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Can We See The End Of The Income Tax From Here?

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Posted By: RockyTCB, 3/3/2026 7:54:57 AM

The federal income tax is abusive. It is inconsistent with liberty. It has, as Chief Justice John Marshall noted, the power to destroy. There is nothing positive to be said about it. It cannot even raise government revenues efficiently. As we said a year ago, of all the good Donald Trump could do in his second term, eliminating the federal income tax would be one of his greatest achievements. It’s clearly one of his goals. “As time goes by, I believe the tariffs paid for by foreign countries will, like in the past, substantially replace the modern-day system of income tax,” Trump said during his State of the Union address.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: bpl40 3/3/2026 9:09:41 AM (No. 2075451)
Decades ago the late Milton Friedman had calculated 17% flat income tax as a replacement for the current system. A sales tax being politically impossible.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: felixcat 3/3/2026 9:10:42 AM (No. 2075452)
No, not while idiot Americans continue to vote for Democrats and some Republicans. We are constantly being scolded that Americans don't save enough and yet, the smallest savings account with the meager amount of earned interest - that interest is reported to the IRS as income. So why bother? You are forced into paying SS taxes along with your employer for your retirement. You save other ways and/or invest in your company's 401k or TSP to supplement your SS as we've been told to do for decades as SS should not be your sole source of retirement. Any yet, you get taxed on your SS once you start withdrawing it along with withdrawals from your 402k or TSP. All to constantly feed the pig troughs known as Medicaid, SNAP, public housing, etc.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: udanja99 3/3/2026 9:25:57 AM (No. 2075457)
Yes, please. I spent yesterday morning doing my taxes and fuming the entire time. I’m fed up with giving bums, thugs and welfare queens money that I could be spending on my own family. And never once has a single one of them said, “Thank you”.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: laurenc 3/3/2026 9:33:19 AM (No. 2075462)
If you think the Dems are having a fit over having to show ID to vote, wait till they hear their biggest weapon over the American people could possibly disappear. Imagine Bernie Sanders setting himself on fire outside of IRS HQ in protest.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: stablemoney 3/3/2026 9:37:18 AM (No. 2075465)
The income tax has effectively made the IRS your 50% partner in any income generating activity you engage in. As such, the IRS can audit your books, make regulations that require you to subsidize your neighbors, or those you have never met. The regulations are so ridiculously complex that even a simple return requires tens of pages, with multiple decision matrixes. Every new administration immediately amends the tax laws to meet their goals, meaning the tax laws change constantly. The best outcome would be the elimination of the income tax, and implementation of Trump's tariff system.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: MindMadeUp 3/3/2026 10:51:17 AM (No. 2075494)
And, given that the government prints more money whenever it feels a whim, why does it need to take money directly from hard-working citizens? Printing money increases inflation, but that's simply a tax spread evenly across the population and requires no paperwork.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: NamVet70 3/3/2026 11:08:02 AM (No. 2075501)
Income taxes discourage domestic production, but tariffs at some level are a tool that can encourage domestic production. Our nations citizens would be much wealthier if the USA had never adopted the income tax.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: mc squared 3/3/2026 11:57:53 AM (No. 2075512)
Not a sales tax but a flat tax. And 18% is quite a bit when added to state and local sales tax. Added to my current 7% tax that's 25%. A $500 TV would be $625. A deal breaker for many people and the economy. Don't even do the math on a new vehicle..
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Reply 9 - Posted by: JimBob 3/3/2026 12:12:26 PM (No. 2075517)
It is my understanding that the Federal government did a reasonable job of living within it's means until Lyin' Lyndon Johnson and the 'Rats introduced the 1965 'Great Society' laws, and so created the present Welfare State. I was 9 years old at the time. I am reminded of the following quote: "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." -Alexis de Tocqueville (1835) Ever since the 'Great Society' was instituted, the Federal government has run bigger and bigger deficits, pumping more and more paper (now digital) money into circulation, and the value of each dollar has become less and less. In 1965, an ounce of gold cost $35. Today, an ounce of gold costs $5,137.80 (I checked, just this minute). If my arithmetic is correct, $1 today is worth $.00681 of a 1965 dollar, or 0.681 of a 1965 penny. The appetite of the Federal government for Other People's Money is insatiable. My Dad, a USMC Staff Sergeant in WWII, long ago taught me that: "A Tax, once Imposed, is Never Repealed, and a Freedom, once Taken Away, is Never Restored." President Trump is pushing the Bureaucracy in the right direction, but things are Waaay over on the wrong side of the financial scale. I do not see the Federal government EVER eliminating the Income Tax. Hell, they can't balance the budget WITH the Income Tax. THIS is one of the several Serious Threats to the US Republic. Too Many people are addicted to getting Other People's Money for Free, with the 'Rats and the Lamestreams constantly pressing for MORE.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: montwoodcliff 3/3/2026 2:09:53 PM (No. 2075545)
I can tell you right now that this will never happen! If the income tax is eliminated, Congress will lose control over our behavior. Think about it. These tax rates that Congress comes up with can make you spend more if they are low and less if they are high. And look at the loop holes Congress writes for big donors. Let’s look at the billionaire tax in California and the same one being proposed by Bernie. Do the math. What is 5% of $1,000,000,000. I’ll do it for you. It’s $50,000,000. That’s 50 million dollars! That’s crazy! That will go nowhere unless the commies take over. I’m off topic—sorry. The income tax is here to stay, and if it should ever go through by some freak of nature, states will keep their’s. Let s just hope we get lower rates.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Kafka2 3/3/2026 2:52:46 PM (No. 2075568)
You have got to be delusional! If there is one truth in the world, it is that most politicians just love, love, LOVE ago spend other-people’s-money and they don’t believe.they can go too far. I do believe that a balanced federal budget is as rare as a unicorn.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: chumley 3/3/2026 2:54:06 PM (No. 2075571)
It would be nice, but the politicians will never surrender their #1 leverage against the citizens. Its very rare for us to get any kind of freedom back, let alone something this big. Its just a distraction from other things and a vehicle for false hope.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: snowoutlaw 3/3/2026 4:13:50 PM (No. 2075585)
Trump usually does what he says so I wouldn't bet against it. As for Americans not saving enough, why should they, a savings plan means putting a small amount of money into a saving or investment account which then earns income and grows over the years. Then you do your income taxes and find out none of that income has been taxed so you owe thousands on April 15th which has to come out of the savings. Might be better to not save and just spend.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: NYbob 3/3/2026 4:42:18 PM (No. 2075590)
Only if there is the mother of Black Swans that destroy our world as we know it. Destruction so bad that the swamp is dried up and blown away. So bad that every living parasite from DC, past and present has to work an actual job to survive. Every poster gets it, but the creeps that steal our earnings and then take a hefty chunk for themselves before giving the rest away, will have to be smacked down to our level. NO more entitlements for people who can't balance a budget or solve one problem without making it worse. It is hard to imagine, but catastrophes happen all the time in history, so the USA could be forced into actual reform. How is DOGE doing these days? As usual, a big part of the solution is doing something, anything, about an evil media that works 24/7 against anything good or noble in this country.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: whyyeseyec 3/3/2026 8:55:43 PM (No. 2075639)
If the income tax were to disappear, whatever amount was collected yearly would just be redistributed to other existing taxes, so we'd be paying the same amount, or more, anyway. Congress would make sure we'd end up paying a higher amount, only there'd be no tax brackets to fall into with respect to adjusted gross income.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Rumblehog 3/4/2026 9:10:40 AM (No. 2075848)
Income Tax Laws have given "meaning" to the otherwise putrid lives of politicians... with the emphasis on, "mean" in meaning. Taxes have had the power to suppress birthrates, stifle innovation, lower productivity, and destroy the American middle class. Taxes are the ultimate in government control over peoples' lives. Taxes never go away, at best they only change names, at worst they increase in oppressive strength.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: JackBurton 3/4/2026 2:35:17 PM (No. 2076008)
As someone who is paying $17,000 to the feds this year, I'd say it does a pretty good job of raising revenues. But maybe that's just me.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Ditto1958 3/4/2026 7:05:48 PM (No. 2076072)
In hindsight it seems as though our ancestors should have seen red flags popping up everywhere when they decided to amend the Constitution to allow an income tax Should be abolished everywhere
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