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No, Iran and China Are Not ‘Winning’

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Posted By: 4250Luis, 5/31/2026 8:33:04 AM

For years, much of the American media has operated under a peculiar assumption: that the best way to confront adversaries such as China and Iran is to accommodate them. If the United States applies pressure, the narrative quickly becomes that America is overextended, losing leverage, or somehow empowering its enemies. That narrative has resurfaced during President Donald Trump’s confrontation with Tehran and Beijing. According to outlets such as The New York Times and The Washington Post, both Iran and China are supposedly emerging stronger from the current conflict.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 5/31/2026 2:14:59 PM (No. 2111003)
The reason the media portrays conflicts like this is because it plays to the Left's dubious strengths. Troublesome powers are happy to be accommodated and walk off with pallets of cash and promises that they will behave better. The dems can claim victory. A year later the problems have continued and the media says nothing because they and the dems NEED the win. When Republicans do something to actually solve the problem, it is easy for the irresponsible media to declare it a failure, a quagmire, ... from the beginning. Since such actions NEVER go exactly as planned, it is easy to point out that things are not going as planned. Of COURSE they aren't but the trajectory certainly is and the media will never admit to that. Iran and it's associates have been severely crippled. The only question is how to limit problems going forward. The Islamists are desperate to hang on to power and that means it WILL happen again if they remain in power. The US is not going to force a regime change by military action because it just WILL NOT WORK (taught by the history of our previous attempts). The Iranian people have to want it and make it happen.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: 5 handicap 6/1/2026 5:38:17 AM (No. 2111147)
Does anyone other than the already influenced ever believe anything thy NYT or the WaPo have to say? They lost all credibility decades ago!
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Strike3 6/1/2026 6:49:01 AM (No. 2111172)
Donald Trump has bought us at least twenty years of freedom from danger from Iran. Unfortunately, dictators would rather risk death than give up their power, especially when they are promised 72 virgins if they do happen to get blown up into a red mist. To seal the deal, we need to remove all of them and their war toys and also prevent them from buying more weapons from other countries. As is normal in any endeavor, the job is taking longer than most people want it to take. The Iranian general population needs to be armed or we need to go in ourselves with coalition partners. A toothless Iran is worth the effort. However, I do not like the idea of giving these barbarians cash to rebuild because we all know where that leads.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: varkdriver 6/1/2026 8:40:17 AM (No. 2111257)
This reminds me of the dung I read about the BRICS nations decoupling from the US Dollar and using rupees/rubles/yuan/dong (that last one was my own addition: I've always found the Vietnam unit of currency highly amusing to my 14-year-old level of maturity). The dollar may be less attractive, but I believe the alternatives are even less so
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