In four U.S. state prisons, nearly
3,300 inmates test positive for
coronavirus -- 96% without symptoms
Reuters,
by
Linda So
&
Grant Smith
Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog,
4/26/2020 12:07:59 PM
When the first cases of the new coronavirus surfaced in Ohio’s prisons, the director in charge felt like she was fighting a ghost. “We weren’t always able to pinpoint where all the cases were coming from,” said Annette Chambers-Smith, director of the Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Correction. As the virus spread, they began mass testing. They started with the Marion Correctional Institution, which houses 2,500 prisoners in north central Ohio, many of them older with pre-existing health conditions. After testing 2,300 inmates for the coronavirus, they were shocked. Of the 2,028 who tested positive, close to 95% had no
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Bur Oak 4/26/2020 12:17:09 PM (No. 392214)
So why the big lockdown? Angry yet?
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
bgarrett 4/26/2020 12:19:06 PM (No. 392218)
If 95% test positive but arent sick, it sounds like the test is worthless
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
earlybird 4/26/2020 12:25:10 PM (No. 392227)
This could inadvertently provide one of the most interesting studies...
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
shalimar 4/26/2020 12:26:37 PM (No. 392228)
This shows the downside of widespread testing.
Our governor, for example, won't lift restrictions until we have 14 days of declining cases. But if you ramp up testing to include the asymptomatic, you are likely to get a climbing case rate. This inflates the actual problem and prolongs the lockdown.
Hospitalizations would probably be a better metric.
Did I mention our governor graduated from medical school?
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
bpl40 4/26/2020 12:36:09 PM (No. 392241)
At this rate, healthy people under 60, i.e. those that run the economy, are going to have a net incremental death rate of around 1 or 2 per TEN thousand or 15/16 thousand out of the entire work force max.. We have been had.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Lazyman 4/26/2020 12:37:26 PM (No. 392243)
Testing, testing, testing. Test everyone but remember you have to test everyone every day because a negative today doesn't mean you are negative tomorrow.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
planetgeo 4/26/2020 12:42:10 PM (No. 392248)
On the contrary, #2 and #4, this inadvertently (as #3 surmises) confirms the utter foolishness or perversity of the general lockdowns AND the prison releases. Namely, it shows that this virus is NOT particularly deadly for the general population, and that most people will get it with no significant symptoms.
Furthermore, it actually shows that letting it propagate naturally through the general population is both a prudent and wise course because it will safely and quickly develop the desired "herd immunity." By unnecessarily stretching out the duration of that propagation, those states that continue to extend the lockdowns may NOT develop herd immunity and may therefore have a much more serious situation next fall/winter.
But then again, that may be the blue state strategy. Gives them a good excuse to go "Lockdown 2.0" right about election time.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
LadyHen 4/26/2020 12:52:32 PM (No. 392260)
Hard numbers from captive populations whose every action and interaction are monitored.
60+% of these prison populations are testing positive and of those 95+% are asymptomatic with minimal death numbers, statistically fewer than the yearly flu.
As many of us said, this has been here far longer than we first assumed and is way more widespread.... and with little to no effect on most people.
No more lockdown!!
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
lakerman1 4/26/2020 1:10:48 PM (No. 392282)
the Kung Flu virus is a novel corona, much like the virus that causes the common cold.
I haven't worked in a medical lab for about 60 years, but I would bet that there are lots of false positives with those tests. Distinguishing between novel corona and corona would be difficult.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
DVC 4/26/2020 1:20:16 PM (No. 392289)
I'm not at all convinced that the tests are not also detecting other corona viruses, like the common cold.
Rushed tests ....what are the odds of failure of specificity, and cross-reaction with another corona virus.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
BarryNo 4/26/2020 1:22:01 PM (No. 392293)
To me, the problem here is Reuters.
Notice they claim we are a nation with the largest prison population. Just because other nations call their prisons, insane asylums, doesn't make it so. After some of the obvious bull in the body of the piece, it makes me question whether the whole thing is fantasy. Sorry. Can't trust the source.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Strike3 4/26/2020 2:11:09 PM (No. 392319)
The overreaction to this virus is similar in ratio to having one shark attack in Australia causing the governors in our beach states to ban surfing for three months. Our "leaders" acted out of a combination of panic and realizing how much the economic crash could hurt Donald Trump. I say "could" because that part is just wishful thinking on their part and will result in even better ratings for the President.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Zarin 4/26/2020 2:15:03 PM (No. 392324)
Yes #12 - I stopped reading right there - largest # of people in prison??? Try China with at least 2 Million Uygher muslims in concentration camps among other. It seems that the US went at this exactly backwards - tho' - I could kind of OK the 2 week slow down - to get the hospitals in gear. Six weeks is way too long - I fear an economic crash. People are castigating Gov. Kemp of Georgia for opening up. Look at Sweden - most of their deaths in the ghettos and no go zones run by the criminal immigrant gangs. Otherwise they are open - old folks are just being extra careful. Their elementary schools are open - the HS & colleges closed. Businesses have not closed. We have been fooled by the Statists that we never have to face any sort of risk - that the government should protect us from stubbing our toes etc.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 4/26/2020 3:41:59 PM (No. 392398)
COVID 19 deaths where people were never tested. Confirmed COVID19 cases with no symptoms.
Its an election year folks, and Trump's enemies will sacrifice everything around them just to get him out of office. We're the ones being sacrificed people.
Had enough?
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
whyyeseyec 4/26/2020 3:42:09 PM (No. 392399)
The fact that they are already quarantined is a good thing.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
sw penn 4/26/2020 3:50:35 PM (No. 392405)
This has been the greatest "leader" caused economic disaster in history.
But, it won't end until they figure out how it's trump's fault.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Venturer 4/26/2020 4:00:50 PM (No. 392414)
I don't have much faith in that test./
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
RuckusTom 4/26/2020 4:34:04 PM (No. 392443)
Set Them All Free! Ahhh !!!!! Do it for ... the children !
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
kono 4/26/2020 4:43:17 PM (No. 392446)
And yesterday CNN and NPR repeated the WHO report that people who recovered from the virus are not immune to being infected again... (although, admittedly, none of the three has much credibility around here)
Sounds to me like these tests are producing a lot of false positives -- that way fewer than 3,300 of these inmates were really infected by covid-19, and many of those who tested positive for coronavirus antibodies had antibodies from one of the several other kinds of coronavirus (ergo, hadn't actually had covid-19, yet).
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
DVC 4/26/2020 7:39:32 PM (No. 392550)
You can bet that we will be told in a month or three that "the early antibody tests" did not have proper specificity and were giving a lot of false positives.
I'll bet money on it.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
judy 4/27/2020 3:06:36 AM (No. 392784)
Make sure the 96% stay in jail like the rest of us are required to stay in our homes.
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More proof that tons of people have been exposed to the virus but are not getting sick.