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Biden Admin Tells Catholic Hospital To
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Posted By: Beardo, 5/3/2023 4:40:05 PM

The Biden administration’s Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) has told a Catholic hospital in Oklahoma to put out a sanctuary candle light, a command they say violates their religious beliefs. The federal government told Saint Francis Health System’s Senior Vice President and General Counsel Michael J. Lissau that the sanctuary candle on their premises was in violation of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services’s (CMS) fire safety requirements, the hospital says. The government says that the hospital will no longer be able to accept Medicare and Medicaid funds as long as the flame remains in the chapel.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Beardo 5/3/2023 4:42:57 PM (No. 1462074)
FTA: After the hospital requested a waiver, the HHS sent a letter denying the request on April 20.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Catherine 5/3/2023 4:43:38 PM (No. 1462075)
But Muslims can ring a bell or some such in Minnesota, I think it is, five times a day. It's loud, everyone will hear it. And they object to a candle.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: formerNYer 5/3/2023 4:47:36 PM (No. 1462076)
Sue!
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Peregrine 5/3/2023 4:56:07 PM (No. 1462082)
I guess Biden is not as Catholic as he would lead us to believe.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: padiva 5/3/2023 4:57:34 PM (No. 1462084)
Can a battery operated candle be used?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: kono 5/3/2023 5:00:27 PM (No. 1462086)
HHS demonstrated clearly (when FJB was VP for Obama) that the First Amendment means SQUAT to them, when they denied religious sisters the right to a religious exception to their "women's reproductive health coverage" covering artificial birth control and abortion, meaning the sisters are contributing to the payment for completed abortions of all women. A sin that excommunicates the sinner latae sentenciae. Things are very different in the Soviet States of America, even though they look very similar to before...
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Quigley 5/3/2023 5:01:26 PM (No. 1462088)
Put it out in front of the chapel?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: columba 5/3/2023 5:03:33 PM (No. 1462090)
The article here can be found in the persecution book written by the men in the Soviet Union. There will be more to come.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Daisymay 5/3/2023 5:04:03 PM (No. 1462091)
And this is where the Biden Administration has led us.. A Candle! Biden could put a stop to this in five minutes being the DEVOUT Catholic he pretends to be. He believe in Abortion until Birth, but a Candle burning in a Sanctuary is a problem?? Geesh! This Democrats in this Country surly are going to burn in Hell if this is where they're headed!
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Georgia Peach 5/3/2023 5:10:26 PM (No. 1462095)
But it was never a problem before? If it is a sanctuary candle, it is likely signifying the Real Presence in the chapel. Do not try to tell me that this is not spiritual warfare.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Cindiana 5/3/2023 5:14:22 PM (No. 1462098)
Jesus, please. It's time.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: happywarrior 5/3/2023 5:14:51 PM (No. 1462099)
I'm with #5, get a battery operated one where the wick moves, it looks almost real. If they demand the removal of that, then we know the issue.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: thethirdruffian 5/3/2023 5:21:53 PM (No. 1462103)
So, what I'm reading is this candle really works to expel evil spirits.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: ronbet 5/3/2023 5:24:46 PM (No. 1462106)
This is a violation of the constitution's separation of church and state. Biden will do as he pleases unless someone stops him. Anyone????
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Reply 15 - Posted by: seamusm 5/3/2023 5:33:13 PM (No. 1462111)
Many thousands of lit candles in thousands of sanctuaries worldwide for over a thousand years and I am not aware of any churches torched by the light which reminds of Jesus' presence. Biden is not Catholic regardless of how many perverted priests and bishops claim otherwise.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Penney 5/3/2023 5:39:47 PM (No. 1462113)
WE the American citizens ARE the Government, respect the U.S. Constitution and pay the taxes which pay the H.H.S., 'dictator-wanna-be's,' increasingly shameful demands! The H.H.S. needs to respect American history and the 1st. Ammendment too!!!
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Illinois Mom 5/3/2023 5:52:25 PM (No. 1462119)
First...It's not a "candle." It's called a Sanctuary Lamp and if the Real Presence is present it MUST be lit. Mr Super Catholic Biden should know that. It must be oil or a beeswax candle. I have never seen an open flame in church the candle is placed in a red lamp that is usually hung on the wall nowhere near people or flammable materials. BTW...Are they doing this to Muslim's? The ACTUAL terrorists, with a track record? These people are nuts. The typical "Traditional Catholic" are probably the most peaceful people on Earth. Are they looking for ways to offend real Americans?
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Reply 18 - Posted by: wilarrbie 5/3/2023 6:03:41 PM (No. 1462122)
This is not about putting out a candle. It is more about extinguishing any show of faith in our Lord. I pray they value God more than our increasingly hostile government.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: udanja99 5/3/2023 6:19:36 PM (No. 1462130)
Sanctuary candles are inside of glass tubes, usually red glass - they aren’t just sitting there on a candle stick which can easily be knocked over. The is religious persecution. I bet that HHS would have no problem at all if Hunter sat in the chapel and lit up his crack pipe.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: DVC 5/3/2023 6:42:30 PM (No. 1462150)
Leftists hate Christians and Christianity. It's like holy water to a vampire, they just go nuts about ANYTHING that is Christian.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: D S Craft 5/3/2023 6:43:29 PM (No. 1462152)
This is precisely how the US government works: they get you hooked up to the US government teat and then threaten to withhold money if you don't dance to their tune. They do it to individuals, they do it to states and they do it to foreign governments. Entities that allow themselves to become beholden to the feds are making a big mistake because eventually the feds will use that power against them.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Heil Liberals 5/3/2023 6:59:50 PM (No. 1462161)
#5 - No.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: janjan 5/3/2023 7:23:01 PM (No. 1462173)
#5 and #12 - Do you really believe that the HHS is simply worried about a fire hazard? Have you been paying attention to the outright war the left is waging on Christianity? This is a classic case of unconstitutional intimidation against Catholics. The hospital should not give an inch.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: FormerDem 5/3/2023 7:39:57 PM (No. 1462180)
The Catholic hospitals are more or less the origin of the idea of a hospital, so far as I know. Who are these people to tell St. Francis to turn off the sanctuary light?
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Reply 25 - Posted by: ChattyCatsSusan 5/3/2023 7:57:11 PM (No. 1462188)
Because muslims bite back and the Catholic church doesn't #2. That just might need to change or this administration is going to be out of control against Christians.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: ThreeBadCats3 5/3/2023 8:10:20 PM (No. 1462198)
Don’t blame this, or probably anything else coming out of this evil consortium, on the Big Guy. Unlikely that he is making or even aware of the idiotic edicts they are foisting on us.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: Kate318 5/3/2023 8:17:34 PM (No. 1462203)
Pure Obama. Mean-spirited, in your face, vengeful.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Highlander 5/3/2023 8:20:25 PM (No. 1462204)
It’s not Biden’s doing. It’s the demon standing behind him, whispering in his ear.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: Grateful 5/3/2023 8:27:25 PM (No. 1462205)
I have been to rites at VA Medical Center chapels where lighted candles are used. Is this also against the hospital rules of HHSA leftists? How about lighted menorahs at Jewish hospitals? Do HHSA leftists also hate that, even though not a Christian rite?
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Reply 30 - Posted by: Zeek Wolfe 5/3/2023 8:48:14 PM (No. 1462213)
When ever I go into an old California mission, I always light a candle and say a prayer (I'm Protestant) but like Catholic traditions. Candles nowadays are electric. That' cool! Don't want to burn down San Juan Capistrano or Santa Inez. God will approve the switch to electric.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: dovestar 5/3/2023 10:21:21 PM (No. 1462240)
I've seen battery operated candles and even an electric Sanctuary Light --not only looks stupid but absolutely tacky. If it ain't lit it ain't legit! Meanwhile, I've seen video of the SSPX Immaculata dedication today with actual fires on the Altar. Whom do we serve?
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Reply 32 - Posted by: Lawsy0 5/4/2023 1:07:29 AM (No. 1462298)
Has the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) also told the Muslim places of worship to quit the ululation heard from their towers and other places five times a day? I doubt it. Only the followers of Christ are called into account. We were warned long ago when the Bible was first published in the languages of the people.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: mifla 5/4/2023 5:47:29 AM (No. 1462329)
American Bishops, had enough yet?
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Reply 34 - Posted by: 5 handicap 5/4/2023 6:58:12 AM (No. 1462349)
What happened to "Freedom of Religion" in this country?
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Reply 35 - Posted by: EQKimball 5/4/2023 9:07:01 AM (No. 1462439)
Hmm. If a sanctuary candle in Catholic hospital chapels are dangerous, I wonder what it thinks about stove and water heater pilot lights in most hospital kitchens and utility rooms.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: Strike3 5/4/2023 9:10:04 AM (No. 1462445)
How much does it take for your Outrage Meter to become overloaded and broken? When churches caved to the COVID scam they relinquished all ability to oppose the evil cabal that stole this country from real Americans. As #2 mentions, Christianity is on the ropes but Islam is welcomed with open arms only 22 years after 09/11/2001.
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Reply 37 - Posted by: tootall 5/4/2023 10:01:04 AM (No. 1462493)
'Chevron' case before the SCOTUS can't come soon enough.
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Reply 38 - Posted by: moebellini3 5/4/2023 10:41:12 AM (No. 1462515)
Communism and atheism have taken over this country. Every scum democrat has turned to devil worship. They have created a satanic cult within our government. They believe pedophiles can indoctrinate your children in public schools, filling their minds with filth, while at the same time denying a Catholic Hospital the right to keep a candle lit, and while it is in an enclosed container. Absolutely pathetic.
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Reply 39 - Posted by: Faithfully 5/4/2023 7:15:03 PM (No. 1462885)
9 Biden is not behind this. Jill and her friends, yes.
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