Report: Hamas to submit comprehensive
ceasefire-hostage exchange proposal in Doha
Times of Israel,
by
Gianluca Pacchiani
Original Article
Posted By: OhioNick,
10/27/2024 3:48:26 PM
A Hamas source tells the Saudi channel Asharq News that the terror group will present negotiators with a comprehensive deal for an immediate end to the war and a withdrawal of Israeli troops from the Gaza Strip, and the exchange of a certain number of Palestinian detainees in return for the release of all Israeli hostages at once. The offer is expected to be submitted following the meeting that US, Qatari and Israeli negotiators are holding in Doha today to prepare for new talks for a ceasefire and hostage release deal.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
Jesuslover54 10/27/2024 4:00:32 PM (No. 1821095)
Sorry, too late.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
FJB 2022 23 24 10/27/2024 4:09:55 PM (No. 1821098)
Don't trust them, finish wiping them out.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
itsonlyme 10/27/2024 4:17:21 PM (No. 1821103)
The MANY Knotseez in the MSM would prefer that you ignore the hostages taken by the terrorists,
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bighambone 10/27/2024 4:21:41 PM (No. 1821105)
Chances are the Hamas bigwigs figure that Trump is going to win the election and they do not want to have to deal with Trump. If they really do come forward with any proposed “ceasefire” deal, watch as the US leftist and progressive Democrats then falsely claim that Harris was the political catalyst for whatever proposed deal pops up.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
stablemoney 10/27/2024 4:23:08 PM (No. 1821107)
Israel is going to get that anyway. Israel should continue until unconditional surrender.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Northcross 10/27/2024 4:27:07 PM (No. 1821110)
Excellent analysis by the OP.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Bur Oak 10/27/2024 4:34:10 PM (No. 1821111)
No truce only surrender.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
CDR 10/27/2024 4:39:43 PM (No. 1821113)
following is an article form Middle East Forum 1 Oct 2008, by Raymond Ibrahim, Jane's Islamic Affairs Analyst
I suggest read whole article to understand this thought process in Islam..
Articulation of taqiyya
According to the authoritative Arabic text, Al-Taqiyya Fi Al-Islam: “Taqiyya [deception] is of fundamental importance in Islam. Practically every Islamic sect agrees to it and practices it. We can go so far as to say that the practice of taqiyya is mainstream in Islam, and that those few sects not practicing it diverge from the mainstream...Taqiyya is very prevalent in Islamic politics, especially in the modern era.”
The primary Quranic verse sanctioning deception with respect to non-Muslims states: “Let believers not take for friends and allies infidels instead of believers. Whoever does this shall have no relationship left with Allah – unless you but guard yourselves against them, taking precautions.” (Quran 3:28; see also 2:173; 2:185; 4:29; 22:78; 40:28.)
Al-Tabari’s (838-923 AD) Tafsir, or Quranic exegeses, is essentially a standard reference in the entire Muslim world. Regarding 3:28, he wrote: “If you [Muslims] are under their [infidels’] authority, fearing for yourselves, behave loyally to them, with your tongue, while harbouring inner animosity for them... Allah has forbidden believers from being friendly or on intimate terms with the infidels in place of believers – except when infidels are above them [in authority]. In such a scenario, let them act friendly towards them.”
Regarding 3:28, the Islamic scholar Ibn Kathir (1301-1373) wrote: “Whoever at any time or place fears their [infidels’] evil, may protect himself through outward show.”
As proof of this, he quotes Muhammad’s companions. Abu Darda said: “Let us smile to the face of some people while our hearts curse them.” Al-Hassan said: “Doing taqiyya is acceptable till the day of judgment [in perpetuity].”
Other prominent ulema, such as al- Qurtubi , al-Razi, and al-Arabi have extended taqiyya to cover deeds. Muslims can behave like infidels – from bowing down and worshipping idols and crosses to even exposing fellow Muslims’ “weak spots” to the infidel enemy – anything short of actually killing a fellow Muslim.
War is deceit
None of this should be surprising considering that Muhammad himself, whose example as the “most perfect human” is to be tenaciously followed, took an expedient view on the issue of deception. For instance, Muhammad permitted deceit in three situations: to reconcile two or more quarreling parties; husband to wife and vice-versa; and in war (See Sahih Muslim B32N6303, deemed an “authentic” hadith).
During the Battle of the Trench (627 AD), which pitted Muhammad and his followers against several non-Muslim tribes collectively known as “the Confederates”, a Confederate called Naim bin Masud went to the Muslim camp and converted to Islam. When Muhammad discovered the Confederates were unaware of Masud’s conversion, he counseled him to return and try somehow to get his tribesmen to abandon the siege. “For war is deceit,” Muhammad assured him.
Please read full article mentioned above to understand mores
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Venturer 10/27/2024 4:57:25 PM (No. 1821122)
Hamas will rebuild itself for the next slaughter of Jews no matter what.
The return of all hostages sounds good, but who knows how many hostages are still alive and who accounts for those who are dead or not turned over. An accounting must be made. Sooner or later Hamas prisoners will have to be turned loose anyway, the expense of feeding and jailing them will have to end. What is so stupid is this could have come a year ago before all of the deaths on both sides. Muslims have never been known for intelligence.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
JHHolliday 10/27/2024 5:50:35 PM (No. 1821168)
Per #9..."the expense of feeding and jailing them will have to end". There is a simple solution to that problem.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
hurricanegirl 10/27/2024 5:58:16 PM (No. 1821176)
If you think Hamas is going to agree to all of Israel's terms, boy, do I have some ocean-front property for you!!!
Hint: They won't; hence, this ceasefire agreement is DOA!
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
SALady 10/27/2024 11:54:01 PM (No. 1821328)
This was ends when hamas unconditional surrenders and releases of all Israeli hostages -- not a second before!!!!!
When you have a vermin infestation in your house, you exterminate them until every one of them is dead. If you miss even a couple, they will multiply and be back infesting your house again.
Nope, too many Israelis have given their lives, along with too many of the hostages, to let even a single member of hamas walk away. Hamas is in no position to make demands. Unconditional surrender!!!!!!
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
mifla 10/28/2024 4:47:37 AM (No. 1821358)
I seem to remember that there was a cease fire in place prior to Oct 7.
Keep going Ben, The adults will be back in charge of the US soon.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
5 handicap 10/28/2024 6:38:46 AM (No. 1821395)
Correct answer: In a pigs eye! We’re just gonna kill every last Muslim POS in Gaza, only then will there be a cease fire!
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 10/28/2024 8:41:01 AM (No. 1821451)
Hamas, the deal - Release of all Israeli hostages unharmed followed by your eradication.
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All the Israelis have to do is cite the "promised agreements" over decades that the Palestinians have broken, and say NO. Maybe they should drill that list off broken cease-fire agreements into the minds of Palestinian sympathizers, and repeat, and repeat.....
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Kate318 10/28/2024 10:55:34 AM (No. 1821526)
No truce. Unconditional surrender.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Zigrid 10/28/2024 11:01:29 AM (No. 1821530)
No deal...it's now or never for Israel and Netanyahu is no fool...he knows just what this cease fire deal is all about...and if the US government is in favor of it....then I wouldn't go near it....Barack HUSSEIN Obama is in charge of the White House war room...and he's slippery and slick when it comes to his mooslim buddies....he can't rattle the cage anymore because Israel knows his plan...and he's in the dark because Israel isn't sharing anything with washington....
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Strike3 10/28/2024 6:50:37 PM (No. 1821790)
One of the Hamas bathroom orderlies must have lived through the bombings. Return ALL hostages taken in Israel and move ALL palestinians somewhere out in the Sahara Desert where they and Hamas can cause trouble for somebody else, Israel owns Gaza.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
udanja99 10/28/2024 8:10:25 PM (No. 1821824)
Why now? Answer - they’re terrified of Trump and what he will give to Israel.
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Mohamed taught his followers to demand a truce when faced with imminent defeat. He also ordered that no truce should last more than 10 years. If Israel agrees to this truce, then Hamas will regroup, rebuild its tunnels, replenish its store of weapons and then attack its neighbor once again in the future.