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Democrats howling at Texas redistrict
push should take a look in the mirror

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Posted By: FlyRight, 8/6/2025 4:51:02 AM

Let’s take a tour of the 13th congressional district in Illinois. It starts in East St. Louis and then moves steadily north. By the time it gets to Springfield, home of Abraham Lincoln, about 90 miles away, it takes a sharp turn to the east, reaching Decatur and finally Champaign, itself about 80 miles away from Springfield. It’s a jagged, narrow strip of territory with no obvious rhyme or reason as it traverses six counties.It’s less a congressional district than a road trip, and bears a resemblance to the original gerrymander, a long, salamander-like state Senate district in Massachusetts in 1812. The only point of the new 13th district lines,

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Bur Oak 8/6/2025 5:17:03 AM (No. 1987068)
The opposition howls the most about what they themselves do.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: helpme 8/6/2025 5:51:01 AM (No. 1987076)
Can a rule be written that the number of the perimeter of a district be no more than three times the number of the area of the district?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: helpme 8/6/2025 5:55:03 AM (No. 1987078)
#2. This would prevent long skinny districts
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 8/6/2025 7:49:19 AM (No. 1987138)
They need to draw rectangles across all the states. Voting districts should look like the states in the midwest. Maybe Texas needs to adjust their quorum formula to exclude unexcused absences.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: seamusm 8/6/2025 8:34:10 AM (No. 1987165)
My worry is that Texas redistricting will only be matched (or worse) by blue states and we might end up with even fewer GOP reps in Congress.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: crashnburn 8/6/2025 9:07:15 AM (No. 1987188)
#5, if you read the article, both CA and IL are gerrymandered about as much as possible. Probably NY, and the rest of the blue states. IIRC, there are more red than blue states, so the rest of the red states could fight fire with fire and gerrymander out even more DemoRoids. Wouldn't break my heart. I've always heard what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: BarryNo 8/6/2025 11:32:42 AM (No. 1987289)
They have... That's why they're howling! They know exactly what would happen if they were doing it, and they are regretting every second of it! - That they aren't doing it instead of the GOP.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Hazymac 8/6/2025 11:37:19 AM (No. 1987292)
As many observers have said, Democrats in the bluest states have perfected gerrymandering to the point that Republican representation, even in areas with 40% Republicans, can be zero. The Donks are projecting in psychedelic neon. They should ess tee eff yu.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: kono 8/6/2025 12:08:55 PM (No. 1987300)
It's downright nauseating to see how the Lowest common denominator determines ethical standards in the political game It's just a grownups version of a Kindergarten staple -- "In know you are, but what am I?" Barf..
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Reply 10 - Posted by: DVC 8/6/2025 2:06:36 PM (No. 1987346)
I will restate my simple, foolproof mathematically rigorous method for creating electoral district maps. Draw up the district, then calculate the are in square miles, then calculate the perimeter in miles. A bit of trying examples of reasonable shapes will show where to set the permissible ratio of area to perimeter. The horrible gerrymandered districts always have long "necks" with essentially zero width to reach out and capture a distant group of voters. These necks add a lot of perimeter without adding any area, so it should be possible to set a ratio of area to perimeter that forces reasonable geometric shapes on the voting districts by making outlandish shapes illegal, mathematically. I haven't tested this thoroughly, but I think it can work.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: DVC 8/6/2025 2:20:31 PM (No. 1987355)
Re #2, I had a similar idea for years, but three isn't enough. And you have normalize the dimensions so that the short side is set as "one unit" to make the ratios not be distorted by the multiplication process. A square has one unit of area, four of perimeter. Ratio 1:4 A one by four rectangular shape is still pretty reasonable, has an area of four, perimeter of ten, so ratio is 4:10=2.5 A one by twenty rectangular area is not, IMO, reasonable and the area is 20, perimeter is 41, ratio is 20:41 = 2.05. Seeming like going below 2.10 not being permitted may work. It needs more rigor....looking at pathological cases, see what happens with really odd shapes. But, I think that it can work.
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