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Why I’m Not Upset with Mitt Romney

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Posted By: Toledo, 2/7/2020 10:02:41 AM

Before you crucify me for not condemning “the traitor,” please hear me out. My position has nothing to do with whether I agree with Romney’s “guilty” vote on the first article of impeachment. And it has nothing to do with whether I believe he is a true conservative. Or even a loyal Republican for that matter. It has to do with something far deeper. Are you willing to hear me out? I’m quite aware of the litany of charges against Mitt Romney’s past political record and business dealings (see here and here and here and here).

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In other words, let's move on.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Flyball Dogs 2/7/2020 10:09:57 AM (No. 310771)
I think I agree with Mr Brown’s conclusion, since Monsier Delecto is persona non grata. At least to me.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Bur Oak 2/7/2020 10:10:00 AM (No. 310772)
Michael I heard you out. You're wrong.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Safari Man 2/7/2020 10:15:15 AM (No. 310779)
The only reason I can see for Romney's actions are at complete odds with his being religious, which he is hiding behind. I believe he is corrupt and has an ulterior motive. Perhaps we'll find out before too long, although it does appear that people on his side of the aisle seem to get away with whatever they are doing and never pay the price.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: john56 2/7/2020 10:15:59 AM (No. 310780)
I've come to expect anytime Mitt Romney slaps me on the back to feel around for the knife. At least with folks like Schiff, Nadler, and Pelosi, you know you are dealing with the enemy. And they may be the most "honest" of all. Guys like Romney, who will say one thing to you and do another are the lowest creeps around.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: bamapreacher 2/7/2020 10:17:08 AM (No. 310783)
Too bad his god didn't tell Romney that it was all a pack of lies. Voting your conscience while being gullible is no excuse.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: rockytop 2/7/2020 10:18:52 AM (No. 310784)
Not one Democrat voted for acquittal of a sham case. That says everything. Just based on that fact alone, Romney should have voted with his party, IMHO.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: sydney727 2/7/2020 10:22:19 AM (No. 310789)
Sorry, can't agree with this author. I believe Romney is very very afraid of what could come out about his own corruption (Ukraine, etc.) Just sayin'
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Reply 8 - Posted by: zephyrgirl 2/7/2020 10:23:08 AM (No. 310791)
Maybe Mitt wanted to "leverage" his vote for some perks and was upset when nothing was offered because he wasn't needed. Maybe he's sending a message to McConnell that he can't be taken for granted in the future for close votes. Who knows what is going on in Mitt's mind. He certainly isn't lacking for self-righteousness that rivals that of Jim Comey. That alone makes me wary of him. Lots of bad things are done by people convinced of their moral purity.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: MDConservative 2/7/2020 10:26:56 AM (No. 310799)
Righteous Mitt is plainly opening his third-party campaign for President. He is a stalking horse for the UNIPARTY, his mission is to attract enough "moderate Republican" votes to deny PDT electoral victory in key states. Only 70,000 votes separated victory from Hillary as President in 2016. Among the problems the UNIPARTY will encounter include a radical Dem nominee, an embarrassingly inept Democrat party, a strong economy, a reviving America, and a counterpunching President. In short, the Dems got nothin'. For that reason, like all the earlier plans, this, too, may fail before it gets off the ground. Watch for more trashing to drive down PDT's numbers...
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Quigley 2/7/2020 10:31:04 AM (No. 310803)
If there were evidence sufficient to convict, or if it were a crime for a President to ask for formal assistance of a foreign government, then there would be room for soul searching. What he was soul searching about was whether getting Trump for a noncrime was worth it to him; he obviously decided on vengeance, not his own political well being.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: stablemoney 2/7/2020 10:34:32 AM (No. 310807)
Stab your friends in the back, you soon find you have no friends.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 2/7/2020 10:43:06 AM (No. 310822)
Michael, I wasn't privy to Pierre's conversation with God. Just wondering my conversation with God had a different outcome? I'm not good with the hint that he is better than me because he is more religious than me.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: ToryWhite 2/7/2020 10:44:47 AM (No. 310823)
Stupid article. Romney's faith is a feint in this. It is far more likely about Burisma. And Romney looks very scared.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Sunhan65 2/7/2020 10:48:25 AM (No. 310831)
What an idiot. I forced my way through this article thinking there might be some fact or principle or new idea. Instead, I was subjected to counter-factual unprincipled idiocy such as "it is not up to you or me to pass judgment on why he (or anyone else) did what he did. We can categorically differ with his decisions. But we cannot judge his motivations." Since when? It is exactly we who must judge Romney. By becoming a politician and a public figure, Romney has invited our judgment. We are citizens who must hold him accountable for the harm he has done this country. And motivations are everything when Romney makes false moral claims to exonerate decisions that are destructive to our republic. Let me save some time and put rest of the author's "argument" on the autopsy table: "I take Mitt Romney at his word." I don't. Mitt Romney is a proven liar. Romney has consistently misrepresented his public record, and his so-called severe beliefs, in the service of a self-aggrandizing, narcissistic political agenda. "[W]e cannot judge his motivations." Then "we" shouldn't be writing articles about political decisions that are being justified on the basis of moral motivations. "[D]o you believe his private meetings with journalists and broadcasters and his talks with other senators were all an act and a sham?" Yes. "[A]re you that sure that he was so consumed by bitterness towards Trump that he used this as a lasting 'gotcha' moment?" Yes. That is exactly what I believe. Invoking God to justify small-minded political treachery is, itself, despicable. Mitt Romney is despicable. The kindest thing I can say about him at this point is that Romney has lied to us for so long, he may now be lying to himself and believing it. We don't have to believe it. And I don't.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: DVC 2/7/2020 10:48:35 AM (No. 310832)
I'm sorry, I do not believe Romney at all. How can he vote that there is no need for further witnesses since the case is so weak, and then vote that the President should be removed? Irreconcilable votes. And there is nothing to the Dems' charges, clearly, if you just read the transcript. I think that Romney is a petty, vindictive, hateful man who has been "slighted" by Trump (in his view) and took another opportunity to politically stab Trump in the back. He has diminished himself, and shown what a worthless political traitor he is. I hope he is permanently destroyed, politically.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: buckeye1 2/7/2020 10:52:23 AM (No. 310837)
I'm in agreement with Brown. The question was not Romney but Collins, Murkowski and Alexander who voted for the president albeit reluctantly. If any of those people sided with Mitch that would be something to be upset over. Mitt tends conservative/moderate and is wishy washy on issues such as abortion. He is our replacement for Mc Cain who was a master at disingenuous political talk. He is a insufferable clown who sanctimoniously wraps himself in his religion. But toss him out? No. Let the people of Utah toss him
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Jeremiah29_11 2/7/2020 10:53:29 AM (No. 310839)
I spent a lot of years in Strategic Air Command (SAC). The Commander-in-Chief, (I think a 3 star General but could have been 4) CINCSAC had a motto...”To error is human. Forgive divine. Neither of which is CINCSAC policy.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: JunkYardDog 2/7/2020 10:54:05 AM (No. 310840)
Mr. Brown, I'm afraid you are quite naive. Romney is LYING when he says he wrestled with his faith. He is an opportunist, always sailing his boat in whatever directing the prevailing winds of fortune are blowing. I know a liar when I see one and Romney is a LIAR.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: ARKfamily 2/7/2020 10:56:04 AM (No. 310843)
Okay, I read your article Michael Brown and I will give you credit for some of what you said. I still think Mitt Romney has a God problem as do all of the Democrats. If you are willing to stand with the Democrat party, who is trying to take God out of society, I think you have a God problem. You must not think much of God if you are so willing to take Him out of society. Let me make another point. If a mom who has children believes in abortion, mom must not think much of children or maybe her own children. As I said before, Democrats concern me a lot. Wisdom comes only from God and if you belong to the party that is trying to take Him out of society, I question your leadership. More than likely, your leadership is about leaning on your own understanding of things rather than His.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: southernboy 2/7/2020 11:03:15 AM (No. 310853)
How very broadminded of you, Michael!
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Reply 21 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 2/7/2020 11:04:51 AM (No. 310857)
Rummey IS entitled to vote his "conscience" and we can never truly know his motives. Nor can we truly know the validity of his "struggles". Rummey is also accountable for the decisions he makes. Rummey has the record of coming down on the wrong side of many issues, often the dem side. If he was a good man of conscience, he should declare himself a dem and have done with it. Of course he probably wouldn't have been elected Senator from Utah if he had done that and it is inconceivable that he doesn't know that. So he pushed aside his "conscience" to run as a Republican. Pretty convenient. Also, his "conscience" has the odor of Comey's "higher loyalty". I am better, more enlightened, than you. There are many fine, Republican church going, men of conscience in the Congress. NONE of them felt morally challenged by the circumstances to vote guilty. Rummey's vote and his explanation says that HE is better, of a deeper faith, than ALL the rest of them. Just a bit of arrogance there. It doesn't sit well on the shoulders of an man of faith. If Rummey truly thinks his faith informed his conscience in his decision, I STRONGLY question his ability to make such decisions. Again, he has a record of such "decisions". I wouldn't challenge his right to use his faith to make a decision. I will challenge the nature of his faith to come to continual wrong decisions and his implied notion that his faith is "better" than all the other Republicans. Personal faith is NOT unassailable. A decision based on individual "conscience" is not unassailable. Many people make choices based on these touchstones and are shown to be grievously wrong. Rummey is trying to use these touchstones to put himself above the fray. I deny him his right to do so.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: happywarrior 2/7/2020 11:07:22 AM (No. 310860)
I've been trying to find out how the Never Trumper Mitt fans on this board feel about him now and I guess "let's move on" is the answer.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: WhamDBambam 2/7/2020 11:13:23 AM (No. 310869)
Michael, you're not upset because you're gullible.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: qr4j 2/7/2020 11:14:57 AM (No. 310871)
I am not buying this article's premise that we don't know what is in Pierre Delecto's heart, so we shouldn't judge him. Pierre Delecto HIMSELF judged what was in Mr. Trump's heart. Pierre Delecto decided that Mr. Trump tried to interfere with an election -- that Mr. Trump just didn't explain his intentions very well in the telephone call -- that when Mr. Trump said "no quid pro quo" in telephone call, he really meant it. And there was NO evidence of illegal activity. And in America evidence is what we go by. So . . . Pierre Delecto has green-lighted my judging what I believe his motives were in voting against the President. What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander! That knife Pierre Delecto used to stab Mr. Trump cuts both ways!
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Reply 25 - Posted by: gop_guys 2/7/2020 11:15:46 AM (No. 310873)
I’ve been in the Christian church all my life. I’ve known people who used to hide behind the “G_d told me” stuff. It’s like how can you argue with G_d, right? Once, during lead of ushers and greeters at my church, a woman said she wanted to see Pastor as she had a Prophetic word for the congregation. Pastor said, the Lord failed to tell me...so she didn’t speak. This is how I feel about Romney. He sided with the liars, cheaters, and those who bore false witness against President Trump. So no Mr Brown, Romney will never be vindicated!
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Reply 26 - Posted by: BarryNo 2/7/2020 11:16:49 AM (No. 310878)
Michael, he's a finger-licking, check-the-breeze political animal who tries to take cover under his 'faith' when he makes a selfish self-serving decision that people call him on. Its hypocrisy at the least, and God only knows if it is worse.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: JackBurton 2/7/2020 11:17:09 AM (No. 310879)
There were no crimes committed by the president. He was denied the right to confront his accuser. His legal representation was curtailed as was his right to have his defenders call witnesses. They didn't even have a full House vote to begin the investigation... Pelosi abused her position to delegate that to a committee. Voting against impeachment was the principled, intelligent, informed and right thing to do. Romney showed himself to be dumb. Stupid. i can tolerate that in a DMV employee. As a Senator, such a person can do too much damage. I'm upset.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Lagniappe 2/7/2020 11:17:46 AM (No. 310882)
A long excuse for Romney's actions that was really a example of pure hate for everything Trump!
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Reply 29 - Posted by: Jennie C. 2/7/2020 11:19:55 AM (No. 310888)
And what is behind Mitt's belief that Trump was trying to meddle in the 2020 election? I don't believe Biden was a candidate when the phone call was made, had he announced?
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Reply 30 - Posted by: Periwinkel 2/7/2020 11:20:25 AM (No. 310891)
Pierre Delecto is the new John McCain. Look for him to try to stick to President Trump every chance Pierre gets. Prepare for six/seven more years depending how you count Pierre's remaining term.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: Heraclitus 2/7/2020 11:35:29 AM (No. 310908)
According to McConnell, Pierre has been helpful to him, in terms of being an important vote in the thin Republican majority. He has been helping get conservative judges on the bench all over the place. Absolutely critical to saving the Nation from further degradation of our Constitutional order. For this, I will suspend any further condemnatory remarks... as if that matters. But I will hold back that fresh set of barbs I was about to hurl at Mitt OR Pierre. for now
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Reply 32 - Posted by: earlybird 2/7/2020 11:38:24 AM (No. 310911)
His opening turned me off. They need Romney’s Republican vote in the Senate. Other than that… No, I won’t move on.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: Strike3 2/7/2020 11:38:26 AM (No. 310912)
After that pathetic marshmallow introduction, the article doesn't get better. I don't care what Romney's logic was or what his conclusion is. He is dead wrong. He committed political suicide and he is not the only one who has done that in recent history. Hillary Clinton, John McCain, Arlen Specter, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Jeff Flake, all voted their conscience and used twisted and hate-driven logic to do it. We no longer care about any of them. Of the group, some are dead, some don't realize what they did and some won't go away. I'm not upset with Mitt either. All he ever cost me was one wasted vote in 2012.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: earlybird 2/7/2020 11:43:05 AM (No. 310915)
This appears to be Dr. Michael Brown, who has a radio show. Michael L. Brown is a radio host, author, professor and noted proponent of Messianic Judaism, Christian Zionism, and the Charismatic Movement.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: cold porridge 2/7/2020 11:43:05 AM (No. 310916)
"We can categorically differ with his decisions. But we cannot judge his motivations." But that is exactly what Mittens did with President Trump. I don't buy Mitt's "soul searching, religious convictions" any more than I bought Pelosi's stating the impeachment was a "solemn sad occasion." Both were most likely predetermined.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: janjan 2/7/2020 11:43:54 AM (No. 310918)
If people want to believe that this was a religious experience for Romney they are free to do so. I do not. And most liberals are anti-religious unless you are a Muslim so that was certainly not their motivation for falling all over him. And yes, we can judge his actions (without caring about his motives). He is not Joe Blow on the street. He is a US Senator and what he says and does have consequences for the entire country. He voted guilty with a complete lack of evidence and when he knew well that this was an invented political scam to unseat an elected President. So no. He is not forgiven.
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Reply 37 - Posted by: TXknitter 2/7/2020 11:45:49 AM (No. 310922)
Well, #32, McConnell will say that in public. I do not believe for one minute that Mitch trusts Mitt as far as he could throw him. He will tolerate him for his vote but he knows if Utah voters have ANY sense, Mitt will be tossed out.
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Reply 38 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 2/7/2020 11:51:37 AM (No. 310926)
I believe he had sleepless nights. I believe he did what he did for the sake of his children. Biden, Kerry, Pelosi and Romney all had sons collecting their laundered bribes over in the Ukraine.
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Reply 39 - Posted by: Shmowry1 2/7/2020 11:52:21 AM (No. 310928)
Wrong on every level. Mitt Romney took all of the sophistry and propaganda of the left (which he had cozied up to the last couple of years) and cloaked it in his own spirituality. Neither of his explanations were original. They were cookie cutter leftist talking points pushed by the media and elevated to the level of spiritual by someone who prayed about it. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
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Reply 40 - Posted by: Citoyen 2/7/2020 11:56:18 AM (No. 310933)
I agree that one cannot know what is in the mind and heart of Mitt Romney but surely the author can admit that anyone with a brain can examine the evidence and come to the conclusion that Romney's vote to convict was malign, vindictive and personal. Not once has Romney expressed concern, let alone disgust, over the totally partisan way the House conducted the impeachment hearings. No complaints about the how President Trump and the Republicans were denied their witnesses. Romney was silent how the President was denied an effective defense. Prior to that unconstitutional debacle I'm unaware that Romney ever condemned the outrageous conduct of Obama's administration prior and after the Trump/s election. From the moment Romney was seated in the Senate he has consistently condemned the President whenever possible, never has he condemned the atrocious conduct of the Democrats. As to the majority of his Senate votes in support of the president's policies, so what. The evidence is clear that Romney ran for senator to be a thorn in the side of President Trump. He was 71 when he ran as a carpetbagger with great name recognition in Utah. He knew he could never beat Trump in a primary for the 2020 run. On election day of 2024 he will be 77 so any chance of being that year's presidential candidate is nil. His political career ends with him being the junior senator from a small state. The only political effect he has is to be a constant critic of President Trump. Politics is personal. Romney hates Trump. That hatred is why he voted to convict.
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Reply 41 - Posted by: JDPA 2/7/2020 12:01:39 PM (No. 310935)
Apparently, when Pierre prays he is magically enabled to impute - without evidence from a telephone call - criminal motives to the president. The overwhelming actual evidence however, is that Pierre's position on this is consistent with his animus for this president which he has held from the outset. Very convenient indeed. He hid behind Pierre Delecto and is now hiding behind his religion. Ascribing his animus to his religion is disgusting.
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Reply 42 - Posted by: Sandpiper 2/7/2020 12:02:51 PM (No. 310937)
Hey - it’s fine that Mitt followed his conscience in voting against the president. But he justified his decision by his FAITH, which is MY faith, and I haven’t come to the same conclusions AT ALL! By backing up all of his considerations by scripture, hymns, quotes from our church leaders and finally prayer, the implication is that if you are faithful and prayerful his is the correct conclusion. To decide differently then (subtly) implies everyone else is wrong? THAT is infuriating! He doesn’t have the right to justify his decision with my faith! Fine - say you prayed about it and got an answer but don’t drag MY religion into it. And by the way - where were his high principles when Obama was president?
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Reply 43 - Posted by: Vaquero45 2/7/2020 12:03:53 PM (No. 310938)
Memo to Michael Brown: Shut up, fool.
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Reply 44 - Posted by: Connor 2/7/2020 12:23:19 PM (No. 310965)
This has nothing to do with religion. He is consumed with burning hate for Trump. Trump humiliated him when he wanted to be Secretary of State. He said Mitt wanted the job so bad he would get down on his knees if he told him to.
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Reply 45 - Posted by: Philipsonh 2/7/2020 12:38:26 PM (No. 310998)
The author needs to look at what Romney SAYS about climate change and how he lives his life, with multiple mansions, cars, planes, etc. Romney is the ultimate hypocrite and sore loser. He HATES.
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Reply 46 - Posted by: Smart11344 2/7/2020 12:38:41 PM (No. 310999)
I wonder is the LDS (Mormons) are proud of this clown. Is he paying the 10% tithe the Mormon Church requires?
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Reply 47 - Posted by: clayusmcret 2/7/2020 12:45:05 PM (No. 311005)
That pregnant pause he took while he was reading his decision to vote against Trump wasn't emotion catching up with him. It was him thinking, "Am I really going to do this? Am I going to run a spike through my own head with this vote? Do I hate Trump that much? Rats!! I can't back out. I already gave Chris Wallace the interview saying I was voting to convict Trump. Wallace will crucify me with that video. Oh well. In for a penny, in for a pound." And Pierre Delecto hiding his spiteful, backstabbing decision behind religion was despicable.
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Reply 48 - Posted by: gam 2/7/2020 12:58:52 PM (No. 311030)
That would be B as in Burisma.
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Reply 49 - Posted by: Krause 2/7/2020 1:03:03 PM (No. 311034)
All I have is the transcript, and know that the President of Ukraine said there was no pressure. So, where in the transcript are the 'pressure' words? Did Zelensky lie when he said there was no pressure? Did Zelensky know the aid was on hold, or not?
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Reply 50 - Posted by: kono 2/7/2020 1:15:19 PM (No. 311049)
" We can categorically differ with his decisions. But we cannot judge his motivations." Although most people enjoy the benefit of the doubt on which our "innocent until proven guilty" standard rests, millennia of experience has shown that most politicians' actions flow from political reasoning (or perhaps more directly, from calculation) rather than moral discernment. A cynical view of political decision-making seems more than justified. The reason I'm not upset with Mitt Romney's 'guilty' vote, is that, to me it's just Mitt being Mitt. And by now most people have seen what that means and are not fooled by the political rhetoric
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Reply 51 - Posted by: tom7 2/7/2020 1:29:19 PM (No. 311072)
Michael Brown is disingenuous. Romney lied about the facts, lied about the law, hid behind his very malleable religion, and totally ignored the massive violation of fundamental due process by the House Democrats. He voted for the destruction of our societal value of fair play. For that he needs to be despised, never tolerated, never trusted, and never to wield any sort of power ever again. Michael Brown should stop playing semantic games. This is not some kids' game we are playing here. These arguments and decisions have serious long-term consequences - for our nation, and the whole world's conception of fairness and propriety.
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Reply 52 - Posted by: Sunhan65 2/7/2020 1:32:50 PM (No. 311079)
I wish there was a "Really Like" button on this thread so I could click it for #25 and #36. They hit an essential point dead on. Why are Mitt's motivations exempt from judgement, but President Trump's are not? Assume everything that the hearsay non-witnesses has said is true. So what. Attempting to uncover corruption is a good thing, no matter who does it or why. However, President Trump didn't just have a moral imperative to insist that the Ukraine investige corruption as a condition of U.S. aid; he had a legal obligation to do so. If President Trump had ignored publicly-available statements and evidence just because they involve a potential political rival, he would have been derelict in his duty. And if we apply the author's twisted logic that suffering negative consequences equates to moral motivations, who has suffered more from making that call than the President? The easy political path would have been to look the other and avoid all this. President Trump took the harder road and has been vilified for it. If Mitt Romney were an honest man, he would have recognized that his political adversary had acted correctly here and acquitted him. But he isn't, and he didn't.
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Reply 53 - Posted by: DVC 2/7/2020 1:43:40 PM (No. 311097)
Mitch McConnell said it well, something along the lines of "I am in the business of confirming judges and passing bills in the Senate. I can't afford to be doing things that might feel good now, but would harm my future work in confirming judges and passing bills".. Certainly not an accurate quote, but that is the gist of his comment. And McConnell makes a good point. The judges that Trump is appointing will truly change the playing field for decades, strengthen our Constitution, and make it much easier to keep out country to what the Founding Fathers wanted, and prevent the leftists from wrecking it. We need backstabber Romney's vote to pass judges, so we have to keep him for now, and actually hope that he DOESN'T become a Dem. But we don't have to like him, or trust him. Maybe after November, his vote won't be so important, if we can gain a few Senate seats.
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Reply 54 - Posted by: Moritz55 2/7/2020 2:07:17 PM (No. 311122)
I don’t despise Mitt Romney for what he did. I pity him for letting his antipathy toward President Trump warp his perspective.
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Reply 55 - Posted by: Ketchuplover 2/7/2020 2:15:15 PM (No. 311130)
At any rate, Romney has certainly given the President motivation to investigate his connections to Ukraine.
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Reply 56 - Posted by: Chuzzles 2/7/2020 2:20:22 PM (No. 311134)
Another Romney apologist heard from. Sorry Dude, but this guy is a sleaze and he needs to pay for his betrayals and for wanting to railroad an innocent man based solely on hurt feelz and envy. Even Utah GOP is having regrets. I don't believe I have ever seen them tweet their feelings like that before. Townhall is way too full of cucks and spineless pundits for my taste anymore. Ignoring our feelings on a national level is why you all are not so believed anymore. The reason that both sides of the aisle get away with their misdeeds and actual criminal behavior is because of the squishy cucks and Leftists protecting them. Romney is done, stick a fork in him.
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Reply 57 - Posted by: Hard Nard 2/7/2020 3:04:49 PM (No. 311179)
With the President acquitted the investigation into those at the Burisma trough can be continued. This includes Romneys' son, the sole reason for any of this impeachment nonsense. If allowed to be completed a large number of our politicians and their clan will be behind bars.
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Reply 58 - Posted by: Lucky5 2/7/2020 3:38:55 PM (No. 311212)
He is a dishonest tosser. Would an honest man of made up the ridiculous twitter account like he did?
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Reply 59 - Posted by: ClintW 2/7/2020 5:05:38 PM (No. 311291)
Reaching to the heaven sphere because he is so conflicted on reaching a verdict?? Sounds like reasonable doubt to me. BTW, we are supposed to accept Mitt's true motivation at face value, while he ignores the transcript evidence and Trump's reasoning on Ukraine corruption?
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Reply 60 - Posted by: MickTurn 2/7/2020 8:18:10 PM (No. 311492)
Yea, you're right, Mittens will do a great job cleaning up the Senate Restroom...Wanna Towel?
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Chinese government officials and the World Health Organization are bad-mouthing the Trump administration for trying to stop the coronavirus from invading the United States. Team Trump is barring foreigners who have been in China recently from entering the country. Americans returning from China are quarantined for 14 days. China ­accuses President Trump of arousing fear. WHO claims the president’s policies “unnecessarily interfere with travel and trade.” Don’t fall for this bombast.
Democrats Cling To the Hope
That Trump Is Compromised
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Posted by Toledo 2/11/2020 11:47:08 AM Post Reply
The Democrats are clinging to the inevitable pious fraud that Donald Trump is a compromised president because he was impeached. After a spurious investigation in which the president had none of the constitutionally guaranteed rights of a defendant or the defenses available by precedent to presidents who are the subjects of such investigations, the Democrats charged Mr. Trump with acts that are not impeachable. Then they failed to adduce any evidence that the president had committed the acts with which they charged him.
Let's Stop Calling Them
Never Trump 'Republicans'
10 replies
Posted by Toledo 2/11/2020 9:43:07 AM Post Reply
My various misgivings with the mainstream media and liberal bias are never-ending and well-chronicled. There are cyclical variations on a theme, with some themes cropping up more than others. A recent peeve of mine is the continued use in the political press of the phrase “Never Trump Republicans.” It’s been popping up more often, most recently in the news that “Never Trump Republicans” are trying to defibrillate Crazy Joe the Wonder Veep’s campaign in New Hampshire: Embittered “Never Trump” Republicans tied to former Ohio Gov. John Kasich have secretly schemed to assist Joe Biden’s campaign —
Why Private Speech Doesn't Tell
Us About a Person's Character
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Posted by Toledo 2/11/2020 7:35:01 AM Post Reply
Very few things I have said have elicited as much negative attention as this: What people say in private tells little, if anything, about their character. Left-wing critics have had a field day mocking me (mockery is the left's substitute for argument), but even some religious conservatives have taken issue with me (without the mockery) -- don't I know that it is precisely how we act in private that most clearly reveals our character? This issue, of course, originally arose as a result of what then-reality TV host Donald Trump said in private to then-"Access Hollywood" host
Why I’m Not Upset with Mitt Romney 60 replies
Posted by Toledo 2/7/2020 10:02:41 AM Post Reply
Before you crucify me for not condemning “the traitor,” please hear me out. My position has nothing to do with whether I agree with Romney’s “guilty” vote on the first article of impeachment. And it has nothing to do with whether I believe he is a true conservative. Or even a loyal Republican for that matter. It has to do with something far deeper. Are you willing to hear me out? I’m quite aware of the litany of charges against Mitt Romney’s past political record and business dealings (see here and here and here and here).
Nancy Pelosi’s Midnight Ride 5 replies
Posted by Toledo 2/6/2020 7:46:42 AM Post Reply
The big lie behind the impeachment of President Trump is the notion that the Democrats are better custodians of our national security than the Republicans. It has animated the long campaign to suborn Mr. Trump’s presidency — right up to the the eve of the verdict in the Senate, when Speaker Pelosi, at a press conference, likened herself to Paul Revere, but crying, “the Russians are coming, the Russians are coming.” “The day we were bringing the articles to the floor,” Mrs. Pelosi reminded the press, “I quoted the ‘Midnight Ride of Paul Revere.’” That’s the Henry Wadsworth Longfellow classic in which the Boston
Bad Law 5 replies
Posted by Toledo 2/5/2020 7:44:38 AM Post Reply
A law in South Carolina bans playing pinball if you're under 18. That's just one of America's many ridiculous laws restricting freedom. "There is a role for the government in keeping people safe from actual criminals, people who commit murder, robbery," says Rafael Mangual, a "tough-on-crime" guy at the Manhattan Institute. "But a lot of laws don't keep people safe," he says. "There's a federal prohibition on walking a dog on a leash longer than six feet on federal property. It is a jailable offense."
Wuhan Coronavirus Looks Increasingly
Like a Pandemic, Experts Say
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Posted by Toledo 2/3/2020 6:00:11 AM Post Reply
The Wuhan coronavirus spreading from China is now likely to become a pandemic that circles the globe, according to many of the world’s leading infectious disease experts. The prospect is daunting. A pandemic — an ongoing epidemic on two or more continents — may well have global consequences, despite the extraordinary travel restrictions and quarantines now imposed by China and other countries, including the United States. Scientists do not yet know how lethal the new coronavirus is, however, so there is uncertainty about how much damage a
Alan Dershowitz quits Donald Trump's
impeachment trial after saying the president
CANNOT be removed *
20 replies
Posted by Toledo 1/31/2020 6:18:32 AM Post Reply
Donald Trump's most famous and flamboyant lawyer vanished from his trial Thursday - turning up in Miami to fight back against a tidal wave of criticism for his extraordinary defense that anything a president does to get re-elected is unimpeachable. The Harvard professor surfaced in Florida as other academics and attorneys reacted with astonishment to his position, which he then said he had never actually said. On CNN he told Wolf Blitzer that he had a commitment in the state Thursday and it was difficult to change his flight because the Super Bowl is on this weekend in Miami.
All Eyes On Susan Collins 18 replies
Posted by Toledo 1/30/2020 11:38:16 AM Post Reply
Senator Susan Collins’ speech announcing her vote for Justice Kavanaugh was so memorably principled and well put that her fans — the Sun included — will grant her license to vote however she wants in respect of President Trump. Not that she needs anyone’s license. Yet we don’t mind saying that the principles the senator articulated in the Kavanaugh case beckon in the case of Mr. Trump for an early acquittal. The principal principle Ms. Collins marked in the Kavanaugh case was due process. Here’s how she put it in what we predicted would become famous words:
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Posted by ladydawgfan 2/25/2020 7:46:25 PM Post Reply
Sen. Mitt Romney (R-UT) on Tuesday afternoon criticized the Trump administration’s preparations for the possible spread of the deadly Chinese coronavirus in the United States. “I’m very disappointed in the degree to which we’ve prepared for a pandemic, both in terms of protective equipment and in terms of medical devices that would help people once they are infected,” Romney, a staunch critic of President Donald Trump, told reporters, according to The Hill. “At this stage, I think we are substantially underinvesting in what would be appropriate for a setting which could be serious.” Romney, who serves on the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee,
How Dumb Are America’s College Students? 41 replies
Posted by MissMolly 2/25/2020 4:46:28 AM Post Reply
Heather Mac Donald is one of America’s great heroines. For no reason other than love of her country, Western civilization and common sense, she ventures repeatedly into the bizarre and hostile world of America’s colleges and universities. If students listened to her, they would learn a lot. Alas, most of them are not up to that task. Heather has often been subjected not just to rudeness, but to threats of violence. I can draw on my own experience here. Last year, my youngest daughter invited Heather to give a talk at her college. My wife and I drove Heather down to the college, but before we set out we were told
President Trump Calls on Sotomayor and
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Posted by Imright 2/25/2020 1:24:25 AM Post Reply
President Trump responded from India via Twitter on Tuesday local time to a scathing dissent by Justice Sonia Sotomayor released Friday that accused the conservative majority justices on the Supreme Court of being biased in favor of the Trump administration. Trump called on Sotomayor and her fellow Trump-hating Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to recuse themselves from cases involving or relating to him. (Photo) Trump said, ““Sotomayor accuses GOP appointed Justices of being biased in favor of Trump.” @IngrahamAngle @FoxNews This is a terrible thing to say. Trying to “shame” some into voting her way? She never criticized Justice Ginsberg when she called me a “faker”. Both should recuse themselves……on all Trump,
The Rebranding of Socialism
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Posted by Imright 2/25/2020 5:30:55 AM Post Reply
While it may be true that “A rose by any other name would smell as sweet” (Shakespeare) it is also true that socialism by any other name still smells like socialism. As we approach this year’s elections, the purveyors of socialism have tried to rebrand their product by calling it “democratic socialism.” The sales force and marketing department of democratic socialism, the Democratic Party, and the mainstream media, are plying a new fairy tale that democratic socialism is nothing like socialism. No siree, nothing like it, they sing in chorus. The chorus, however, is badly out of tune. Democratic socialism is not the wonderland of inclusiveness,
Joe Biden to Gun Manufacturers:
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Posted by Imright 2/25/2020 7:09:52 AM Post Reply
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New California bill would require
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Posted by NorthernDog 2/25/2020 2:17:03 PM Post Reply
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Joe Biden Claims A Whopping 150 Million
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Posted by ladydawgfan 2/26/2020 1:28:57 AM Post Reply
Former Vice President Joe Biden made an egregious claim during Tuesday’s Democratic debate, saying that a whopping 150 million people have been killed by guns since 2007. Biden was asked how he would stop gun violence, with the moderator noting that “Congress has not been able to pass a major gun legislation in a quarter of a century.” The former vice president said that he is “the only one who ever got it done nationally” before making the false claim that 150 million people have been killed by guns since 2007. “One hundred fifty million people have been killed since 2007,
'This could be bad': Top CDC doctor
contradicts Trump and warns it's
'not a question of if but WHEN'
coronavirus spreads in America, *
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Posted by Harlowe 2/25/2020 5:20:15 PM Post Reply
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California Teachers Union Wants Kids to
Pursue Gender Transition Without Parental
Consent
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Posted by ladydawgfan 2/26/2020 12:44:58 AM Post Reply
Even in California, you have to be 18 to get a tattoo, 16 to drive a car, 21 to buy a gun, alcohol, or pot. But if you want to change your gender? Well, then, you just have to be 12. And your public school will be more than happy to help. Need an abortion? Tell your teacher. Want to refill your birth control? Go to the school clinic. Thinking about starting hormone treatments? Your parents will never find out. At least, not under the policy the California Teachers Association is pushing. That’s the amazing revelation from last month’s union meeting.
Joe Biden tells crowd ‘I’m a candidate
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Posted by BeatleJeff 2/25/2020 11:41:11 AM Post Reply
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Posted by Ribicon 2/25/2020 11:28:29 AM Post Reply
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Trump Is Betraying the Working Class 22 replies
Posted by gundisalvus 2/25/2020 7:34:28 AM Post Reply
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