The government's Epstein problem
American Thinker,
by
Nick Lopez
Original Article
Posted By: DW626,
7/9/2025 12:27:12 AM
None of us ever would have heard of Jeffrey Epstein had the government not brought him up. It was the government that brought charges against him. The government told us that he was “the most prolific child sex trafficker in history.” The government said he was “with intelligence.” The government cut him a sweetheart deal. The government was taken to court by “John Doe” over what the government called “client lists.” The government courts made a ruling about the “client lists” not being released. Senator Dick Durbin blocked the release of the “client list” in the legislative branch of the government. The government said it had “client lists” on its desk.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Catherine 7/9/2025 12:37:24 AM (No. 1974799)
The one person I've seen proof of being there many times is Bill Clinton. Back when this all started, they actually showed pictures of the sign in book and Clinton's name was there several times. There was even a story that his Secret Service protection asked to not be sent there with him. Who knows if all this is true. However, I tend to believe it.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
jalo1951 7/9/2025 12:54:04 AM (No. 1974803)
Something does not smell right. So clinical and wrapped up so neatly. Major disappointment. Somebody important is being protected.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
JimBob 7/9/2025 1:16:54 AM (No. 1974813)
I'm with #2.
I believe we have a good Director, but there's still a lot of Rot in the organization.
It sounds to me like someone -or several 'someones'- with 'pull' in the right places did not want the evidence made public, and successfully had it 'disappeared'.
I seem to recall, several months ago, a story where the FIBbers went to Epstein's place with a warrant, were able to open 'the safe', saw stacks of videotapes..... and did not touch them. A week or so later when another FIBber team opened the safe, it was empty. Gee, how about that!
-How many people had access to wherever the evidence was stored?
-What are the procedures and safeguards to ensure that the evidence remained in place and untampered?
-How many layers of management are there between the Director and the actual people who would be able to put their hands on the evidence?
-If there was no 'procurement' or sex trafficking going on, then why is Ghislane Maxwell in prison?
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Muguy 7/9/2025 1:33:07 AM (No. 1974814)
Time to unravel the "chain of evidence" in possession.
Follow the money.
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Per #1, I read a Vanity Fair article about him sometime after the turn of the century. The initial setting was aboard the private jet of someone I'd never heard of named Jeffrey Epstein, which Clinton's security detail jokingly referred to as "Air F___ One." It all makes sense now.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Ketchuplover 7/9/2025 2:38:26 AM (No. 1974822)
Trump did a lame job Tuesday acting as if it is old news, a waste of time to dig into this. That's a politician's answer when they are hiding something. This issue has the potential of creating a big chink in the MAGA armor.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
MissGrits 7/9/2025 2:40:12 AM (No. 1974824)
Solomon said in the book of Ecclesiastes ... when sentence against an evil deed is not carried out quickly, then the hearts of men are turned toward that.
While some individual prosecutions would be nice, but in the end, societal rot is the great danger here.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
stablemoney 7/9/2025 2:56:56 AM (No. 1974826)
My theory is that Prince Andrew is why Trump is burying this. That is why Starmer delivered the letter from the King to Trump, inviting him to GB. Trump respects GB and their traditions, and does not want that ruined. Trump has been told by Bondi, Patel, and Bongino what is in those files, and Trump told them to shut the investigation down, which explains their bizarre behavior. Trump does not care about Clinton, or anyone else that is probably in those files. It is an obvious coverup as any real investigation would have followed the money trail, and we have gotten nothing on that. These are my guesses on the bizarre behavior we have been witnessing from people who told us they were going to be transparent, but haven't been. We have basically gotten nothing on anything the government has been involved in.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Rather Read 7/9/2025 5:46:32 AM (No. 1974840)
Honestly I think the administration has found so much against Epstein that their plan is to back off and start building cases about the individuals who were associated with him rather than spilling everything now and allow these individuals to lawyer up and perhaps never face justice for their crimes.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
franq 7/9/2025 5:49:31 AM (No. 1974841)
File next to "Bin Laden buried at sea", and "Flight 800 had fuel tank explosion".
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Sully 7/9/2025 5:49:40 AM (No. 1974842)
How did they capture Bongino and Patel and Bondi?
Did they threaten their children?
Did they show them a drone image of their back yard?
Watch their media interviews. They dont blink for fear of blinking an SOS on camera.
A club of billionaire child molesters has powerfull resources to persuade.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Red Jeep 7/9/2025 6:00:14 AM (No. 1974844)
See Whitney Webb's You Tube videos about Epstein. There is more than sex involved.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
ARKfamily 7/9/2025 6:14:19 AM (No. 1974848)
It is very tiresome to hear about how disappointed people are in Donald Trump concerning this issue. I will admit I have a fuzzy memory of dates but I do remember Jeffrey Epstein being acquitted or charges dropped during the Barack Obama/Joe Biden administration. Why weren't you speaking up then? It wasn't until Donald Trump became President of the USA that the Jeffrey Epstein case was being revisited. That was why he was in jail. We have no idea who is involved in all of this but I would venture to say that this is dark and sinister - who knows how many lives are being threatened. Remember what Donald Trump said after the attempted assassinations on him - it changed him. I bet there isn't a day that goes by where he remembers Corey Comperatore and his family. They were innocents. I could envision Donald Trump being more concerned about lives and the innocents involved. I think he was being gracious in nouns to use when calling Jeffrey Epstein a creep.
To all of you who are critical of Donald Trump, Bondi, Patel, Bongino - you are on the outside looking in and may not know the extent of evil and wickedness involved.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Krause 7/9/2025 6:26:54 AM (No. 1974851)
Ghislane Maxwell knows the most about what went on. Get her to talk.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
mifla 7/9/2025 6:32:05 AM (No. 1974855)
There is something here that the elites do not want released. How else does one explain all the misdirection associated with Epstein?
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
kdog 7/9/2025 6:32:37 AM (No. 1974856)
This gives TDS people the opportunity to say Trump is on the list and protecting himself. If that was true we would have known all about it 10 years ago.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
homefry 7/9/2025 6:39:58 AM (No. 1974861)
I'm hoping that they are setting a trap.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
5 handicap 7/9/2025 6:41:43 AM (No. 1974862)
I wanna know who the Hell bought Bondi and Patel?
They both have to be replaced Quickly with someone who has a modicum of integrity, which is sorely lacking currently!
Given all the CRIMINALITY of the last 4 years, how many have been indicted or for that matter innvestigated? The DOJ and the FBI are as CORRUPT now as ever!
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
billa57 7/9/2025 6:46:26 AM (No. 1974867)
Plenty of victims and evidence, but no perps? Imposible!
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This Epstein evidence is the key to taking down the deep state, which is on both sides of the aisle, by the way. My best guess is that Trump wanted some republican votes on his big beautiful bill badly enough to deep six this for their protection. Politicians do a lot of bad things claiming it is "for the public good".
I am beyond disappointed in both this and the sanitized information that was released on the JFK assassination!
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
privateer 7/9/2025 7:23:19 AM (No. 1974890)
I cannot but think that some people really are above the law. And JE is on a beach somewhere, laughing over a tropical drink. Freedom was his price for silence.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Bur Oak 7/9/2025 7:24:25 AM (No. 1974891)
The government doesn't have an Epstein problem. Epstein is only a symptom of a huge corruption problem.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
BarryNo 7/9/2025 7:25:59 AM (No. 1974892)
The CIA was created out of individuals recruited from Military intelligence and reported directly to the President. They were given unheard of resources and authority. They have been implicated in stabilizing Stalin's USSR, and Mao's Red China, with the intension of creating a permanent "need" for the Military Industrial Complex.
Constant little wars since have promoted this theme. Buy new 'improved' weapon systems to sell to our military and their allies to keep up with the threat. Send excess population off to die in endless useless wars.
Reports of ever more dangerous nuclear weapons to deter getting into wars with certain parties...
The CIA and it's allies the Military Industrial Complex, may be holding us all hostage. I could see the globalist as telling Trump, Patel, and Bongino, "If you go there, we can end EVERYTHING. We don't want to go public. We want the files to continue to blackmail these people from the shadows."
One or two Cobalt Bombs could do it.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Lazyman 7/9/2025 7:34:10 AM (No. 1974896)
Sometimes the net begins to catch people they need and has to be cut. The corruption runs deep and the Texas catastrophe is the cover and deflection required to stop the public from learning the truth- "you can't handle the truth."
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
tootall 7/9/2025 7:45:43 AM (No. 1974901)
I think the whole situation is so depraved and the individuals involved are so notable that disclosure would destroy Governments, Intl Corporations, and many World leaders.
For example, how could we support a Country like Israel lets say, if they are trafficking young girls to control World leaders like Bill Clinton or Bill Gates.
Epstein was an 'asset gatherer' not an investment advisor. His finder's fee funded the lavish lifestyle and depravity that occurred, and once on video they were hooked. The conversation might sound a bit like this. 'Just direct the money mgt of your huge foundations .. corporations .. through me so I can earn the 25bps (.25%). The same well known advisers and firms will actually invest same as always, but you get unlimited use of Lolita Island and this beautiful young innocent girl. Oh yeah, and Bob over here needs a little help on this legislation or this Country needs some support here or (fill in the blank)
The real Asset Managers in the business were amused at the parties and $$$ flying around and NEVER saw Epstein in the marketplace.
The true story could do significant damage or even bring down the status quo. Its highly unlikely the truth will ever come out, because many the people with the Power are either involved themselves or would suffer greatly from the tacit approval. I guess we'll see, but I don't think this is going to go away.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
bsparks 7/9/2025 7:50:54 AM (No. 1974905)
Ghislaine’s attorneys should file for mistrial immediately given the now apparently questionable assertions of trafficking and procurement. There were no sleezebag abusers!
What the heck just happened and who made it happen?
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
frankiems 7/9/2025 8:03:23 AM (No. 1974910)
Rumor also has it that Epstein was used by Israeli intelligence to control various US politicians and well-connected individuals to control foreign policy.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
felixcat 7/9/2025 8:32:39 AM (No. 1974919)
@ 13 - Bondi got way out ahead on her skis with all her pronouncements about all the Epstein files, etc. For a supposedly smart and savvy attorney - she should have kept her mouth shut until she physically saw/reviewed all the files and coordinated a future release with the FBI and White House. Same for Patel and Bongino - who may never have imagined they would have been offered high level positions in another Trump Administration, but again, either keep your mouths shut these last four years or don't accept these high level positions if you suspect you won't have a free hand or that your previous pronouncements will come back and haunt you.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
walcb 7/9/2025 8:43:35 AM (No. 1974927)
I understand what #13 is saying but I tire of the good of the few over the good of the many, I thought that was what I have been voting for/against. My theory is that the "list" contains many names, some of whom were evil in their pursuits and some who were brought into the circle with innocent intentions and the list can not differentiate between the two.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
govlawyer 7/9/2025 8:51:24 AM (No. 1974932)
The Trump Administration did not officially begin until January 20th--and were given "all" the records from "everyone" after that date, with the exception of a "truckload" of materials and evidence from the SDNY US Attorney's office.
The records the current DOJ got have been sanitized (unless put in a burn bag by someone), so I don't blame anyone (including Bondi) for engaging in a cover-up; what they are guilty of is believing that they're in charge. Until they ferret out the bad actors still in their midst they're in the same boat as Trump is with segments of the intelligence community......only as knowledgable as they let him be.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
Strike3 7/9/2025 9:18:24 AM (No. 1974950)
Personally, I think that most of the "good stuff" in the mountain of evidence collected from Epstein in both his Manhattan residence and Epstein Island was kept by the lower levels of the FBI and was never delivered to Pam Bondi's desk. People continue to blame her for evidence that never made it that far. Bill Clinton was a sleazebag pervert from the time he was the Governor of Arkansas and is responsible for more murders and rapes than anybody involved so start with him and Hillary, since she also enjoyed Epstein's sick hospitality. The claim that jail guards all fell asleep and cameras suddenly switched off by themselves at a critical time is absurd, I don't care how many explanations arise for that failure. Many high level government people are walking around guilty but free and sooner or later, somebody is going to talk. Hundreds of exploited teenage girls are now over the age of eighteen and can legally become witnesses.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
Buzzman 7/9/2025 9:49:38 AM (No. 1974963)
Sorry, no #13. The Epstein Case is the epitome of the Deep State's rot and unaccountable, lawless overlords of the American people. It is THE case that will define for all time whether the government can ever be trusted again. The president assured us that justice would be coming and now has buried it with his dismissive statement when questioned about the memo. He is now shrugging off justice for the people in order to protect the Deep State. He is now using the newly announced investigations of Comey and Brennan to distract us from his betrayal. He is no longer the solution, he is now part of the problem. Sorry, no.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
Zigrid 7/9/2025 10:06:15 AM (No. 1974969)
I've said before...I believe that Epstein was killed...and his list of famous clients is being hidden from WE the people because it undermines Washington DC's ruling elites....and it's great blackmail for getting things done....don't take it personally...it's just business....
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I believe that Bondi, Patel, and Bongino are telling the truth as they know it. These folks and the President understand the potential political fall-out from taking the position they have assumed if there in evidence out there to be found. The problem is that a corrupt FBI had custody of any evidence for way too long with ample opportunity to purge, destroy, or lose incriminating stuff before these folks ever came into office. One of the reasons I think this way is because at least one perp--Prince Andrew--has in fact been implicated. If he could be made to talk, he could certainly provide the names of others.Forcing a "prince of the realm" to talk against his will is nigh on to impossible.
For those who say, "If you think these folks are lying, show us the evidence." the problem is that no one other than the FBI has ever had control of any evidence. So refer to the above paragraph. At this point I believe we will never know the details until Jesus returns and "Everything that is hidden will be made known. . ."
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
marbles 7/9/2025 10:10:48 AM (No. 1974974)
# 13 I agree with you. # 32 "The wheels of justice move slowly but they grind exceedingly fine".
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
franco 7/9/2025 10:18:04 AM (No. 1974980)
To those who are here defending the administration in this case, my reaction is that gas-lighting one's own supporters is never a good way to conduct politics. Democrats do it all the time... they know their supporters are nit wits. However, when the president pulls a Hillary-esque "this is old news" parry to a reporter's blunt question on the topic, that's on the president.
One thing seems sure: While Bondi, Patel, and Bongino are ostensibly "in charge"... they are not in control and they are not calling the shots... and we do not know who is. And that bothers me the most.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 7/9/2025 10:28:03 AM (No. 1974985)
If the federal government turns its back on immorality such as this, America as founded is finished.
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
chillijilli 7/9/2025 11:02:44 AM (No. 1974993)
Oh c'mon you guys. This kind of covering for each other has been going on forever. It's just part of politics. Their game is to use artful dodges & ambiguous wording when accused of corruption and then laugh about their cleverness in backrooms. Do you remember Craig Livingstone and Hillary's Filegate? Bubba declared that "there was no credible evidence of any criminal activity." Sound familiar? He summarized Filegate as a "mistake made without bad intent" which "appears to have been a completely honest bureaucratic snafu." Notice the clever wording "appears to have been." He couldn't say it WAS a completely honest mistake---because it WASN'T a mistake and it wasn't honest.
Here we are 30+ years later and I'd like to know what's different.
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
franco 7/9/2025 11:08:03 AM (No. 1974997)
#38: Billy Jeff never ran for office on a promise to reveal Craig Livingstone's dirty deeds. And he was on the side of politics from which we have come to expect rampant corruption. We didn't expect the guy we supported -- and who made frequent references to Epstein in his campaign speeches -- to revert to Clinton-esque form. Glad you're taking it in stride, but for some people the betrayal feels palpable.
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
dbdiva 7/9/2025 12:03:49 PM (No. 1975016)
I'm leaning in the same direction as #17. We know President Trump's character and we know that he keeps his promises. Right now he's acting in ways that are counter to his character. "Acting" could be what he's doing now. We've recently seen how masterful he is at misdirection; perhaps he and his team want to lull the perps ~ whoever they all are ~ into believing they're in the clear. I fully believe that he has intentions to ensure that justice will be served or as much justice as possible for everyone who was harmed. I don't ask anyone to agree with me. Many comments I read contain valid points but I think it's important to remember the kind of man President Trump is and what a good heart he has. I believe there is more to this story than meets the eye.
My 2 cents....
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
little guy 7/9/2025 12:47:26 PM (No. 1975050)
Here is the ONE & ONLY scenario I would personally find acceptable:
The Epstein files are indeed filled with many, many politicians from BOTH sides of the aisle and that includes members of our judicial system (like SCOTUS) and even a few high-rolling Dems like Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, The Oprah, et. al. Trump now knows all this and all their names and the emails they sent Epstein. He made it known to all of them that if they continue to try and stop him, he will release what he has!
Thus, you may notice that the Supreme Court has recently swung towards Trump (Roberts in particular seems to have gotten with the program) ... as have many of Trump's enemies --- who are now laying low.
The direct attacks on Trump and his agenda have indeed slowed down and are not as loud. Many negative comments are down right perfunctory.
You say that many others like AOC, Bernie, Faux-cahontas, etc. are still going crazy? Well ... yeah ... that's because they're not on the list!
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
BarryNo 7/9/2025 2:07:07 PM (No. 1975066)
We are not going to get an answer to why everyone who goes into government clams up once they are there, until we independently disclose and publicize the reasons. With some it might be money, or blackmail... Threat of assassination...
But not all. There is some trigger that's bigger.
I must ask does the Deep State have a doomsday trigger, threatening Global Annihilation? There are several possible tools: biological and nuclear where a single device could destroy all life. No reason to imagine only 'governments' would have such things.
Is it time to call their bluff?
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
jdano 7/9/2025 3:16:55 PM (No. 1975113)
I don't care about this. What bothers me us that Islam us taking over our cities, and that isn't front page news.
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Reply 44 - Posted by:
JHHolliday 7/9/2025 3:47:49 PM (No. 1975134)
I agree with #40. Let's wait and see what actually happens. I have the feeling that they are in the evidence gathering phase. I also expect some leak of the list down the road. Maybe by someone under pressure trying to save his own skin.
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Reply 45 - Posted by:
mc squared 7/9/2025 4:53:28 PM (No. 1975178)
#13: Epstein was arrested a suicided when Biden Inc. was running the show.
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Reply 46 - Posted by:
jasonB 7/9/2025 5:04:58 PM (No. 1975182)
#45 A quick internet search can be your friend. Aug 2019.
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Reply 47 - Posted by:
JoElla Bee 7/9/2025 6:43:38 PM (No. 1975231)
I agree completely with your comment about President Trump’s character, etc., #40.
I believe that his devout intention is to restore this country to its founding precepts and principles, which is the only way to truly Make America Great Again.
An old saying, that I used to hear quite frequently when I was a girl, recently popped into my mind regarding achieving goals, or solving problems - “there’s more than one way to skin a cat”. President Trump has skinned quite a few cats. By the grace of God, he has overcome so far. I wouldn’t bet against him.
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Reply 48 - Posted by:
snakeoil 7/9/2025 7:51:22 PM (No. 1975259)
My favorite African Amercian, Elon Musk, said President Trump was on the list. I adore PT but something fishy is going on.
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