is too low.
IMO, when out of town folks travel to cause violence and mayhem, they need a very large bail to make sure that they come back for trial. But.....I'm not a lawyer, maybe the leftist pukes have wrecked this, too.
Arson is not a minor crme, IMO, not a lot different than attempted murder. Arson frequently kills.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Elljay 9/15/2020 5:50:42 PM (No. 541858)
As a lawyer, let me set #1 straight. The 8th Amendment relates to cruel and unusual punishment. Bail is not punishment; it is to set a sufficient financial incentive for the accused to show up at trial. Indeed, in cases where there is substantial flight risk, it is not unconstitutional to allow for no bail. Requiring a bail of $1 million may functionally be the same as no bail, but so what? To think these people charged with multiple felonies that could jail them for the rest of their lives pose no substantial risk of flight is laughable. And, who knows, George Soros or Kamala Harris’s staff may yet post bail for these pukes the way they have for rioters in Portland.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
BigGeorgeTX 9/15/2020 6:05:25 PM (No. 541867)
Alleged riots? Fox has definitely sold out.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
bad-hair 9/15/2020 6:27:49 PM (No. 541894)
Nothing like a month in the Crowbar hotel to rethink your OWN STUPIDITY.
Think Trump will walk away with PA in the bag. MAGA
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
NorthernDog 9/15/2020 6:43:04 PM (No. 541923)
But Yoshua Dwayne Montague has such a nice smile in his mugshot. He'll probably show up in a Biden commercial as soon as they spring him from jail.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
lakerman1 9/15/2020 7:06:26 PM (No. 541949)
fYI, in Pennsylvania, the 'magisterial court judge' is what used to be called a 'Justice of the Peace' and does not have to be an attorney.
It is an elected office, and to run, you need no qualifications, but if you win, and you are not an attorney, you have to take a three month course at a tiny failing college in Pa, propped up by the Pa legislature, and you have to pass a State exam.
That process usually works, although sometimes there are absolute clowns, and sometimes crooks, elected.
In this case, the magistrate done good.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Strike3 9/15/2020 7:33:20 PM (No. 541965)
They look like the cast from a remake of Deliverance.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
padiva 9/15/2020 10:19:55 PM (No. 542059)
I listened to about 10 seconds of the news reader.
The locals call it LANK-as-ter. The reader called it Lan-CAS-ter.
The news reader said that Lancaster was near Amish Country. WRONG! All of Lancaster and Lancaster County are Amish (and Mennonite) areas. T
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
red1066 9/15/2020 11:00:32 PM (No. 542087)
It's LANKISTER in Pa. It's LAN CASTER Ohio, or California. I remind people all the time #17.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
XCenturion 9/16/2020 3:14:57 AM (No. 542210)
If you to punish these reprobates force them to wear a mask while they're in custody. Poster #1 must be one of those people at these "protests" with ACLU Observer prominently displayed on the back of his/her jacket. Like those two women were "medics". C'mon man!
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
bldrrepub 9/16/2020 2:33:43 PM (No. 542780)
Section 14 of the Penna Constitution:
§ 14. Prisoners to be bailable; habeas corpus.
All prisoners shall be bailable by sufficient sureties,
unless for capital offenses or for offenses for which the
maximum sentence is life imprisonment or unless no condition or
combination of conditions other than imprisonment will
reasonably assure the safety of any person and the community
when the proof is evident or presumption great; and the
privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended,
unless when in case of rebellion or invasion the public safety
may require it.
There is definitely a public safety issue.
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