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Posted By: Big Bopper, 8/7/2022 11:26:43 AM

“My body, my choice” is a favorite slogan of abortion advocates. It’s thin gruel. To the extent this slogan is an analysis and not just a chant, it assumes the conclusion. It assumes that a fetus anywhere from hours old to nearly born is simply owned in a legal property sense by the mother in whom it resides. But that’s the whole question, right? That question is not answered by just determining the location of the fetus. If it were, then a mother wrapping her arms around her baby or toddler or husband could make the same argument; “My body, my choice.”

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Reply 1 - Posted by: udanja99 8/7/2022 12:56:35 PM (No. 1240709)
You were doing well right up to the last paragraph, Glenn. And then you blew it. If a fertilized human egg is not a human, what is it?
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Catherine 8/7/2022 1:36:51 PM (No. 1240733)
Not only do people, mostly men it seems, want to be in the middle of a sexual act between a man and woman, now some are thinking birth control should be denied women. Are you hearing yourselves? A woman does not lose all her rights if a conception happens. She should also be allowed any other form or birth control she can use. But for whatever reason, many think it's their right to give orders to women. She has none.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: DVC 8/7/2022 3:16:01 PM (No. 1240802)
I liked his points right up to where "we don't have public executions, either". I think we'd be better off if we did have public executions for these vicious killers.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Timber Queen 8/7/2022 4:26:19 PM (No. 1240849)
Oral contraceptives prevent a fertilized egg, which has already begun the cycle of life, from implanting into the wall of the mother's uterus and produces a spontaneous abortion. Millions of American women conceive a child each year and never know. There are many other safe ways to prevent conception, but they take thought and prior action. This kind of care and consideration for one's lover and partner usually occurs in a life-long committed relationship such as marriage. In our broken society, the best we can do is to pass laws that try to put limits on the evil that is allowed. Even without "the pill", people will still be able to access condoms, iud's, other devices, and watching cycles. There could also be an emphasis on a culture of life and adoption. That would be refreshing.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Timber Queen 8/7/2022 4:28:35 PM (No. 1240852)
Pardon the second post. But, does #2 consider abortion birth control?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: pearlyjo 8/7/2022 4:38:14 PM (No. 1240863)
Yes, #2, just unborn women should lose their rights. We born women are sure tough, showing those little babies who’s boss. Men like birth control and abortion, makes them free as a bird. It’s we ladies who shoulder the physical and mental side effects. But, that’s the price of freedom of choice, keeping those men unaccountable. And yes, it does seem you include abortion as an accepted form of birth control.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Catherine 8/7/2022 5:44:15 PM (No. 1240897)
It's hard to really know someone by a few sentences. No, # 6, I would never countenance abortion as birth control. I remember decades ago when Billie Jean King had an abortion because she said she didn't have time to have a baby. And there was an actress, Paula Prentiss, who said she had one because it wasn't going to be the right sex. There is no excuse for these abortions. These women both had time and money. I'm speaking to women who don't have a comfortable life, women who have bad men in their lives, women who have children already they can't support. Life is not pretty for a lot of people and I don't think some here understand that's where I'm coming from. But no one should have the right to determine whether someone they don't know should be able to end a pregnancy.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Citoyen 8/7/2022 6:27:40 PM (No. 1240923)
#7, It is not a particular person who has the right to determine whether someone they don't know should be able to end a pregnancy. It is society that has the right to determine that. It is not mostly men who are working to curtail the absolute right to an abortion. Women are far more likely to be anti-abortion than are men. As we move forward after the Court invalidated the ridiculous Roe V. Wade, each state will democratically decide its own abortion policy. This author wants no abortion after 15 weeks, which is my position, but if the majority wants a tighter schedule, that's fine with me.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: pearlyjo 8/7/2022 7:42:49 PM (No. 1240971)
This is my last comment p, I promise. By your own statement #7, you have no right to judge either King or Prentiss for their decisions to abort. It’s not your place to tell them their motives are wrong. You say no one should say whether or not someone they don’t know should have an abortion and yet, you did just that.
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