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Here’s Another Reason To Hate EVs

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Posted By: RockyTCB, 7/3/2023 7:06:58 AM

"As fuel taxes plummet, states weigh charging by the mile instead of the tank.” That was the headline of a recent AP story, which should scare freedom-loving citizens everywhere. And you can place the blame squarely on government-subsidized EVs for this terrible new development. The background is that state and federal gasoline taxes aren’t raising “enough” money these days to pay for roadway construction and maintenance. And a big reason for the growing shortfall is the increase in electric vehicles. EVs get massive tax subsidies to convince people to buy them, but their owners don’t pay gasoline taxes,

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Reply 1 - Posted by: downnout 7/3/2023 7:17:04 AM (No. 1504689)
Not mentioned in the article is that EVs are much heavier than internal combustion autos thereby inflicting more damage on the roadways.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Strike3 7/3/2023 7:31:22 AM (No. 1504697)
Don't hate EVs, hate the stupid, delusional Greenies in our sham government that are trying to push an inefficient and unworkable solution on people who will not accept it. Net harm to the environment INCREASES with every one that goes on the highway.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Michaelus 7/3/2023 7:31:50 AM (No. 1504698)
So add in another 25-50 cents per mile of real costs to pay for the roads and these things make even less economic or environmental sense. OTOH cars do not damage the roads. It's the heavy trucks and they have never had to pay their fair share.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: MickTurn 7/3/2023 7:56:37 AM (No. 1504724)
How about only EV's pay this "New Tax" so they pay for the roads they drive on just like the rest of us?
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Red Jeep 7/3/2023 8:28:59 AM (No. 1504751)
You see, Liberals never think beyond Step 1....
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Venturer 7/3/2023 8:34:37 AM (No. 1504754)
Sorry: I am not convinced that there are enough EV's out there yet to cause a problem with not enough money to fix the roads. I believe that one day someone will wake up and see that EV's are not the answer. Perhaps the hydrogen car may work, it certainly has a better chance than the EV. EV's have some serious problems with large & expensive batteries, no charging stations, short range, and not enough energy production to run them and a home air conditioner at the same time. In fact this whole solar panels and windmills solution is BS of the highest order. A situation making China rich while destroying our own economy, and doing more environmental damage than the Fossil fuel industry.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Bur Oak 7/3/2023 8:54:35 AM (No. 1504780)
I hate electric vehicles because I am forced to subsidize them and the rich that own them with my tax dollars.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: NamVet70 7/3/2023 8:59:05 AM (No. 1504785)
"As fuel taxes plummet, states weigh charging by the mile instead of the tank." - this "headline" is misleading. The story is about the federal government pushing a tax by distance traveled plan. States are also looking at a more reasonable solution, taxing the registration of EV vehicles to collect the equivalent road use burden. Remember, these vehicles are about three times the weight of an ICE vehicle and should pay about three times the tax an ICE vehicle is charged in fuel taxes.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Quigley 7/3/2023 9:08:14 AM (No. 1504799)
The article talks like the $$$Billions involved are big money, and yet we gave Ukraine an extra $20 Billion due to an accounting error. It's all big money when we pay; all spent like water.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: 3XALADY 7/3/2023 9:10:51 AM (No. 1504805)
Someone has been paying gas taxes. Here in east central Missouri every where you look is road construction. New paving for miles and miles. Hasn't started yet, but coming up is adding lanes to Hwy. 70, not sure where it will start, but going all the way to at least Columbia. Million$ and million$ of highway funds are being spent here. I guess that's not a bad thing, though.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: sw penn 7/3/2023 9:14:30 AM (No. 1504809)
When you let government hold the idea that it has the power to tax everything, it will tax everything. No government has ever had “enough” money. No government ever will. How do you feel about your tax dollars going to break and fix roads in the Ukraine while your bridges rot?
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Mizz Fixxit 7/3/2023 9:52:24 AM (No. 1504837)
Or spike gas prices to $10 with much of the increase driven by a new $2 per gallon federal gas tax. Tack on a $25 tax at charging stations. Remember what Obama said, “electricity prices must necessarily skyrocket.” Push the middle class off the roads. That’s the plan.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Nimby 7/3/2023 9:55:08 AM (No. 1504840)
What "roadway construction and maintenance"? I thought that was what the Obama/Biden "American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009" of $787 billion was all about? The 787 that "supposedly" cost the taxpayers 831 billion? Wasn't Sheriff Joe in-charge of those shovel ready projects? How much did Hunter make of the 831 billion?
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Kafka2 7/3/2023 10:01:41 AM (No. 1504845)
Just think, the same people that are pushing EVs are also actively working to shut down reliable electrical power plants at the same they are increasing demand for electrical power to recharge the EVs. The reliable power plants are to be replaced by unreliable wind and solar plants that have yet to be built. And, it takes more energy to move those EVs around because their batteries weigh a whole lot more than a full tank of gas. Does anybody see the problem being created? We already experience rolling blackouts in some areas.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: snowoutlaw 7/3/2023 10:09:36 AM (No. 1504852)
Here they want the mileage tax but not for roadway construction and maintenance, they want it for new public transportation that less than 10% will ever use. They already divert most of the gas taxes for public transportation so the roads decay and they can fool people into thinking we need more taxes to fix the roads but they never actually spend it on roads.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Kafka2 7/3/2023 10:55:59 AM (No. 1504893)
As for charging tax by each vehicle mile, it only creates a significant overhead expense for the Bureaucracy required to make it work. The tax now is charged by the gallon and which is fairer since larger vehicles, which cause more ware and tare on the roads usually get fewer miles per gallon than smaller vehicles. Therefore, larger vehicles pay a little more mile which is more proportional to the ware and take their vehicles cause. The tax is usually paid monthly by service stations on the total gallons sold that month. The overhead is less that 0.1% of collecting tax by vehicle mileage. It would make more sense to charge by kilowatt-hours at recharge stations.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Lawsy0 7/3/2023 11:34:40 AM (No. 1504950)
If Feds are for EV's I am automatically against them. Case closed. I remember the diatribe published years ago by Ralph the Nanny Nader, ''Unsafe at Any Speed.'' And then there was Rachel Carson. I'll stop now.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: kono 7/3/2023 11:50:26 AM (No. 1504956)
I'll consider hating EVs over the gas tax issue, once I finish hating them for having power sources less effective and less reliable than gasoline engines, and for the relentless propaganda permeating the "renewable energy" hype. (Batteries are one of energy technology's methods LEAST friendly to the environment. And ABSOLUTELY NOT "emissions free".)
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Reply 19 - Posted by: samoasam 7/3/2023 2:08:00 PM (No. 1505060)
Sorry, Issues and Insights you’re way off the mark. I just lost respect for you guys. You’re using EVs to make a remote point. There Aren’t Enough EVs out there to cause the loss in revenue you claim. They are insignificant. Pathetically small numbers to cause the impact you falsely claim. You guys better stay on tract or you’ll be as popular as those coal burning EVs. Wiseup!!!
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