Backpedaling On Taxpayer-Funded IVF Would
Be A Trump White House Win, Not An ‘L’
The FRwderalist,
by
Jordan Boyd
Original Article
Posted By: earlybird,
8/4/2025 1:36:20 PM
President Donald Trump spent the last few months of his 2024 campaign promising to force taxpayers to foot the bill for a procedure that routinely destroys human life. His plans to pave the way for Americans to make “more babies” by subsidizing in vitro fertilization, however, are allegedly on hold.
The Washington Post reported that as of Sunday, Trump’s White House is allegedly “backing away from proposals discussed internally to mandate IVF coverage for the roughly 50 million people on the Obamacare exchanges.”
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
Timber Queen 8/4/2025 1:57:11 PM (No. 1986523)
No! I do not want my tax dollars to create human beings artificially and then keep thousands, tens or hundreds of thousands of human beings destined to never be born in a deep freeze forever. Unused embryos just sit in storage waiting until their "parents" decide they deserve life, rather than adopt a "stranger". I've heard all the arguments in favor, but IVF proponents never address this issue.
I have a nephew and his wife who went through this procedure. I have a lovely grandniece as the result. They had their "one and done", and their other conceived children just sit in storage unwanted. Who could they be? Conceived, yet set in cold storage for eternity? What happens to them? I've never brought up the subject to my nephew and his wife out of courtesy, and they never mention it.
The womb is the natural place for any and all conceived. Man is playing in an area where he has no authority.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
FormerDem 8/4/2025 2:18:52 PM (No. 1986530)
I don't support IVF, but I understand Trump supports it out of the same quick warmhearted response as why he does the very many things I 100% support. IVF amounts to the idea of spare people in a closet who have no rights and mostly will be put to death - and doing the wrong thing here fortifies wrong ideas about human dignity, even if for the moment those ideas are not spelled out... they will percolate out... and I hope IVF goes away.... , but I am not mad about it either....
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
KTWO 8/4/2025 3:28:25 PM (No. 1986550)
Clarification please; is this about funding procures or facilities for those who say they want to have a baby someday but not soon, or is this about medical techniques to deal with a problem now?
Hard to word this precisely. But why should governments fund what individuals might choose to do someday?
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
msts 8/4/2025 3:56:34 PM (No. 1986558)
We did not freeze embryos. Its a choice. We did freeze eggs and when they were fertilized, were implanted. When we had our children we destroyed any left over eggs.
It was a blessing.
It should not be tax payer funded. Its hard to separate your joy and success and forcing others to pay. Others should not have to pay, not just because its not their responsiblity, but also because once they have to pay, an enormous govt industry grows around it.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Jesuslover54 8/4/2025 4:12:47 PM (No. 1986561)
I remember what happened with the frozen Nobel laureate sperm.
One guy said "Who would want me, I'm short and fat and have high blood pressure?"
In the end the janitor unplugged the freezer to use the vacuum cleaner. Water on floor. End of story.
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Let me get this straight, they took the vaccine and have fertility issues now.
And I should fund an expensive never ending attempt to help them get pregnant?
Not to mention the very high percentage of fetal abnormalities involved in IVF, and the medical expenses that those poor babies will incur.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Miss T 8/4/2025 7:32:35 PM (No. 1986645)
Contrast the highly profitable and highly destructive IVF industry with the medical treatment that restores healthy functioning:
From a link in the Federalist article: https://thefederalist.com/2025/08/04/why-restorative-reproductive-medicine-is-more-pro-woman-than-ivf
Example: My sister-in-law was having trouble conceiving back in the '70s. A U.S. Navy doctor excised her endometriosis lesions, and cleared her fallopian tubes with an inert gas. Within two menstrual cycles, she conceived.
Treating endometriosis diminishes a woman's menstrual pain and improves her general health.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Harlowe 8/5/2025 12:42:14 AM (No. 1986716)
#1~ “Conceived, yet set in cold storage for eternity? What happens to them? ... The womb is the natural place for any and all conceived. Man is playing in an area where he has no authority”. / Thank you, bless you!
Scripture makes clear that life begins at conception as so eloquently expressed by King David in Psalm 139:1-16. God declared His creation as being very good/perfect. Children are a gift from God to a husband and wife, a gift intended to be conceived within the intimate bond of marriage. While no mortal can speak for God, it seems reasonable to assume because life is sacred, that the artificial in vitro process may not be pleasing to Him as well embryos that are suspended/abandoned. To learn that IVF “kills more unborn babies than abortion each year” is astounding, heart-wrenching, sickening. Indeed, it seems, “Man is playing in an area where he has no authority.” Man is tampering with God’s created order--which He declared perfect.
Reflecting on Revelation 6:9-11 about the souls slain “under the altar” for the witness they had borne for the word of God crying out to judge and avenge their blood were given white robes and told to rest a little while longer, it may be that IVF embryos and aborted children perpetrators will be held accountable in God’s own way and time.
It is unfortunate that most of this country’s population will not have access to this very informative article not only for the statistical, political and reality content, but to, possibly/hopefully, generate moral/spiritual consideration as applied to IVF and abortion as well. For example as applied to IVF, it has been written, “Spiritually, infertility is an opportunity to examine one's understanding of the ways of God revealed in the Scriptures. It is a time to examine oneself and one's faith as the willingness to deny self and take up one's cross, rather than taking matters into one's own hands.”
“The grass withers, the flower fades, but the word of our God will stand forever.” (Isaiah 40:8)
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Strike3 8/5/2025 9:00:07 AM (No. 1986786)
Just because the rest of the world is overpopulated does not mean that we need to be.
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