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Celebrating the End of EVs

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Posted By: ConservativeYankee, 10/8/2025 7:09:40 AM

The $7,500 federal “incentive” dangled as an inducement to move the EV needle has expired. This means EV sales — if you want to use that word to describe a transaction involving the buyer, the seller, and you, the party who is taxed to “help” facilitate it — are likely to slide even farther below the waterline than they already were. This tends to happen when people are obliged to pay full price for a thing that is only tempting to them when it is heavily discounted — like those half-off dented cans of soup you sometimes see on sale at the supermarket.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: mifla 10/8/2025 7:33:31 AM (No. 2014047)
A $7500 coupon on a vehicle that might catch fire while sitting in the garage, and might die on the side of the road if there are no charging stations, is not worth the paper it is written on.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: paral04 10/8/2025 8:29:53 AM (No. 2014095)
EV's have their use if the weather is mild and for local use. They make no sense for long haul rides in very cold climate.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: philsner 10/8/2025 8:55:11 AM (No. 2014112)
No, EVs have no real use other than a novelty one. All of the things we are told EVs "eliminate" are actually increased. "Tesla fuel" must be generated another way, the batteries must be manufactured using toxic chemicals and lead, and gas powered vehicles are much more efficient. EVs are simply a way for leftists to grab power. I hope that opportunity is going away just like the tax credit.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Maggie2u 10/8/2025 9:31:28 AM (No. 2014126)
Glad the $7500 bribe has stopped, I would like to know why the government builds charging stations? They sure didn't build gas stations at taxpayers expense.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: slipstik 10/8/2025 9:43:27 AM (No. 2014134)
Without the subsidy, EV's will become the golf carts they always were.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: felixcat 10/8/2025 9:47:56 AM (No. 2014137)
As far as I know, Ford, and the other first car companies did not receive any subsidies from the US Government (what a quaint notion) - same for the building of gas stations - all done by the gas companies to support the new automobile.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Sunhan65 10/8/2025 9:48:22 AM (No. 2014138)
#2 makes a good point. My own experience is based on plug-in hybrid electric. In other words, there is a gas engine and an electric motor that alternate and cooperate to power the vehicle. The main disadvantage is the complexity and maintenance issues. There's just more to go wrong. However, they avoid the dilemma of running out of power on longer trips. The gas engine just kicks in, and you keep going. The main advantage is, as #2 says, for local short range commuting. My personal average daily use is less than 20 miles, si I've gone months without needing to fill up the gas tank. It can charge off a standard 110 plug overnight, and the cost of kilowatt hours is less than the cost of gasoline per mile. They're also whisper quiet. When you're talking about a Jeep Wrangler whose gas engine sounds like a cement mixer, that's another big plus for city driving. Cold weather climates are, however, because the factory recommendation is to keep the vehicle plugged in while parked whenever the temperature drops below 15 Fahrenheit. You need to plan ahead if you're driving to Minot in February and make sure your hotel has outside plugs. I don't think I would ever buy a full electric because it amplifies the disadvantages of everything above except the complexity. But a plug in gas electric hybrid hasn't been a bad choice for me.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: bpl40 10/8/2025 10:02:43 AM (No. 2014145)
If the weather is mild and the usage is local, a golf cart will suffice. Which is exactly where EV technology stands. The rest is just bells and whistles that cost $75,000. So they take 1% off. If you fall for that, I have a bridge I can sell you.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: DVC 10/8/2025 12:19:16 PM (No. 2014224)
This is very premature. But, let's hope that EVs have to compete in the marketplace without government punishing normal vehicles and subsidizing EVs. Now, stop the whole Government Gas Mileage regulations crapola....ALL of it. If someone wants to own a vehicle that gets 10 mpg, that should be fine with the government folks.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Hazymac 10/8/2025 12:54:59 PM (No. 2014252)
My next door neighbor, with whom I share a carport at four feet elevation in Flood Zone A, parked a Lexus e-car (fully electric) five feet from my car and two feet from two support beams that hold up the top floors. The fire department doesn't fight lithium ion battery fires with water anymore because of toxic smoke. They just let the cars burn at 5,000 degrees F (about three times as hot as a gasoline fire). I have told my neighbor, a new arrival from behind the old Iron Curtain, that these vehicles are a bad idea, even a terrible idea, especially with the ocean a stone's throw away. I wish he would lease an ICE vehicle. We'd all be safer. One year ago today, I was evacuating to Orlando as Hurricane Milton approached Florida's west coast. That one hit 75 miles south of here, but Hurricane Helene on September 26 hit us with a 9-10 foot storm surge--6.9 feet in Tampa--and four and a half feet of water in the driveway. I had four feet of seawater in my foyer. Every car that was left in any carport here floated away and was a total loss. That Category 4 hurricane's eye passed 90 miles offshore. It could have been so much worse. Any e-car that encountered seawater burst into flames, and burned underwater. Many coastal houses were lost to e-car fires. I'd just as soon see them all disappear. There's not nearly enough electricity in the grid to electrify travel and shipping. The political potentates who mandated this (expletive deleted) want to immobilize us. No more get your kicks on Route 66. Not if these Green killjoys get their way.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: JimBob 10/8/2025 2:26:26 PM (No. 2014293)
Also with the end of the $7500 subsidy, I understand it is the end of Billion$ in 'transfer payments' extracted from Ford, Stellantis and Gm, and paid to Tesla and Rivian. Apparently the gas-engine-car makers have been forced to buy some kind of BeeEss 'CAFE Mileage credits' from the electric-car makers each year. This penalizes the gas car makers and their customers, and benefits the electric car makers and their customers. This is thankfully coming to an end. Here's an article with more information on this. link: https://www.carscoops.com/2025/09/detroit-3-win-big-from-trumps-ev-rules-tesla-and-rivian-take-a-hit/
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Reply 12 - Posted by: KTWO 10/8/2025 4:13:40 PM (No. 2014327)
I'll offer my usual EV guesses. For a decade most EV purchases have been Virtue Signals. That worked well for prosperous people and the vehicles were quite useable for many tasks in many neighborhoods. But gradually that "Signal" meant less and less and now, today, it is not even noticed. But don't mistake the current situation with the future. EVs are improving rapidly; battery weight and fire risk declines while range and durability increases. In few years EV propulsion will dominate. But that does not mean buy one now.
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