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National Cathedral replaces windows honoring
Confederacy with stained-glass homage
to racial justice

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Posted By: Imright, 9/23/2023 6:16:33 PM

The landmark Washington National Cathedral unveiled new stained-glass windows Saturday with a theme of racial justice, filling the space that had once held four windows honoring Confederate Gens. Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson. The new windows depict a march for justice by African Americans, descendants of the very people who would have remained in slavery after the Civil War if the side for which the officers fought had prevailed. The cathedral had removed the old windows after Confederate symbols featured prominently in recent racist violence.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: seamusm 9/23/2023 6:32:33 PM (No. 1561990)
I have no problem with this action. Most of these memorials which honor Confederate heroes were very deliberate 'in your face' remembrances. They weren't directed at Blacks or prior slaves per se but more as testaments to 'The South shall rise again'. Today's Blacks rightfully see them otherwise. I understand the arguments against that the erasure of history is dangerous, but human nature ensures that people will repeat the sins of the past with or without these memorials, anyway.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: ZeldaFitzg 9/23/2023 6:33:56 PM (No. 1561992)
Well, just kiss my Southern bustle.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Citoyen 9/23/2023 6:36:40 PM (No. 1561994)
Needless to say this article, which included several photos of the new stained glass, didn't include any photos of what they replaced. Of course to do so would show that, artistically, the new images are radically inferior to the ones that were removed. The new images are even inferior to Soviet style propaganda pictures. The drive to remove all beauty and replace with ugliness continues.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Scribelus 9/23/2023 6:53:05 PM (No. 1562004)
Vandalism lurches on.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Catherine 9/23/2023 6:55:09 PM (No. 1562006)
So do you think there will ever come a day when some people move past a history that ended over 150 years ago?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: earlybird 9/23/2023 6:56:25 PM (No. 1562007)
We wee invited to the capstone ceremony at the Cathedral dedades ago. A walk through afterward disclosed the coldest edifice imaginable. The designers ddidn't know the American people... '
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Birddog 9/23/2023 6:56:32 PM (No. 1562008)
What did they do with the OLD windows?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Bur Oak 9/23/2023 7:04:07 PM (No. 1562011)
It is no longer a national cathedral.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Albatross 9/23/2023 7:14:15 PM (No. 1562015)
The article says that Images in the Cathedral range from presidents to famous cultural figures and state symbols. Do they have anything related to the Christian faith?
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Reply 10 - Posted by: bamapreacher 9/23/2023 7:21:46 PM (No. 1562017)
A few years ago Duke University removed a stained glass portrait of Lee, but left the portrait of Jesus on the pinnacle of the temple with a prominent little green devil looking over his shoulder. The devil's more appropriate for these people than a human, Confederate or not.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Gordon Mills 9/23/2023 7:40:09 PM (No. 1562025)
#5, not as long as there is money to be made from victimhood
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Reply 12 - Posted by: volksford 9/23/2023 7:41:13 PM (No. 1562027)
Well... # I have a big damn problem with it and I will bet many Southern folk do , and speaking of in your face that is exactly what has occurred.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Kate318 9/23/2023 7:57:51 PM (No. 1562030)
Spare me.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: JHHolliday 9/23/2023 8:46:33 PM (No. 1562043)
I have an ancestor who was one of the biggest slaveholders in the state of Georgia. I abjectly apologize for his part in bringing Africans into this country. Just think...had he and others not done so, we would have half the violent crime in this country and we would only need half the prisons, half the judges, half the legal system and we would have saved trillions of welfare dollars. Our blue big cities would not be the hellholes they are now. Sorry, folks.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: chance_232 9/23/2023 9:04:00 PM (No. 1562048)
And here I thought that the purpose of decorating a place of worship was to glorify G_d. The National Cathedral isn’t about G_d at all. It’s about raking in dollars for the Episcoal Church and glorifying American achievements. I’m some what surprised that actual worship is tolerated there. It is after all run by the most woke religious organization in America.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: rochow 9/23/2023 9:42:05 PM (No. 1562065)
Really? Are they doing that in Africa as well since they are still busy selling slaves to the Saudis, Yemeni, Quatar, etc.?????
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Catherine 9/24/2023 12:16:57 AM (No. 1562113)
For the record, the south fought the Civil War for state's rights, not slavery. Only 10% of southerners owned slaves. My mom said as a little girl she remembered sitting on the porch where old men were talking about the war. Towards the end all they had to fight with were rocks. Seems to me we're still fighting for state's rights.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: kono 9/24/2023 1:32:15 AM (No. 1562142)
The new windows should have gotten sacred themes, like maybe the mysteries of the Gospel. Or maybe this highlights what they consider sacred.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Rather Read 9/24/2023 6:30:49 AM (No. 1562195)
I can't say I like these windows very much. Slavery was an abomination. But it was not unique to the south - slavery under the Ottoman Empire was horrible. Black slaves were routinely castrated.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: udanja99 9/24/2023 7:14:03 AM (No. 1562205)
Ugly windows, but perfectly appropriate to display the ugliness in the hearts and souls of every leftist.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: lana720 9/24/2023 7:29:15 AM (No. 1562208)
Those are some ugly-@$$ed windows. I’ve seen better graffiti on box cars.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: 5 handicap 9/24/2023 7:39:17 AM (No. 1562211)
The "National Cathedral" is wholly owned and controlled by the irretrievably evil Episcopal Church! Most of whose priests would rather teach the blessings of Sodomy than acts of the Christ!
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Reply 23 - Posted by: rightdog 9/24/2023 8:08:27 AM (No. 1562223)
Absolutely disgusting that the latest hero of the white guilt crowd, George Floyd, wasn't honored with a special window.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Catfur27 9/24/2023 8:17:26 AM (No. 1562224)
...Example #14,651 of : " It's cool to criticize and condemn White culture from hundreds of years ago...without EVER mentioning current POC culture. "
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Reply 25 - Posted by: Venturer 9/24/2023 8:36:50 AM (No. 1562235)
Whoa: If the picture in the article is a picture of the window, it's an abomination. Someone actually thought that was a good idea?
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Reply 26 - Posted by: BeatleJeff 9/24/2023 8:53:34 AM (No. 1562243)
The American Taliban strikes again.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: Trapper 9/24/2023 8:57:40 AM (No. 1562247)
Good. Long past time to take down all memorials to traitors who took up arms agains the United States.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Trapper 9/24/2023 9:03:15 AM (No. 1562251)
Oh, and "for the record" the confederate states fought the war over slavery, not state's rights. If one reads their articles of secession many stated very clearly that they were seceded in order to preserve slavery intheir state. The war was about slavery and nothing else. All the blather abolut states' rights is just nonh9istorical rationalization by the losers.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: JackBurton 9/24/2023 9:08:23 AM (No. 1562254)
Went looking for pictures of the removed windows. What I found wasn't terribly artful, was less preachy, and had only a small portion that would give you any idea that it identified the rebel south. Judge for yourself. https://imgs.search.brave.com/Q-QTLmQ89Lh1qAhIxj0kUKewx-KzDs8OL7epnpjV9vQ/rs:fit:500:0:0/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly9tZWRp/YS5ucHIub3JnL2Fz/c2V0cy9pbWcvMjAx/Ny8wOS8wNi93bmMt/bGVlamFja3Nvbndp/bmRvd3MxX3dpZGUt/NjBlMDA4YmIxY2Iy/Y2NhM2ZjOWQ2ZTZk/OGMyNDhiN2E2ZmYz/MTY1OC1zMTEwMC1j/NTAuanBn
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Reply 30 - Posted by: WWIIDaughter 9/24/2023 9:09:33 AM (No. 1562256)
Affirmative Action Art is visual confirmation of what happens to education, medicine, airlines, banking, military service, etc. when racial replaces excellence.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: Strike3 9/24/2023 9:15:18 AM (No. 1562260)
You think that art work is juvenile and ugly, wait until the Statue of Liberty is replaced by a gigantic statue of George Floyd.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: Rumblehog 9/24/2023 9:58:27 AM (No. 1562308)
A window must now be provided to honor the 'brave' North African Muslims who 'rescued' the 'oppressed' blacks for relocation to the New World by European Merchant-Ship captains, who ever so 'safely' brought the 'migrants' to America, where they were 'seized' upon to be enslaved and brutalized by 'evil white men.' /s There was a very good reason for the 'victor' of the "War Between the States" to attempt to heal the wounds of a nation by honoring their military leaders. (Note: no window for President Jefferson Davis!) Both sides had lost the lives of hundreds of thousands of "mostly white" soldiers and civilians with animosity still running very deep and now, drenched in blood. Showing respect for the vanquished is good policy when you must all live and work together moving forward. By the way, there's not a single "Socialist Injustice Coward" worthy to touch the Saber's Sheath of either Gens. "Stonewall" Jackson or Robert E. Lee; both were fine Christian gentlemen, courageous leaders, and brilliant minds.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: marbles 9/24/2023 10:21:08 AM (No. 1562327)
Artistically, that's the best that they could do? They're ugly, clumsy and altogether bad art.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: Rinktum 9/24/2023 10:44:45 AM (No. 1562341)
The left has to erase our past before they can rewrite it.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: Zigrid 9/24/2023 11:37:13 AM (No. 1562387)
I really don't give a rat's patootie....it's not the bricks and mortar that counts...it's the Word spoken inside.....
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Reply 36 - Posted by: PrayerWarrior 9/24/2023 12:20:41 PM (No. 1562420)
Those "new" stained glass windows are ugly and not a work of art. It's a work of ugly! I think whoever is behind this is just trying to provoke more racial hatred and division. This is how far our nation has fallen; take down our history and replace it with propaganda!
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Reply 37 - Posted by: Kafka2 9/24/2023 1:20:03 PM (No. 1562466)
I can understand that the old windows would offend some people. However, it would have been better if the new windows had a religious or a neutral theme instead of swinging the pendulum in the opposite direction.
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Reply 38 - Posted by: Penney 9/24/2023 8:47:10 PM (No. 1562746)
The, 'anti-everything,' revisionists are trying to destroy American history, thus America itself!???!
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Reply 39 - Posted by: Imright 9/24/2023 9:02:38 PM (No. 1562757)
Thank you #29....Was trying to find some of the windows....What a difference! We must Pray for our Country.....
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