Prosecutor, medical examiner discussions underscore
complexity of Derek Chauvin case

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Floyd overdosed and died. He killed himself. It’s as simple as that. At worst the police officer behaved aggressively, but he most certainly didn’t murder him. We truly live in the time Orwell described. "In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."

"Complexity"? No, there is absolutely no complexity at all. Read the autopsy report. It says that Floyd died of a drug overdose which was compounded by a heart attack due to multiple clogged coronary arteries. Both the opiates and the heart attack have symptoms of causing breathing difficulties. The autopsy specifically looked very closely for signs of neck, throat, windpipe area trauma and found none at all. All else is just a smoke screen of racist hate against officers who were working to keep him alive, not to kill him, and who followed their training exactly. The only complexity is all the lies that have been thrown up around this. The facts are simple.

Lies are complex, the truth is simple and will set you free.

Read on and you’ll find this: On May 31, Baker again videoconferenced with assistant Hennepin County attorneys Patrick Lofton and Amy Sweasy and walked them through Floyd's toxicology results, which showed the presence of the potent synthetic opioid fentanyl and methamphetamine in his blood stream, according to the documents. He told them if Floyd had been found dead at home "and there were no other contributing factors" he would have concluded that the death was from an overdose, according to a summary. and According to court documents, in a meeting with the FBI, Baker said he could not say whether Floyd would have lived "but for" the officers' use of force. "Baker did not believe that the prone position was any more dangerous than other positions based on an article or journal he had read," said a summary of the meeting. However, he also said in the same meeting that the exertion of the arrest was "more than Floyd could tolerate" and likely increased his heart rate and adrenaline levels while placing greater demand on his breathing. It’s early days in this trial. The jurors have heard about “excited delirium”. There will be more on this in the days to come as the defense presents its case. For a course in excited delirium, here are several articles. One on this trial and another with information that can be found via search: EXPLAINER: What is excited delirium? https://apnews.com/article/trials-minneapolis-death-of-george-floyd-racial-injustice-35e352d64b416d3c878cd6555dba94c2 Excited Delirium and Sudden Death: A Syndromal Disorder at the Extreme End of the Neuropsychiatric Continuum https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5061757/

You take the victim as he comes. That's basic. Shooting someone dead in their death throes of cancer is still murder. Read down to the end: "Prosecutors only have to show that Chauvin's actions were a 'substantial causal factor' in Floyd's death even if other issues contributed to it, according to Minnesota guidelines for jury instructions." Therein lies the argument, and possibly "reasonable doubt."

I'm amused by the fact that the pulmonologist is a smoker! Look at his mustache to se the tobacco stains. He also is in denial about the dangers of smoking - he testified that 90 percent of smokers suffer no lung damage.

The "complexity" is that Officer Chauvin is completely innocent. Innocence - - what a horrible monkey wrench in the "white supremacy" agenda. Ooops - - am I allowed to write "monkey wrench" in this context?

to all who are experts in controlling under the influence combative arrestees (#6 et al), St Floyd was, I believe 6'6" and 260 pounds, Chauvin reportedly 5'9" and 140. What are your suggestions for controlling such an arrestee, kind words, a teddy bear? Floyd, was according to a number of experts, ' a dead man walking'. One prosecution expert testified that Floyd died due to a lack of oxygen - no s#$t, his lungs were full of fluid due to the triple fatal level of drugs in his system. I have used significant force any number of times to control combative individuals and it wasn't always pretty, but I survived and so did the suspects, although one very nearly died (from an overdose) on the way to the hospital. So, absent personal knowledge and experience in controlling combative, hysterical or under the influence individuals why not stay off the liberal bandwagon for a while and try to put yourself in the position of the people who you call when you feel you or others are in danger and expect them to resolve the issue. BTW, resolving the issue may bruise the typical snowflakes sensibilities and certainly will enflame the fake media, most politicians, and all of the blm, antifa peaceful folks out there. So, having said all that, hope you enjoy the decrease in numbers of police in your bright blue areas and good luck in finding honest, large enough to do the job replacements. I'm sure that the gang bangers, antifa types and gender studies grads will do a fine job for you.

Thanks, #5. Late comers to the 'party' do need to be aware of the well known pathological trajectory of a person in excited delirium, and that Officer Chauvin mentioned it on the video, and the position he put Floyd in was precisely as the MPD training manual taught them to put a patient into when in excited delirium. And that position was specifically created by Minneapolis Medical School staff who did a large research project on what was the safest restraint position for a person in excited delirium. That is where the MPD manual and training on this position originated.

Is there a limit to how many people can testify for the prosecution? It's been an endless parade of people who were are just expressing their opinions based on media reports. Very few were on the scene, except the obnoxious crowd members who hurled obscenities at the police.

It reads as if he was immediately called upon for the predetermined decision and waffled back and forth between fighting that and throwing them a bone.