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Tennessee couple sues state after allegedly
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Posted By: bamapreacher, 1/22/2022 9:27:58 AM

A Tennessee couple is suing the state's Department of Children's Services after they say they were denied services by a state-funded program because of their Jewish faith. Elizabeth and Gabriel Rutan-Ram were trying to complete the state's mandatory foster parent certification process in order to adopt when they were denied training services (snip). The Rutan-Rams said they were hoping to adopt a young boy with a disability from Florida, but had to go through their state's foster-to-adopt certification before Florida authorities could allow them guardianship. They were then directed by the state to Holston United Methodist Home for Children

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So if Jesus had been up for adoption the Methodists wouldn’t have let Mary and Joseph adopt Him. No wonder that denomination is breaking apart.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: zephyrgirl 1/22/2022 9:44:42 AM (No. 1047209)
There are other faith-based providers who provide training, and these two were not denied training, or the right to adopt (they've since adopted a girl). Their beef is that they wanted the training in one particular area and at a particular time so that they could adopt a particular boy. This case smacks of entitled millenials who didn't get their way. Sometimes things don't work out the way you want. That's life.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: keep_right 1/22/2022 9:56:15 AM (No. 1047223)
Misleading headline. The couple should seek assistance from an adoption service that doesn't require compliance with a specific denomination. If the shoe were on a different foot (Jewish agency denying a Christian couple...or a Buddhist couple...or Muslim couple), there should be no lawsuit.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: lostinmassachusetts 1/22/2022 9:58:11 AM (No. 1047226)
I suspect there may be more to this story than we have been told.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: LadyHen 1/22/2022 9:59:19 AM (No. 1047228)
As we know, NBC is fake news.. there is more to this story. How far a net did they spread when looking for an agency that would help? Jewish Family Services is here in Nashville and has been over 50 years. Not every county in Tennessee is going to have an agency and especially one that provides services for every faith. We are a mostly rural state and even some of our cities aren't that big. I'm with #1 here. I know adoptive parents and they spent years, thousands of dollars, and lots of sweat getting all their ducks in a row to adopt their children. I don't know that it should be as hard and expensive as it is but we are dealing with the lives of children here so maybe so just to weed out that bad parents.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: columba 1/22/2022 10:13:19 AM (No. 1047248)
There has to be a reason behind religion for this.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: TexaTucky 1/22/2022 10:16:10 AM (No. 1047252)
This is like suing the homeowner's association for enforcing the association rules you agreed to when you bought your house but thought the prohibition against painting your house Smurf blue didn't apply to you . . . . . . and then crying to the media that the association is racist against Smurfs.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: MDConservative 1/22/2022 10:33:05 AM (No. 1047276)
It's always "for the children"...on both sides of the issue. And who ultimately "suffers" from all this? It isn't the agency, nor the prospective adoptive parents. Seems there is "a young boy with a disability " involved.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Maggie2u 1/22/2022 10:34:28 AM (No. 1047277)
I wonder if the Methodist Home for Children lets homosexuals adopt children?
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Bison65 1/22/2022 10:58:27 AM (No. 1047308)
Smelling a bit of fake news here.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: cor-vet 1/22/2022 11:05:28 AM (No. 1047316)
40+ years ago, the wife & I adopted our two children. Catholic Charities would only talk to us if we were Catholic. The Baptists would only talk to Baptists and the Jews wouldn't talk to any Gentile, period. The children would grow up in a foster home before they could ever be adopted by a couple of a different faith than the one represented by the adoption agency. They weren't worried about the child! Also, the adoption fee, at least for Catholic Charities, was 7% of your W2 form income, to the penny. You could pick up the child when the check cleared. They definetly weren't worried about the 'children!' A group called Volunteers of America were the only non-denominational adoption agency in New Orleans back then. I don't know if anything has changed, but with the woke culture, it looks like any screw-up can adopt, even our secretary of transportation and his husband!
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Reply 11 - Posted by: DVC 1/22/2022 11:14:36 AM (No. 1047333)
Homosexual perverts had given children, and yet normal people who happen to be Jews are prohibited? Another example of evil.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: mossley 1/22/2022 11:20:08 AM (No. 1047345)
I suspect they did this deliberately so they could challenge the law that lets faith-based organizations screen couples for adoptions.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: sunshinehorses 1/22/2022 11:21:36 AM (No. 1047349)
Not faith based but years ago hubby and I wanted to adopt and went through all of the classes in AZ. However we were told that no children will probably be placed with us because we were white and all of the kids available were black, Mexican or mixed and they would only place kids with like races. AZ lost most of their foster homes over that policy and had to change it - too late for us as we had moved back to IA. Went through the same classes in Iowa, but when it came to the home inspection, because hubby and I had DUIs from we were young and stupid (over 20 yrs before) AND we had beer in the fridge, the worker denied us. I protested, but her boss was just as bad. We would have given kids a good home as we had a huge house on a farm and lots of love to give. We already had 5 kids of our own that were mostly grown and just wanted more.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: TLCary 1/22/2022 12:47:37 PM (No. 1047443)
Holston United Methodist Home for Children is a Christian organization offering services to members of their faith, services that are also available from the State of TN at other locations. If they violate their requirement of values they would then become a Christian organization that must help place kids in homosexual homes, or with Satanist, parents to be raised as good little Satanists. Before that happens, I am certain that they would stop offering their services altogether. It's a slippery slope, a precedence, and a trap they didn't fall for.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Faithfully 1/23/2022 7:24:50 PM (No. 1048614)
It is better for the child to be adopted rather than fostered. Foster children are not allowed to call their FP's mum and dad. They have no roots and know they can be switched at any time. Horrible way to treat children.
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