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The Vaccine: Experimental Times Two

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Posted By: Magnante, 8/9/2021 9:04:42 AM

If you don’t think vaccines are one of the great achievements of Western Civilization, just take a walk through a 19th-century cemetery and witness the reality of the human condition before them. However, the COVID vaccine is not a traditional vaccine. It is, instead, a huge experiment that can have major negative consequences and that our institutions are nevertheless trying to make mandatory. (snip) they are an extraordinary achievement in molecular biology. However, if not for mass censorship, it would be stunningly clear that the COVID vaccines have been causing an unacceptable level of adverse reactions, especially for a virus with a death rate of only .5%.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: red1066 8/9/2021 9:23:54 AM (No. 872758)
Like the whole Covid kabuki dance we've been subjected to for the last year and a half, the vaccine is part of the dance. No real answers to some very real questions, and a lot of miss direction. While the vaccine does protect a person from getting Covid, it only protects a person against one protein of the virus. Each variant has a different protein. So the vaccine we have works against the Covid virus of 2020, not the versions of the virus that come along later. It will give some protection, but it won't eliminate the chance of getting another version of Covid. Will the vaccine people come up with a vaccine that protects against all variants? Probably not. Just like the flu vaccine, a new one comes along each year, and the vaccine that worked last year might not work as well this year. We don't have masks orders for the flu or shut down businesses because of the flu. The same response should be our approach to Covid.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: BarryNo 8/9/2021 9:42:45 AM (No. 872794)
As I understand it, Pfizer and Moderna lost their entire control group needed for FDA testing and approval. Someone decided, that since the vaccines were released on an emergency basis, that they could tell the control group they hadnt gotten the vaccine. So they all went out and got their shots, and voided the control groups. So if the FDA does approve it this month, it'll just prove you cant trust ANY of these government departments you rely on for public safety.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: bad-hair 8/9/2021 9:44:09 AM (No. 872798)
Get the vaccine. You probably won't die from COVID. You will absolutely die from COVID or something else. Glad I got my Plane Crash Vaccination. It works.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: slipstik 8/9/2021 9:51:13 AM (No. 872813)
"Huck" obviously has his facts at hand. Sars2 covid has been under development since 2002. It is covered under thousands of US patents thru 2019. Chapel Hill UNC did most of the work. It was weaponized by DARPA in 2008.. It was unleashed on the world around 2018. The "vaccine" is a neurotoxin with unknown effects. Just read what Huck tells you. Why was this done? 1. To deal incalculable profits for pharma investors. 2. To create a."new normal" where humanity all shuffles along, in the same direction, at the same rate, if they know what's good for them. People! Do you not realize that this vax isn't working? CDC has been moving dead bodies all over every database tryna keep this from us. Now the fauci monster wants FDA to fully approve. People who take this stuff keep getting sick. My polio vax in the 50's PREVENTED polio, it didn't lead to an easier polio existence like dragging a leg.for 5 years WAKE UP!!!!
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Surroundedbyblue 8/9/2021 11:06:32 AM (No. 872915)
#6 - if you vaccinate the control group, how exactly do you check on long term differences between the vaccinated and unvaccinated? What if, in say 6 months, vaccinated people start getting sick, or dying from blood clots, or need hospitalization? Without a control group, you’d not have a comparison point to see if it the “vaccine”. Maybe the coming booster shots are their attempt to correct whatever the initial vaccines are screwing up in people. The booster is a “vaccine” for the “vaccine”?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: PlayItAgain 8/9/2021 11:10:48 AM (No. 872920)
The pro-vaccine crowd is certain of only one thing: If events don't go as planned, it's not their fault.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: DVC 8/9/2021 11:27:03 AM (No. 872946)
If you look, especially in Israeli sources, many which are in English you find all sorts of interesting reports. Like this one. Lots of smart folks who know the technology very well are very worried about long term effects. And six months or a year is NOT even remotely 'long term'. https://sciencewithdrdoug.com/2020/08/01/is-a-coronavirus-vaccine-a-ticking-time-bomb/
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Reply 8 - Posted by: DVC 8/9/2021 11:29:53 AM (No. 872951)
Ah, a new vaccine supporter arises. And this anonymous writer warns us not to trust anonymous writers. Hah, that's rich.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: EJKrausJr 8/9/2021 11:56:20 AM (No. 872987)
The World's population is the clinical trial for the Pfizer, Moderna and J&J covid shots. Who's collecting the data from the effects of the shots? The CDC, come on now. Who?
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Reply 10 - Posted by: joew9 8/9/2021 12:17:22 PM (No. 873020)
*Vaccines usually take 10 years of testing to get approval. This vaccine hasn't even been through the typical 2 years of pre-clinical testing. Pre-clinical is the testing done on animals before tests even begin on a small select number of humans. *There have been vaccines which didn't show a bad side effect at first and was only noticed after several years. The Salk polio vaccine turned out to contain a virus from monkeys that is now inside everyone that got the first two years of the vaccine. That virus causes dementia in people with lowered immune systems and is expected to start effecting the elderly baby boomers soon. A 60 year delay. *I am reminded of Stargate SG-1 S04Ep16 "2010" where the Aschen have provided a serum to cure Earth people of all diseases. But it turns out it has a long term genocidal effect.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Come And Take It 8/9/2021 1:30:01 PM (No. 873098)
Now number 10, you clearly upset the new Vax Karen. Panties are all in a bunch. We have about three of them on here now that only show up to post on vaccine articles where anyone has anything negative to say. This one seems to have a real problem with Sundance over at CTH; probably got banned for spewing Pfizer propaganda. To the new Karen: Take your vax and revel in it. Take mine if you wish. Take a new one every day if you desire. But stop wasting our time will trying to sell it here. If I don't want it, I am not taking it, and I don't give a damn what you or any other vaccine Nazi thinks. You cannot bribe me, shame me, or otherwise convince me to take these injections that are being pushed like nothing I have ever seen before.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Lawsy0 8/9/2021 1:57:42 PM (No. 873126)
Somewhere in middle Tennessee way off the beaten path is a little tiny church cemetery where lie my maternal grandparents. When it is our turn to weed and tend the graves there, and from the time I was very small, I was puzzled by a tiny little statue of a lamb, asleep on a pillow. Before I could read and do math, I sensed it was a child's grave marker. Most of the dates on many head stones end with 1918 or 1919. Mom explained that the big word I couldn't spell was ''influenza.''
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Reply 13 - Posted by: usawatcher 8/9/2021 4:34:05 PM (No. 873293)
Ah #14 it's still a free country, you are not the board censor, and we are all entitled to our opinions...even the one's you might not like. "They" can find you #14...make no mistake about that...and you are probably being watched even now. That buzzing sound you hear...that's a drone spraying a fine mist version of the vaccine over your house....breath deep...:)
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Come And Take It 8/9/2021 4:49:49 PM (No. 873306)
And #17, normally I just ignore your drooling mouth-breathing these days, since you contribute nothing to any discussion anyway. Feel free to post any drivel you wish, but I don't think anyone is inspired by your insipid nonsense. In short, you have been heard, and found to be wanting.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: DVC 8/9/2021 4:51:32 PM (No. 873309)
One vaccine expert has written an opinion piece that she thinks that the entire approach to making a vaccine this new way is not going to work well, and will be unable to deal with virus mutations....which seems to be coming true. Jargon filled, but interesting, IMO. What Would Jenner and Pasteur Have Done About COVID-19 Coronavirus? The Urges of a Vaccinologist https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2020.02173/full
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Reply 16 - Posted by: DVC 8/9/2021 4:53:31 PM (No. 873310)
I still wonder what they pay pro vaccination folks to be rude about it?
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Reply 17 - Posted by: usawatcher 8/9/2021 6:40:49 PM (No. 873410)
That's ok #18...I have been judged by better than you....:) I am just amazed that rational people actually believe some of the nonsense that is put out on the 'Net about it. There are occasions however where the discussions on politics actually touch up the problems and some realistic solutions have been put forth. But then someone will veer off into the fraud thing and trump and it goes totally off the rails. True believers can not be reasoned with or dissuaded from their viewpoints whether it is politics or religion. And it is the true believer who will take an action that will greatly effect us all and we can only hope the action is a positive one. An excellent treatise on that subject was written by Eric Hoffer...called The True Believer.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Aubreyesque 8/9/2021 8:13:38 PM (No. 873489)
Ignore vet poster. Watch the videos at Front Line Doctors.
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