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Hatchet-wielding thief backs down
when store clerk pulls out gun
but firearm costs employee his job

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Posted By: JunkYardDog, 5/25/2019 11:27:10 AM

Oregon authorities are seeking a would-be thief who was armed with a hatchet when he tried to rob a convenience store, only to flee when the clerk drew a gun and called 911. However, the clerk's quick thinking cost him his job, with the president of Plaid Pantry in Oak Grove explaining to local station KOIN-TV that the chain has a zero-tolerance policy for weapons.


Does "store policy" trump one's constitutional right to self-defense? Apparently the management is content to allow armed robberies-but what if the thief decides to shoot anyway? It should be illegal for a condition of employment to supercede our Constitutional rights.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: red1066 5/25/2019 11:29:20 AM (No. 84086)
Does the store policy also include carrying a hatchet into the store?
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Reply 2 - Posted by: msjena 5/25/2019 11:31:51 AM (No. 84087)
To answer OP's question, the store policy is valid. The constitutional right only extends to government actions.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: mc squared 5/25/2019 11:37:20 AM (No. 84097)
Poster 2 is correct. I'd bet that the store employee's death wouldn't cost the owner anything, but if the employee shot the armed robber they would be on the hook. Economics.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Gordon Freeman 5/25/2019 11:40:58 AM (No. 84101)
Keep in mind Oregon is rapidly becoming California.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Enoch Powell 5/25/2019 11:42:35 AM (No. 84103)
And the company has a Constitutional right to be stupid.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: MindMadeUp 5/25/2019 11:48:04 AM (No. 84109)
If I should ever to want to rob a convenience store, I'll be sure to pick up my hatchet and head for a Plaid Pantry. However,I will never ever again go to a Paid Pantry if I want to actually buy something here in Oregon
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Proud Texan 5/25/2019 11:48:22 AM (No. 84110)
I wonder if the president of the company enforces that rule when the robber with the hatchet comes after them at their workplace.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Albatross 5/25/2019 11:48:51 AM (No. 84112)
The clerk is better off to be out of this unnecessarily dangerous job. Meanwhile, the president of Plaid Pantry has announced to all armed robbers that his stores are easy pickings.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: EQKimball 5/25/2019 11:50:55 AM (No. 84113)
Well, now all of the crooks know it is safe to rob the Plaid Pantry.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: DVC 5/25/2019 11:53:11 AM (No. 84116)
Stay alive to get a real job. Double win for the employee. Pox on the store owners. If I were in the town, I'd drive a couple extra miles to avoid shopping at their store after this action by management. And I'd call them to tell them about it, too.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: DVC 5/25/2019 11:56:54 AM (No. 84118)
When I was working my way through college, I took a overnight job at a gas station one summer. The second night, a man walked In who lived in the house about half a block away, it was on the edge of town. He told me that he'd be keeping an eye on things because the reason the job was open was that the other clerk had been taken by robbers and killed. I got my handgun and kept it by the register for two more nights and finally quit, deciding that even no job would be better than one where I may have to shoot my way to safety - and might not succeed. Life is all about choices. I never regretted that choice.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Strike3 5/25/2019 12:11:57 PM (No. 84121)
I would ask all Oregonians to please boycott this store but I assume most of you are in tune with this management policy that would rather see a store employee maimed or killed rather than exercise his God-given right to defend himself. I will never enter a Plaid Pantry no matter where it's located.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: FunOne 5/25/2019 12:19:50 PM (No. 84123)
Stories like this sure do amaze the L-dotters in Flyover Country. It reinforces the fact that parts of the good ole USA have devolved into something quite different than the good ole USA. An armed society is a polite society.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Jerseyden 5/25/2019 12:28:56 PM (No. 84131)
An old say goes something like stay quiet and some will think you’re a fool , open your mouth and prove it. How could this company announce to the world that no resistance shall be given when robbery or violence is threatened.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: bad-hair 5/25/2019 12:31:11 PM (No. 84133)
Ship his butt to Texas. I'll hire him and give him a raise.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: dwa 5/25/2019 1:56:27 PM (No. 84162)
Just another example of the Left having zero common sense or reasoning. Leftist policy above all else!
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Calico Al 5/25/2019 2:21:13 PM (No. 84179)
FTA:. He said employees are trained to de-escalate robbery situations to avoid injury. Isn't that what the clerk did ?
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Hermit_Crab 5/25/2019 3:24:32 PM (No. 84198)
Plaid Pantry in Oak Grove explaining to local station KOIN-TV that the chain has a zero-tolerance policy for weapons. Burt on the bright side they have a very high tolerance for customers and staff being assaulted, robbed or murdered.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: JunkYardDog 5/25/2019 3:41:31 PM (No. 84203)
Re #2 & #3 Yes, the store's policy is valid as the law is currently written, but it doesn't make it right. Look at the laws allowing late term abortions-do they seem lawful? No one should be compelled to surrender their safety just to be a cashier at a convenience store, just my humble opinion.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: FTCM 5/25/2019 4:21:44 PM (No. 84224)
Just how stupid can residents of kalifornica and Oredumb become???
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Hermit_Crab 5/25/2019 4:51:24 PM (No. 84234)
"Just how stupid can residents of kalifornica and Oredumb become???" We gotta quit asking that question, #20... Way too many of them are taking it as a CHALLENGE.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: DVC 5/25/2019 5:58:47 PM (No. 84256)
IIRC, Seven-Eleven has the same policy, and has fired clerks for defending themselves. I suspect that there are many smaller chains of convenience stores that have this policy, of course more likely in the NE and Left Coast. My cop friends call them "Stop and Robs" as the generic term for all convenience stores.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Chuzzles 5/25/2019 8:51:25 PM (No. 84315)
Haven't shopped at a PP in nearly 40 years. Glad to see my decision still holds. Companies that prefer their employees to be maimed or killed disgust me thoroughly. Vile people sitting in their Ivory Tower, while the front line people who make them their money face the real risks every day. Rotten company and they need to hear that from the public.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: bighambone 5/25/2019 9:16:37 PM (No. 84319)
That employer is a joke, as if the perpetrator had hit his employee on the head with a hatchet it would cost the employer big bucks.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: padiva 5/25/2019 9:52:04 PM (No. 84325)
Ii work for a big box retailer. The laws favor the shop lifter.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623 5/26/2019 1:03:02 AM (No. 84365)
Could we see the owner ? These are terrible jobs. They should have two employees working at all times. But no, usually the owners are too cheap to even install decent cameras. Everybody has 'rights' except the victim. Wonder how many job offers the guy has had.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: franq 5/26/2019 6:39:15 AM (No. 84454)
When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. If they can be notified, that is.
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