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We Can’t Debate Our Way Out of This

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Posted By: Christopher L, 9/23/2025 12:25:30 PM

Charlie Kirk died for the same cause that David Horowitz was assaulted for, that Robert Spencer was banned for, and that Ben Shapiro faced bomb threats for: free speech on campus. Charles Murray could be physically assaulted at a college while the perpetrators walked away with a ‘mark’ on their permanent record, the willingness of conservatives to appear on campus was an act of courage. To do it the way that Charlie Kirk did was sheer heroism. There’s no question ... that the majority of campuses, professors and students only became more hostile to free speech since his campaign began.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: DVC 9/23/2025 12:53:01 PM (No. 2007888)
There are two possible ways to make a person or persons do what you wish them to do. One is by persuasion, with words. The other is by force. It appears that many, many on the left have realized that they cannot persuade us to become slaves to their Communist totalitarian system, so they are increasingly switching to force. Killing us is their 'persuasion'. I hope that we can get them to stop this violence by arresting a few dozen or hundred, and go back to the civilized methods of persuasion.....WORDS. But, Clausewitz has said that "War is politics by other means", and it appears that the leftist crazies will INSIST on going to war rather than sticking to politics. I don't want a civil war, but the old military saying is "In your plans, remember that the enemy gets a vote." I can vote for peace, but I'm not the only one voting. May God help us to avoid a civil war, and if we cannot avoid it, to win it quickly with the least possible casualties......because ALL the victims will be Americans.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 9/23/2025 12:57:06 PM (No. 2007891)
Daniel, you are right. It's because brainwashing via SM, the msm, and academia works. I refer to what happened on July 13th last year in Butler PA and what also happened on September 10th in Orem Utah. The left has figured out how to manipulate the human mind.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Starboard_side 9/23/2025 1:29:39 PM (No. 2007903)
It's apparent the Left does not want any other opinion than what they have come to believe. Today's universities are NOT diverse in ideas and opinions, particularly among the faculty and administration. They are only feeding those young minds of mush the same set of information. What Charlie did was heroic and he allowed a diverse group to present their argument to "Prove Me Wrong". Most couldn't as they had weak information and ideas. Couldn't articulate their position.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 9/23/2025 1:50:51 PM (No. 2007911)
And as regards, #1, I sincerely hope you are right.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Msquared112 9/23/2025 3:17:02 PM (No. 2007929)
Comity between right and left is over. We cannot coexist the way things stand, and I am not standing down.
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