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Did the CDC Director just kill the rationale
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Posted By: cThree, 8/8/2021 5:49:54 AM

Dr. Rochelle Walensky has been making the media rounds. During her most recent appearance on CNN, The Conservative Treehouse caught her making a startling admission: The vaccines neither prevent people from catching COVID nor from spreading COVID. At most, they simply reduce the severity of the symptoms people experience if they do catch COVID. From this statement, Sundance draws the logical conclusion: Why should people get vaccine passports if they are both as contagious and as vulnerable to contagion as their unvaccinated cohorts?

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Reply 1 - Posted by: franq 8/8/2021 6:36:13 AM (No. 871662)
All the vaccines™ do is generate revenue for Big Pharma, while giving the recipients cause for smug sanctimony.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: 5 handicap 8/8/2021 6:45:36 AM (No. 871665)
"Walensky" isn't that Polish for Political hack?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: DCGIRL 8/8/2021 7:00:49 AM (No. 871672)
The flu shot does not prevent you from spreading the or catching the flu. It just lessens the symptoms. I'm not sure that the COVID shot does that much. #1 is correct, someone or many are getting a kickback on the vaccines.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: privateer 8/8/2021 7:36:00 AM (No. 871694)
Considering her service to Gropey Dopey, I'm thinking Lewansky.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Rock 8/8/2021 8:10:36 AM (No. 871705)
#1. I wish that's all they did. They grow government, reduces liberty, free speech and create a larger, more aggressive Marxist state, among a host of other, more damaging things than grow many, many billions into trillions.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Kafka2 8/8/2021 8:20:06 AM (No. 871715)
As I understand the CDC director, while The Covid-19 vaccines do not prevent people from getting Covid-19, they do make the infection much milder and survivable. This raises a very important question. If you catch Covid-19 after getting the vaccine, do you then acquire natural immunity? If so, this would be GREAT! The Israelies have studied natural immunity and determined that it provides greater immunity to other variants than the vaccines, not just the original one. The CDC should be considering a two stage process. Get the vaccine to greatly improve Survivability. Then, get infected with the virus to build Natural Immunity. It did not sound like the CDC has even thought of this possibility.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: frew 8/8/2021 8:40:31 AM (No. 871740)
Walensky was not saying that the vaccines don't prevent infections. The vaccines do prevent infection. The vast majority of new infections are in the unvaccinated. They are not perfect, they provide 95% protection, so some vaccinated do get infected, but the chances of going without infection are much much better with the vaccine. Healthy people under 50 are now getting the infection and dying. It's time to drop the vaccine resistance.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: cThree 8/8/2021 8:43:21 AM (No. 871743)
Ms Widburg goes beyond the fraudulent case for masking to link to a powerful essay by Rabbi Michael Baclay in PJ Media, "The Yellow Badge of Vaccines" (She tips her hat to Sundance at Conservative Treehouse). The Rabbi writes, Required public markings of shame have always led to persecution, yet more and more local and state authorities and businesses are requiring these “yellow badges” (as an example, it is impossible for the non-vaccinated to go on any number of vacations including cruises from California), and these requirements, God forbid, may become federal law. What concerns me most are the parallels to the authoritarian regimes of history. Almost every time, for two millennia, these markings for one group of people have led to institutionalized persecution.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 8/8/2021 8:55:50 AM (No. 871750)
None of this is about disease prevention and protecting people. Its all about control and making wealth. The people in charge have to intention of letting things go back to normal. There are millions of bugs out there. Many of them contagious. Some of them quite lethal. Its been this way for millennia. Now we are going to stop the spread of a disease. Most of the time that does not work. The disease runs its course. The survivors develop immunity. The only way people can go about their lives is if they are largely ignorant of the dangers around them. If you knew how bad things were, you would likely lock yourself up inside your house which is exactly what our governing 'leaders' want.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: bigfatslob 8/8/2021 8:56:08 AM (No. 871751)
This is exactly what happened to my oldest daughter two weeks ago. She received the vaccines to be able to travel with her husband. They were planning a trip to Greece early next year. She works in an environment that she has to mask up also. On a weekend my daughter with five friends went to a camp house on a waterfront. My daughter became fatigued with a headache then started running a temperature or low fever. When she returned home she tested positive for Covid-19. Her husband and two stepdaughters tested negative while separating in their home. There's your proof the vaccine prevents nothing. The surprising thing is this happened to my daughter in law (works in hospital therapy) in 2020 she tested positive but my son and two grandsons tested negative in the same house.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Strike3 8/8/2021 8:57:05 AM (No. 871753)
They speak of rationale yet the only way to avoid being persecuted, restricted and harassed about this vaccine is to sneak into Mexico and walk back across the border into the US. You receive free hotel accomodations and a flight to the city of your choice. Somebody is crazy and I don't think it's me.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: montwoodcliff 8/8/2021 8:57:58 AM (No. 871755)
The vaccine is the sacrament of the Democrat religion.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: red1066 8/8/2021 9:03:52 AM (No. 871760)
Those who have gotten Covid have far better protection against any Covid variant than those who have received the vaccine. The vaccine protects one against one protein of the virus, while those who have gotten Covid, have multiple proteins to protect them from any new Covid variant.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: TLCary 8/8/2021 9:17:08 AM (No. 871771)
Brilliant! Everyone gets the mRNA symptom suppressor. Everyone continually catches and transmits the virus. Everyone has to get booster jab every few months. Big Pharma gets to sell its solution to the problem it keeps perpetuating, forever. You have to get the he booster shots or you get removed from society and a chance to die from the virus. It's the best long term business model the world has ever seen.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Kafka2 8/8/2021 9:30:17 AM (No. 871782)
The CDC and the MSM have been spreading misleading information. A case is any test for Covid-19 that is positive. If a person gets a positive result, it counts as a case. If a person gets a positive result, but has mild or no symptoms, it counts as a case. If a person gets a false positive result, it counts as a case If a person gets tested five times with positive results it counts as five cases. As you can see there are many reasons the number of cases is inflated. Thus, it gives a distorted picture. The important numbers are those cases that require hospitalization and those that result in death. There is even some distortion in these numbers. People being treated for other severe medical conditions that later test positive are listed as Covid cases without mention of the other severe medical conditions.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: slsusnr 8/8/2021 9:38:11 AM (No. 871788)
#13, What happened to abortion? Not as useful as COVID-19 to manipulate people and stir up the "militants?"
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Lawsy0 8/8/2021 10:15:03 AM (No. 871806)
I am sorta kinda wondering if I could sue my PCP for insisting I get the vax, given my age and comorbidities. But he'd turn right around and sue me for being so damn gullible. But all that aside; I do not believe that ANY politician who took the vax in front of a camera was really getting anything other than a placebo, and only for publicity purposes. There. How ya like them apples?
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Reply 18 - Posted by: janjan 8/8/2021 10:34:09 AM (No. 871823)
Anyone still haplessly trying to follow the dictates of the CDC not only have whiplash they have a screw loose.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: TexaTucky 8/8/2021 10:36:56 AM (No. 871828)
#8, if your assertions were true (or provable), there would be no need to harangue people to submit to medical testing of an unproven drug . . . unless, subconsciously, one were trying to justify his own irrevocable actions.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: darnright 8/8/2021 10:54:40 AM (No. 871841)
After reading all the posts on this thread, am I to believe that no one here, or at least the vast majority, has not and will not get vaccinated? My wife and I did and we are very glad we did. We also get a flu shot every year and just went through the shingles series. We felt at the time that it was Donald John Trump that brought us this vaccine and we trust him. We may have felt differently if it was the Biden tribe that was behind getting the vaccine out there. We don't trust anything about that outfit. Just my two cents...
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Reply 21 - Posted by: EJKrausJr 8/8/2021 10:59:36 AM (No. 871845)
The Covid Shots (they're not vaccines like the polio, measles, mumps vaccines) are like the yearly flu shots. You could still get the flu after taking a flu shot. Same as the Covid shots. Fear porn is presented daily by Biden's minions. Masking mandates are tests for control of the population. Lockdowns are actual control. Biden likes both.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Zigrid 8/8/2021 11:03:29 AM (No. 871852)
I have several medical people in my collection of children...and they have assured me the vaccine is sound protection... the delta mutation is a weaker strain and therefore less lethal...I feel protected in all quarters... whether shopping or restauranting or visiting my biden/obama's attempt at scaring the population is phony... it is to benefit the big Pharma companies that are raking in the Pelosi those that contract the china bio/weapon virus...I suggest you look to hydroxychloroquine..a great alternative and very cheap...
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Reply 23 - Posted by: darnright 8/8/2021 11:04:46 AM (No. 871855)
18 - So you actually believe that Donald Trump was lying to the American people when he got the vaccine? He and his family did not actually get the shot? Is this what you are really saying to me?
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Timber Queen 8/8/2021 11:34:51 AM (No. 871916)
I'm hoping the "vaccine passport" is the pulled thread that unravels this prog carpet of lies. Eventually the truth will come out. It always does, and when it does people will realize they were betrayed by those in authority they trusted. Whether that trust was warranted in the first place doesn't matter to the one betrayed. There will remain true believers who refuse to accept the truth, but the vast majority will have to deal with the fact that they have become walking medical experiments carrying biologic time bombs. That reality is going to be devastating to individuals, families, communities and our society at large. God help us.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: Speedypetey 8/8/2021 11:35:13 AM (No. 871917)
If the injections work, why a passport. If these shots don't work, then why a passport?
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Reply 26 - Posted by: PrayerWarrior 8/8/2021 11:38:27 AM (No. 871923)
This vaccine has made many Billionaires in Big Pharma. (and probably paid off many politicians) And they are immune from lawsuits! What a deal! At our house, for us, we have claimed divine protection from this virus, it's Psalm 91:10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any PLAGUE come nigh thy dwelling....v,11 for He shall give His angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways (KJ). Because verse 2 says the Lord is my refuge, my fortress, my God, in Him will I trust. To others of faith, we say, Fear Not, stand on God's Word, and trust Him in these last days.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: Kate318 8/8/2021 12:18:15 PM (No. 871981)
You know how you can tell what the truth is? Look at all the trolls that show up for vaccination threads.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Zumkopf 8/8/2021 12:56:13 PM (No. 872028)
Weird. First they stifle all news about any effective treatments for COVID, claiming that the vaccine is the one and only answer (and also because Trump touted some of the treatments). Then they don't announce until a (convenient) week after the election that they have a successful vaccine (too late to do Trump's popularity any good). Then they claim that the vaccine isn't helping because Republicans aren't taking it (again somehow Trump's fault), only to have to sheepishly admit that utilization is actually far lower in the cities, especially among the black community, hardly a Republican constituency. Finally they have to admit that the vaccine neither prevents a vaccinee from getting COVID, nor from spreading COVID, but at best ameliorates the symptoms -- which is less of a big deal since the Indian Delta variant is less virulent and treatments have vastly improved. But somehow the answer is to demand lockdowns and vaccine passports anyway -- lockdowns that previously utterly failed, and at enormous economic, social, developmental and mental costs; and passports for a vaccine that does nothing to slow the spread of COVID in the first place -- and all the while denying Settled Science (TM) showing that naturally-acquired immunity is indeed better than that induced by the vaccine (a vaccine which in itself works by provoking exactly the same immune response that the body produces when encountering the disease itself). It's enough to make you think this is nothing but a power-grab by the Democrats and a huge shill for Big Pharma.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: Calamity Kate 8/8/2021 2:01:40 PM (No. 872080)
Shamelessly stolen from @catolettters on Twitter: "Imagine claiming if you throw a couple of virgins into the volcano it will stop the volcano. Then when the volcano still erupts, they claim "Yes, but it would have been worse without those sacrifices." We must make more sacrifices because this is the Delta Volcano." It is a wildly immeasurable claim.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: mc squared 8/8/2021 2:34:21 PM (No. 872107)
#31: Especially when the manufacturers blew up their control groups. "This is Nuts, Moderna and Pfizer Intentionally Lost The Clinical Trial Control Group Testing Vaccine Efficacy and Safety "
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Reply 31 - Posted by: msavalla 8/8/2021 4:05:20 PM (No. 872179)
If its ok for Nazi Germany then its ok for the DEMS.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: Strike3 8/8/2021 5:37:32 PM (No. 872253)
Stop reading the conflicting opinions. For some reason an illegitimate government is hell bent on pressuring every citizen to get this vaccine even though it has been around for only a short time and is not approved. That's reason enough for me to refuse it. Just like open borders with sex traffickers, terrorists and drug traffic pouring in from Mexico, the problem can not be reversed.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: 4Justice 8/8/2021 11:04:06 PM (No. 872474)
That is what I have been saying for a long time. Why are they requiring vaccinations for everything if they don't stop the spread and don't protect the vaccinated??
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Advocates for the transgender ideology are admitting they cannot persuade their own progressive allies, or even “persuadable” swing voters, to back their revolutionary goal of suppressing Americans’ recognition of sex differences.“Right now, our opposition wins the debate on trans youth in sports against any and all arguments we have tried for our side,” admits a “Messaging Guide” by the California-based Transgender Law Center.Overall, “we can at best elicit sympathy, a passive and often patronizing attitude that alienates our base [of current supporters] and fails to generate sustained interest from persuadable audiences” of swing voters, said the guide, which is titled “Transgender Youth and the Freedom to Be Ourselves.”
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