Post New Article

Coronavirus: wearing a cloth face mask is
less about science and more about solidarity

Original Article

Posted By: NorthernDog, 5/21/2020 2:52:58 PM

Recent headlines suggest that mask wearing has become a signal of political allegiance, with the left choosing to wear masks and the right refusing to. Yet COVID-19 affects people of all political persuasions who, like it or not, share similar biological susceptibility to this disruptive disease. This is not to say that social factors are not relevant. Early reports trying to understand why ethnicity seems to be a factor have indicated that access to medical care, different living arrangements, work environments and even outdoor spaces make a huge difference to people’s experience and sometimes survival in this pandemic. But there

Comments:

It's like the AIDS ribbons. Wearing them meant you cared. But no one was actually helped.

Post Reply

Reply 1 - Posted by: Geoman 5/21/2020 2:55:52 PM (No. 417976)
Submission signaling should be avoided by free people.
28 people like this.

Reply 2 - Posted by: DVC 5/21/2020 2:57:35 PM (No. 417978)
It is mostly about showing that you are properly cowed by your masters, that you will submit to their overlording. I get that, and that is a lot of why I won't wear one.
28 people like this.

Reply 3 - Posted by: planetgeo 5/21/2020 3:04:59 PM (No. 417983)
I accept only the following as scientifically sound reasons for wearing a mask within 6ft of others while INDOORS: 1) If you already have the virus, this will reduce the probability that your coughing/sneezing/speaking/singing will spread your viral matter to others near you. 2) If you don't have the virus, but others in close proximity to you do, the mask may reduce the total viral load that you might inhale, but it may still allow some viral matter to be inhaled, and the amount inhaled depends greatly on the quality and state of condition of the materials that make up the mask. OUTDOORS your chance of inhaling viral matter are near zero in all but extreme closeness.
11 people like this.

Reply 4 - Posted by: chumley 5/21/2020 3:12:40 PM (No. 417992)
Its nothing but a binky to make scared people feel better. When my grandkids were little and scared of monsters in the room at bedtime, I would give them a toy gun in case the monsters should show up. Worked every time. A mask is the same.
17 people like this.

Reply 5 - Posted by: stevendm 5/21/2020 3:25:58 PM (No. 418001)
I was agreeing until the very end. Half of the masks people are wearing perform no medical function. They just make the wearer feel safer. I stopped reading when they continued by saying making people "feel" good is beneficial. Nope, just smoke and mirrors.
16 people like this.

Reply 6 - Posted by: snowoutlaw 5/21/2020 3:26:36 PM (No. 418002)
Wrong, the purpose is to remind people they need to be scared and the fake media's scare stories must be true.
19 people like this.

Reply 7 - Posted by: MickTurn 5/21/2020 3:34:34 PM (No. 418008)
It is just plain STUPID and protects NO ONE. Might as well have a KKK hood on, only it's bigger.
12 people like this.

Reply 8 - Posted by: LanceLink1 5/21/2020 3:36:30 PM (No. 418009)
I refuse to wear a face diaper. I mute any and all "we are in this together" mantra conditioning on the telly as well as the "we are doing this for you during these difficult times" advertising. They're just making a buck on the back of a contrived panic. I'm not drinking the Kool-Aid.
20 people like this.

Reply 9 - Posted by: HotRod 5/21/2020 3:41:54 PM (No. 418014)
I think democrat women should wear those Muslim Burquas when they go out in public. Maximum virtue signaling, while providing maximum coverage to block any strange virus floating around. We wouldn't have to look at their faces either!
10 people like this.

Reply 10 - Posted by: MDConservative 5/21/2020 3:50:46 PM (No. 418026)
Just back from Post Office. Of about 20 people in line, only two of us were bare. Tell me this is winding down. I don't see it.
10 people like this.

Reply 11 - Posted by: Lawsy0 5/21/2020 3:53:46 PM (No. 418027)
The mask doesn't not prevent COVID-19 from entering your body nor from leaving your body. It is an issue of compliance. I choose when and where and for whom I comply. The list is not very long. It is much better for me, elderly as I am, to not keep breathing my own germs.
9 people like this.

Reply 12 - Posted by: EQKimball 5/21/2020 3:56:04 PM (No. 418029)
By the time they are no longer mandated, liberals will still wear them as a sign of political correctness and solidarity with the left. Masks will be the equivalent of MAGA hats for progressives. In some parts of the country they already are.
15 people like this.

Reply 13 - Posted by: Toby Ten Bears 5/21/2020 3:57:24 PM (No. 418031)
No... It's about being submissive, "good" little sheep.
14 people like this.

Reply 14 - Posted by: BarryNo 5/21/2020 4:23:35 PM (No. 418051)
A mask of any type is today's security blanket, and nothing else.
8 people like this.

Reply 15 - Posted by: BarryNo 5/21/2020 4:24:33 PM (No. 418052)
And, some people have to wear them by company decree or look elsewhere for work.
9 people like this.

Reply 16 - Posted by: woodenleg 5/21/2020 4:28:43 PM (No. 418054)
It's more about advertising your submission and conformity.
12 people like this.

Reply 17 - Posted by: Jesuslover54 5/21/2020 4:44:36 PM (No. 418067)
The smallest and n95 mask can filter is .3 microns in the virus.is .125 microns so the mask does what?
10 people like this.

Reply 18 - Posted by: mc squared 5/21/2020 5:00:27 PM (No. 418082)
Nazi armbands.
9 people like this.

Reply 19 - Posted by: ladydawgfan 5/21/2020 5:12:41 PM (No. 418093)
Those that believe that a mask can contain or prevent the passage of the Kung Flu virus also must believe that underpants can contain the essence of a fart!!
8 people like this.

Reply 20 - Posted by: Vesicant 5/21/2020 5:35:42 PM (No. 418120)
Yahoo news. Now there's an oxymoron.
7 people like this.

Reply 21 - Posted by: checkmatekingtwo 5/21/2020 5:45:24 PM (No. 418126)
I am amazed that Yahoo News actually carried this and admits it's all just for show. I bet they pull the article soon. They're not supposed to admit the truth.
8 people like this.

Reply 22 - Posted by: udanja99 5/21/2020 6:25:37 PM (No. 418148)
I’ve worn a mask twice - the first time when I was helping to care for my newborn grandson and had to go to the supermarket and the second time when my GP forced me to for my annual physical. As another Ldotter stated last week - wearing a mask to avoid this virus is like putting up a chain link fence to keep mosquitos out of your yard.
10 people like this.

Reply 23 - Posted by: globalwarmer 5/21/2020 9:24:29 PM (No. 418263)
I don't and won't.
1 person likes this.

Reply 24 - Posted by: cheeflo 5/21/2020 9:40:45 PM (No. 418271)
Solidarity? I don't think so. It's about fear and obedience. We're told incessantly that we're all in this together, yet there is a concerted effort to drive us apart through social distancing. How much solidarity can be had when we're being characterized as an existential threat to each other?
2 people like this.

Reply 25 - Posted by: red1066 5/21/2020 10:07:02 PM (No. 418296)
Wearing a mask is a pretty much useless. Of course if your already sick, then a mask will stop some droplets from going into the air. However, every mask other than a N-95 mask isn't going to stop virus molecules, but how many people are wearing a N-95 masks everywhere. N-95 masks aren't meant to be worn for long periods of time.
0 people like this.

Reply 26 - Posted by: texaspast 5/21/2020 11:41:58 PM (No. 418349)
We are being required to wear a mask (of any type - just so it's a mask) at my place of work. People for some reason get irritated when I call it my face diaper. I saw a meme on the internet that says 'wearing a cloth mask to keep out viruses is like putting up a chain-link fence to keep out mosquitoes.'
0 people like this.

Reply 27 - Posted by: kono 5/22/2020 12:49:48 AM (No. 418388)
I wish the O.P.'s remark section here had a 'Like' option.
1 person likes this.

Below, you will find ...
Most Recent Articles posted by "NorthernDog"
and
Most Active Articles (last 48 hours)
Most Recent Articles posted by NorthernDog"
Biden tells Charlamagne Tha God: If you
don't support me 'then you ain't black'
12 replies
Posted by NorthernDog 5/22/2020 12:52:40 PM Post Reply
Former Vice President Joe Biden defended his record on race to Charlamagne Tha God on the popular radio show "The Breakfast Club" on Friday, at one point telling the host that if you support President Trump “then you ain’t black.” An aide tried to cut off the interview after 11 minutes because Jill Biden needed the office to do her own livestreamed event, but Biden agreed to stay on longer. After 18 minutes, the aide interjected again, leading Charlamagne to say jokingly: “You can’t do that to black media.” “I do that to white media and black media because my
Woman 'knocked to the ground and
injured' by bison at Yellowstone, two
days after national park's reopening
18 replies
Posted by NorthernDog 5/21/2020 10:01:00 PM Post Reply
A tourist got too close to a bison at Yellowstone National Park. Again. On Wednesday, two days into the park's reopening, a woman was "knocked to the ground and injured by a bison in the Old Faithful Upper Geyser Basin after approaching the animal too closely," officials said. Visitors are advised to stay 25 yards away from large animals, including bison. The woman refused to be transported to a medical facility and the incident remains under investigation, park officials said in a news release. Prior to the Yellowstone's reopening this week, the park had been closed since March 24 amid
California hospitals saw sharp drop in
heart attacks during COVID-19 shutdown
18 replies
Posted by NorthernDog 5/21/2020 4:05:36 PM Post Reply
SACRAMENTO, Calif. — For years it’s been one of the leading causes of death, a critical condition plaguing nearly every corner of the country. Every hour, seven people die from heart disease in the state but since the new coronavirus pandemic, some Northern California hospitals are admitting fewer heart attack patients than before. The trend, an unexpected byproduct of COVID-19, is one of the main findings in a new study by researchers at Kaiser Permanente who measured the change in hospital admissions for heart attacks.The results, published as a research letter in the New England Journal of Medicine, show that
Scientists give a cautious green light for Americans
to go outside — with important caveats
23 replies
Posted by NorthernDog 5/21/2020 3:59:39 PM Post Reply
With Memorial Day approaching, beaches are reopening. Cities are letting restaurants seat people outside and closing streets to encourage foot traffic. Many parks are also letting people back in. Stay-at-home orders have been eased in many cities across the United States this week just as temperatures are warming up for the holiday weekend. And many of the changes have a distinct feature: they allow for outdoor activities. These developments come as growing scientific consensus around the spread of the coronavirus has given the OK for people to be outdoors but with some very important caveats.Still, they’re balanced by concern that
Coronavirus: wearing a cloth face mask is
less about science and more about solidarity
27 replies
Posted by NorthernDog 5/21/2020 2:52:58 PM Post Reply
Recent headlines suggest that mask wearing has become a signal of political allegiance, with the left choosing to wear masks and the right refusing to. Yet COVID-19 affects people of all political persuasions who, like it or not, share similar biological susceptibility to this disruptive disease. This is not to say that social factors are not relevant. Early reports trying to understand why ethnicity seems to be a factor have indicated that access to medical care, different living arrangements, work environments and even outdoor spaces make a huge difference to people’s experience and sometimes survival in this pandemic. But there
Michigan unemployment rate topped
22% in April, likely an all-time high
7 replies
Posted by NorthernDog 5/20/2020 8:26:54 PM Post Reply
Michigan's jobless rate topped 22% in April, the state said Wednesday, likely an all-time high for the state, as widespread layoffs continued in the month as a result of the coronavirus pandemic. Nearly 1.05 million unemployment claims were filed in Michigan in April, also an all-time high, according to the Michigan Department of Technology, Management and Budget. The previous peak was 725,000 claims in June 2009 during the recession, the department said. “April’s historic unemployment rate and job declines reflected the first full month of the COVID-19 pandemic’s impact on the state’s labor market,” Jason Palmer, director of the Bureau
Study: Washington ranks among
states with most restrictions
still in place due to coronavirus
5 replies
Posted by NorthernDog 5/20/2020 8:22:09 PM Post Reply
Washington is taking a gradual approach to its reopening, using data and a series of metrics to determine when to move forward and continue easing restrictions. But the approach differs from that of many other states across the country. According to a new study from WalletHub, Washington ranks among the top 10 states with the most restrictions still in place due to the novel coronavirus. To rank the states, WalletHub looked at 11 factors, including the status of shelter in place orders and restrictions on large gatherings and travel. The study also looked at whether nonessential businesses, including restaurants and
Scientists propose a 50 days on, 30 days
off coronavirus lockdown strategy
31 replies
Posted by NorthernDog 5/19/2020 9:13:37 PM Post Reply
Fifty days of strict lockdowns followed by 30 days where measures are eased could be an effective strategy for reducing Covid-19 deaths while ensuring some level of economic protection, scientists claim. In an EU-backed study published on Wednesday, a cohort of researchers from nine countries simulated how various lockdown strategies would impact the spread of the coronavirus. There have been almost 5 million cases of Covid-19 confirmed globally, with over 300,000 deaths from the virus worldwide, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. Many governments have imposed some form of lockdown to mitigate transmission of the virus. But policymakers
'Ultimate slap in the face’: Restaurant
owners in disbelief as Massachusetts
avoids providing details for industry
to reopen amid coronavirus pandemic
16 replies
Posted by NorthernDog 5/19/2020 2:09:09 PM Post Reply
The words from Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker on Monday were meant to offer some hope for small business owners as he spoke of reopening industries within the state. For restaurant owners, it was what he failed to mention that evaporated any reason to hope. As restaurants continue to withstand revenue losses of more than 75% over the last two months amid the coronavirus pandemic, Monday’s plan revealed little new information to guide the industry forward. “I don’t want to sound like a Debbie Downer but there’s not enough cash, you can’t borrow enough money,” co-owner of Bay State Brewing Company
Pier 1 Imports to close all
540 stores after 58 years
24 replies
Posted by NorthernDog 5/19/2020 1:59:56 PM Post Reply
Pier 1 Imports is calling it quits. The bankrupt home-goods retailer has asked a court for permission to liquidate its remaining 540 stores once they reopen after coronavirus-driven lockdowns, ending a 58-year legacy of selling glassware, wicker furniture and other home decor. Pier 1 said it is in talks with several prospective buyers to sell its remaining assets, including its intellectual property and e-commerce business, during a court-supervised auction on July 15. The company has tapped Gordon Brothers to begin liquidating its locations this weekend across the US, according to court documents. “It is now clear that Pier 1’s future
Poll: Biden ‘struggling’ in New York
with whites, youth, suburbanites
4 replies
Posted by NorthernDog 5/18/2020 1:29:35 PM Post Reply
New York should be a “softball” for former Vice President Joe Biden to hit out of the park, but he is struggling with key groups, according to a new Zogby Poll. While his favorable rating is better than President Trump’s, 52%-41%, the survey showed that the Democrat hasn’t rallied key voting groups like Gov. Andrew Cuomo, the most popular politician in the state, has. As for Trump, his approval rating in the state that hosts the headquarters of his corporation is better than that of New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The New York based
They survived ventilators, body aches,
fever. Now, coronavirus survivors
say states shouldn't be reopening
39 replies
Posted by NorthernDog 5/18/2020 1:03:30 PM Post Reply
AUSTIN, Texas -- Ron Wilkins endured 37 days on a ventilator, a failed kidney, medical paralysis and a mountain of medical bills. As he slowly recovers from a near-death bout of COVID-19, the disease brought on by the coronavirus, at an acute-care hospital near San Antonio, Wilkins and his loved ones now face a new worry: States pushing to reopen stores and local economies. (Snip) The debate over how fast states should reignite their economies flared last week when Dr. Rick Bright, a government immunologist, told a Congressional committee that the window is closing fast to prevent the “darkest winter
Most Active Articles (last 48 hours)
FBI Director Wray opens internal
review into how bureau handled
Michael Flynn case
44 replies
Posted by Ida Lou Pino 5/22/2020 5:22:20 PM Post Reply
The FBI announced Friday that Director Chris Wray has ordered an internal review of the handling of the bureau’s investigation into former national security adviser Michael Flynn, which will include examining whether current FBI employees "engaged in misconduct." “FBI Director Christopher Wray today ordered the Bureau’s Inspection Division to conduct an after-action review of the Michael Flynn investigation,” the bureau said in a statement. The review will be handled by the bureau’s Inspection Division, the FBI said. That division is similar to an internal affairs office in a police department.
Who Believes the Lockdowns
Were About Science?
38 replies
Posted by Garnet 5/22/2020 4:55:10 AM Post Reply
Every state and local politician who imposed lockdowns pursuant to the COVID-19 pandemic claimed their decisions were based on “the science.” In reality, they ignored the advice of leading epidemiologists, relying instead on statistical models produced by “experts” with histories of wildly inaccurate projections. The most notorious of these oracles was, of course, Neil Ferguson of Imperial College London, who claimed that coronavirus could kill 2.2 million Americans. Based on such apocalyptic predictions, combined with overcautious warnings from Beltway bureaucrats like Dr. Anthony Fauci, all but a few governors implemented economically destructive stay-at-home orders — despite the reservations of respected epidemiologists who questioned the logic of lockdowns from the beginning.
Mark Cuban’s mindless critique of President Trump 36 replies
Posted by Pluperfect 5/22/2020 4:45:55 AM Post Reply
In an era when American politics is dominated by obnoxious loud mouths, it’s not surprising that Mark Cuban thinks he should have a big role. Cuban deems himself presidential timber, and has not ruled out running for president in 2024. Last night Cuban went on Sean Hannity’s program to question President Trump’s leadership. Cuban told Hannity: He can’t be blaming the victim all the — you know, Sean, this is what really bothers me about the president. He’s the most powerful man in the world and he always plays the victim card. ‘The Dems are out to get me, the media is out to get me.’
'That was not what the vice president said': Sheila Jackson Lee denies Biden meant 'you ain't black' comment 35 replies
Posted by Imright 5/22/2020 9:20:50 PM Post Reply
Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee threw her support behind former Vice President Joe Biden after he said black people who don't vote for him aren't actually black. During an interview with Fox News host Bret Baier, the Texas Democrat pushed back on the claim that Biden made a major gaffe when he told The Breakfast Club host Charlamagne Tha God on Friday morning that "if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black.""That was not what the vice president said in terms of those words, and if we had listened to the earlier conversation, we would know that the vice president wants to
Why Didn’t the FBI
Record the Flynn Interview?
33 replies
Posted by Judy W. 5/22/2020 5:41:49 AM Post Reply
There are so many angles to the FBI-Michael Flynn imbroglio, and most have been covered in great depth across a divergent set of viewpoints. But one aspect that has not been covered, and that opens up a wider lens into FBI policy, is the fact that the FBI refuses to audiotape, much less videotape, interviews of witnesses or suspects such as Flynn. That policy is counterproductive and makes no sense in 2020. The FBI needs to take itself out of the J. Edgar Hoover era and align itself with modern law enforcement best practices.
The Nation Columnist Defends Joe Biden
From Tara Reade: ‘I Would Vote For Joe
Biden If He Boiled Babies And Ate Them
32 replies
Posted by Imright 5/22/2020 1:40:01 PM Post Reply
A columnist for The Nation defended 2020 presidential candidate Joe Biden from allegations of sexual assault by his former senate staffer Tara Reade, saying, “I would vote for Joe Biden if he boiled babies and ate them.”Columnist Katha Pollitt would vote for Joe Biden even if she believed Reade’s allegations of sexual assault, she wrote in her Wednesday column. “Fortunately, I don’t have to sacrifice morality to political necessity,” she wrote.Reade has accused Biden of kissing her, touching her, and penetrating her without her consent in 1993 when she worked for him as a senate staffe
Governor Whitmer extends Michigan's stay-home order to June 12 28 replies
Posted by MSUDoc 5/22/2020 6:11:30 PM Post Reply
Governor Gretchen Whitmer has signed another Executive Order extending Michigan’s stay-home order until June 12. “While the data shows that we are making progress, we are not out of the woods yet. If we’re going to lower the chance of a second wave and continue to protect our neighbors and loved ones from the spread of this virus, we must continue to do our part by staying safer at home,” said Governor Whitmer. “If we open too soon, thousands more could die and our hospitals will get overwhelmed.”
Joe Biden Regrets ‘You Ain’t Black’
Comment: ‘I Shouldn’t Have Been
Such a Wise Guy’
25 replies
Posted by Imright 5/22/2020 6:34:29 PM Post Reply
Former Vice President Joe Biden expressed regret Friday for decreeing that African-Americans aren’t really black if they have trouble deciding to support him over President Donald Trump, saying he’s “never” taken the black community’s vote for granted and “shouldn’t have been such a wise guy.”“I should not have been so cavalier. I’ve never, never, ever taken the African American community for granted,” Biden said during a call with black business leaders, according to CBS News reporter Ed O’Keefe.“I shouldn’t have been such a wise guy,” he added.”I shouldn’t have been so cavalier. No one should have to vote for any party based on their race, their religion, their background.”
Watch: Biden: ‘If You Have A Problem
Figuring Out Whether You’re For Me
Or Trump, Then You Ain’t Black’
25 replies
Posted by Imright 5/22/2020 10:42:06 AM Post Reply
During an at-times tense interview with popular African-American commentator and radio host Charlamagne the God on Friday, presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden defended his record on racial issues and declared when told that the host had “more questions” for him, “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”The interview, which aired on “The Breakfast Club” Friday, began with the host telling Biden bluntly, “You know, I’ve been critical of you.”“I know you have,” Biden interjected before Charlamagne could finish hi
Biden asks Amy Klobuchar to undergo
vetting as possible running mate
24 replies
Posted by voxpopuli 5/22/2020 11:17:51 AM Post Reply
Senator Amy Klobuchar, Democrat of Minnesota, has been asked by Joe Biden to undergo a formal vetting to be considered as his vice presidential running mate, one of several potential contenders now being scrutinized by his aides ahead of a final decision, according to people familiar with the moves. In an interview with Stephen Colbert on Thursday night, Biden said "no one's been vetted yet by the team" but confirmed the initial preliminary outreach to gauge interest is "coming to an end now." Biden said the "invasive" vetting process will soon begin.
‘Insulting, demeaning, racist’: Biden steps in
it bigtime when he says ‘you ain’t black’ if you
consider vote for Trump
23 replies
Posted by ladydawgfan 5/22/2020 1:26:25 PM Post Reply
During a radio show interview Thursday, presumptive Democrat presidential nominee Joe Biden told a black radio host that he “ain’t black” if he’s still mulling over who to vote for in the upcoming 2020 general election. The stunning remarks triggered outrage from a spate of black Americans already disgusted by the Democrat Party taking their votes for granted. The remarks were made during the tail end of Biden’s interview with Charlamagne tha God, the co-host of the “The Breakfast Club” radio show. Listen (disable your adblocker if the video doesn’t appear): [video] The clip above began with the former VP’s aide telling Charlamagne, “That’s really our time. I apologize.”
Fauci says extended stay-home orders
could cause ‘irreparable damage’
22 replies
Posted by Harlowe 5/23/2020 12:47:14 AM Post Reply
Stay-home orders that extend too long could cause the U.S. “irreparable damage,” Dr. Anthony Fauci warned Friday. Strict crackdowns on large gatherings and other orders, such as for home quarantines, were needed when the coronavirus first hit the nation, but those rules can now begin to be lifted in many parts of the country, Fauci said during an interview on CNBC. “I don’t want people to think that any of us feel that staying locked down for a prolonged period of time is the way to go,” the member of the White House coronavirus task force said.
Post New Article