Student Debt is a Curse Upon America's
Future. Biden Must Wipe It Out—All Of It
Newsweek,
by
Astra Taylor
Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog,
1/25/2021 9:48:42 AM
On Wednesday, President Joe Biden's first day in office, one hundred people calling themselves the Biden Jubilee 100 declared themselves to be on a student debt strike. They represent a growing movement of debtors who are demanding that the new administration take bold action to cancel all student loans during its first one hundred days. They also represent the estimated 45 million people in this country who hold a combined $1.7 trillion in student debt. There's a broad consensus that student debt has reached crisis proportions in this country. In 2012, when Joe Biden was Vice President, student debt surpassed
Reply 1 - Posted by:
WhamDBambam 1/25/2021 9:49:57 AM (No. 673714)
And those of us who paid full fare were just suckers.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
TruthFetish 1/25/2021 9:54:38 AM (No. 673721)
Welfare for humanities professors. And we know which party they vote for.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Jerseyden 1/25/2021 9:55:27 AM (No. 673722)
Tell me where future student loans will come from. Bankers may seem greedy but they are not stupid. The problem is typically democratic in they always want something for nothing and will cheat and steal to get it.
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JL80863 1/25/2021 9:57:07 AM (No. 673727)
You can bet Ms. Astra is a liberal/dem and participant in the post-high school freeloader phenom.
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Charge it back to the colleges/universities. They're the crooks!
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
DARling 1/25/2021 10:02:03 AM (No. 673737)
My kids went to state schools instead of going for vanity degrees from high-priced private universities. My spouse and I paid for whatever was not covered by scholarships, which was a decent chunk of change. A lot of students take out more loans than they need and get nicer apartments and even some money to party on. Why should we have to pay for the education and spring break trips of irresponsible wastrels?
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
john56 1/25/2021 10:14:54 AM (No. 673750)
Hey, I'm fine with that. Just started taking out loans for my kid's college. $20 grand a year (well, at least he's at a good, "less-liberal" Christian college and studying Nursing, and not German Folklore and Basket Weaving). Just let me know when I can send Sleepy Creepy Crooked Uncle Joe the bill.
Oops. I forgot. Everytiime there's a "free stuff" bill, there's always a line at the bottom of it. Says something like "John, you ain't getting a dime of this stuff. But you get to pay for it."
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anniebc 1/25/2021 10:18:26 AM (No. 673757)
Poster #6 is right on. Both my children went to state schools in NC, and we paid their tuition without the help of loans. I was surprised to find out that both my children had taken out side loans just because they could. The colleges prey on the students as much as evil credit card companies. I just hope against hope that those with loans cancelled make the connection with their increase in taxes.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Nimby 1/25/2021 10:20:47 AM (No. 673761)
First, pay back what honest students paid, + the interest, and then do whatever.
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Rather Read 1/25/2021 10:28:03 AM (No. 673772)
I wish we could go back to my undergraduate years. Using the inflation calculator, I paid about 840.00 per semester and more in books and lab fees, but by working part time in the semester and full time in the summer, I graduated with no debt. This was in the 1970's and the rot hadn't set in yet.
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SweetSweetback 1/25/2021 10:34:39 AM (No. 673779)
How about all of us poor saps who had to put our shoulders to the wheel and toil to pay off our student loans, and these idiots with the worthless Gender Studies, Comparative Cultures, Philosophy, and Black/Chicano Studies degrees can get a free pass?
To everyone who paid their loans off with much struggle and sacrifice, WE DEMAND REPARATIONS!
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
marbles 1/25/2021 10:43:51 AM (No. 673789)
How about all debt held by everyone ? You are not forced to borrow money, you do so willingly and sign an agreement to pay it back. What make student so special ? Trying to buy votes? You dont have to, you control the count.
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zek 1/25/2021 10:46:55 AM (No. 673792)
How this ridiculous idea even gets any traction is beyond me. It is blatantly unfair.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
justavoter 1/25/2021 10:49:16 AM (No. 673794)
Lets just cancel all mortgages while we are at it. Of course the way things are going we may be headed there and everyone will turn over their property to the government and pay rent.
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klezmer 1/25/2021 10:50:57 AM (No. 673797)
Can you wipe out my car loan while your at it? Mortgage? How about my credit cards?
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Bur Oak 1/25/2021 10:52:22 AM (No. 673798)
Democrat politicians and GOPe rewarding deadbeats. I should have said deadbeats rewarding their own.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Anti_democRAT 1/25/2021 11:02:02 AM (No. 673808)
The mouse never questioned why the cheese was free. Whack!!
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
edgar 1/25/2021 11:02:48 AM (No. 673810)
This is slavery! Why am I required to pay your debt?
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Boy, am I a sucker. I joined the US Army, got shot up pretty good, and paid cash for my college education.
Paid cash for my kid's education, too.
What a horrible country we live in. It punishes hard work, thriftiness, and patriotism.
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LanceLink1 1/25/2021 11:18:37 AM (No. 673830)
So who is going to eat $1,700,000,000,000 in debt? Bezos? Gates? Zuckerberg? That kind of money just doesn't just magically go away. The taxpayer? I've a hint for you - it starts with the four trillion in your 401k and IRAs you worked for the democrats will change the laws so as to dip into your pockets again. You watch.......
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Melanie 1/25/2021 11:31:30 AM (No. 673846)
Paid off our cars. Paid off our house. Paid off our college loans. Where do we sign up for Law Abiding Suckers Anonymous?
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
DVC 1/25/2021 11:32:20 AM (No. 673849)
So, "the government" just pays off billions so that the slugs who didn't save or work to pay for their college get a free ride?
Very bad, very destructive idea. Going to college is a bad idea for most people. Wasting lots of money to get brainwashed into hating your country. Only the few tech-career sort of degrees are worth getting. Engineering, medicine, accounting, some of the sciences.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
pmcclure 1/25/2021 11:34:03 AM (No. 673853)
Sheer baloney! American taxpayers MUST continue to support the indoctrination factories.
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MindMadeUp 1/25/2021 11:42:14 AM (No. 673865)
Yep, free college. Next it's "free" housing, food, gasoline, entertainment, and peanuts. It's called "Marxism", which is modern feudalism. The king, I mean government, owns everything and decides who gets it. And the ones who get most of it always turns out to be the ones who run the government. The rest of us get peanuts.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
LeeBertie 1/25/2021 11:47:14 AM (No. 673874)
Can we "wipe out" FUTURE student debt as well?
What a concept THAT would be. Pay for college 100% with loans then just sit back and watch every one of them be forgiven.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
SilkCity 1/25/2021 11:56:52 AM (No. 673886)
With a 1099, if so
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
TXspyder 1/25/2021 12:05:26 PM (No. 673899)
Take it out of the school's endowment!!!!!!!!
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
MDConservative 1/25/2021 12:24:17 PM (No. 673924)
What's that whirrrrrrr I hear coming from the Bureau of Printing and Engraving?
It's rich that $1.7 trillion will wipe it all out, and conservtives are whining.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
starsNstripes 1/25/2021 12:25:39 PM (No. 673926)
ELECTION FRAUD is a Curse Upon America's Future. Biden Must Wipe It Out—All Of It.
--there I fixed the headline. You are welcome.
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MDConservative 1/25/2021 12:27:33 PM (No. 673928)
Re #28, to finish:
There was not much compelling when PDT signed trillions away for "stimulus", and a fair amount when Mitch balked at handing out two grand a head. Hey, it's only paper and numbers at this point. What's a dollar worth, anyways? Anybody?
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oldmagnolia 1/25/2021 12:36:08 PM (No. 673934)
OK L Dotters. I agree with all of you but I will put here another take. If we are sending billions of dollars to foreign nations for nothing, why not using some of those billions to cancel our own debts? I know is crazy but I welcome your comments.
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RuckusTom 1/25/2021 12:54:08 PM (No. 673952)
Let's get our national debt up to $30 trillion (we're going to anyway). Just keep in mind that the main way to take excess cash out of the economy to avoid inflation is to raise interest rates. And there's a huge difference between 0% interest on $30 trillion and 20% or 30% interest on $30 trillion. If countries around the world decide to drop the US $ as their exchange currency and we get a flood of dollars coming back home, get the wheel barrel out. You'll need it to by a loaf of bread.
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iraengneer 1/25/2021 12:57:32 PM (No. 673958)
First, as some of us recall, it used to be understood that roughly 10 per cent of high school graduates, 12 per cent at most, have ANY business being in a real college. Not all, not most. A few. Having encountered students, and, yes, graduates of colleges who Can Not READ!, that figure makes sense. (And, yes, I realize that EEOC idiocy and the lefty loons in most HR departments require a BA to gain employment counting fuzz on caterpillars. Still holds).
Like some here, I worked full time and often a 2nd job, pursuing an engineering degree part time. Took longer than 4 years, but I had to pay rent, buy food and clothes, etc. Ditto for several of my classmates.. Graduated with zero student debt. While our daughters denounced us, and ran up huge debts on nice apartments, newer cars than mine, and expensive Spring Break vacations. All on top of the tuition, fees,, books,, supplies,, computers,, etc.. Pricy,, even in SEC institutions. Now we're evil for not paying it off for them.
Multiply by many.
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paral04 1/25/2021 1:12:35 PM (No. 673976)
If they do that then they will have to stop guaranteeing student loans and only people who can afford college can go. That should lower tuition as the law of supply and demand will rule. Too many students have taken out loans to get useless degrees at over price3d institutions only to find out that they qualify to be a bar tender.
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Geoman 1/25/2021 1:16:21 PM (No. 673982)
The communists have to keep their voluntary indoctrination factories going. I put myself and three kids through college by sever decades of sacrificing things wanted for things that were needed. Colleges and universities need to add several Deferred Gratification courses to their graduation requirements.
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DVC 1/25/2021 1:40:09 PM (No. 674013)
"Astra Taylor"? Some people have really nutty names these days. The premise is wrong at the root. And is "Astra" a male or female or dingbat-who-can't-tell name?
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skacmar 1/25/2021 2:02:05 PM (No. 674042)
So my housepainter son who did not go to college gets to pay off the student loans of people who went to college who will make tons more money than him over their lifetime (or so we are told)? Is Biden doing this so they can continue to afford to hire someone to paint their vacation homes and install their pools? Sorry, but waitresses, laborers, plumbers, construction workers, and everyone else who does not benefit from the alleged wage boost from attending college should not have to pay for the college degrees of those who hire them. They chose to take out the loans, knowing they would have the debt. They were going to college so they should have been smart enough to understand DEBT and how it would effect their financial lives after graduation.
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DVC 1/25/2021 2:05:27 PM (No. 674043)
#10, my undergrad years cost $150 tuition for three quarters (summer quarter off), $145/qtr for dorm room, and ~$200 for "meal ticket" to eat at the school cafeterias for three meals a day prepaid. So, $150 +$145 + $200 = $495 a qtr plus books, which ran about $60 a quarter. So for a qtr, about $675, for three quarters, $2025 all paid for a year. If we use a 6.7X inflation multiplier, found online, that works out to under $13.6K per year for everything that my parents paid.
Unfortunately, that same state university shows currently $6400 tuition, $6,000 housing, $4600 food, plus $900 for 'books and supplies'. That totals $17,900, which is about 1/3 above the inflation adjusted equivalent of the late 60s - early 1970s number. Tuition increased by twice inflation, housing is about the same, food is just a bit above inflation.
And the school adds in $1200 for "computer/cell phone", $1,100 for transportation, $900 for "clothing maintenance" and a bit over $400 for "personal". They say just a tick under $24K per year for undergrad on campus. That is nearly double the inflation adjusted number from late 60s-early 70s at the same state university.
I didn't have a cell phone or computer then, my transportation was an ancient $400 VW that I maintained myself, and 'clothes maintenance' was taking dirty clothes to my grandparent's home an hour away every couple of weeks and washing it myself. Any "personal" expenses came out of my weekend/summer job at a gas station.
$100K+ for four years of indoctrination on hating your country and being a bad person. Such a deal.
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An IQ of 115 or more is generally considered "above average." That would be about 17% of the population. About 25-30% of the population are earning bachelor's degrees. However, a large number of the people who enter college drop out without finishing their degrees. I estimate that this to be at least 40%. (I am a retired professor and department chair, and this is based on my observation at a number of institutions, ranging from Ivy League to state colleges.) That would mean over 60% of the population are attempting a college education. Thus almost half (60%-17%=47%) of those enrolled are not "above average" and about 8% of those with "average or below" IQ succeed in earning a bachelor's degree. Much of this huge waste is supported by student loans. The colleges profit from it and, at some, there is a constant pressure on the faculty to reduce standards and produce more graduates. Why should taxpayers support this waste?
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FormerDem 1/25/2021 3:28:15 PM (No. 674147)
the problem is that the universities then add this relief on to the price tag they feel they can feasibly charge next time: the vaulting price tag that pays for the deans of cultural activism. That is the problem with the federal loans, all the help everybody really does want to give to bail out those who are so burdened. It does not end up with them. It is a pretext for burdening the next group ever more heavily.
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24tea@Mag 1/25/2021 4:31:17 PM (No. 674222)
Got a free education, no job yet (but who would hire them anyway), live in the basement, protest in the streets, and no plans to pay their debts. Think they are smart, but really they are stupid and spoiled. Love to see how they have progressed in 20-30 years.
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red1066 1/25/2021 4:41:34 PM (No. 674230)
The curse was letting colleges keep increasing tuition and raising the interest rates on college loans. A college loan used to have a one percent interest rate which the student didn't have to start paying until graduation. Now interest on college loans is somethin like 6 percent with tuition growing faster then Covid-19 cases. Visit any college campus, and look at all the construction taking place. It's not about education anymore. These kids and their parents are paying enormous amounts of money not to educate the students, but to send them to resorts.
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
vinegrower 1/25/2021 5:00:14 PM (No. 674247)
I worked 25 hrs a week and took a full load of classes. With my parents help, I never needed a student loan. I must have been a fool. Now I think I should get something else paid for by the US government, can I choose? Maybe a new car or part of my mortgage paid for, I think it's only fair.
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Reply 44 - Posted by:
Omen55 1/25/2021 5:31:28 PM (No. 674277)
In which case everyone who paid theirs off should get a tax free refund.
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Reply 45 - Posted by:
Aubreyesque 1/25/2021 5:34:19 PM (No. 674284)
Student debt is a curse but lets continue to take out 50% of our paychecks to pay for that smelly slovenly welfare queen? Or the illegal who wants to rape and pillage?
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24tea@Mag 1/25/2021 10:26:47 PM (No. 674524)
Student debt is a curse the student can live with. Get a job and start paying for your wonderful education. Your so bight - a few dollars a month won’t hurt. Grow up - pay your bills and stop being a burden on working Americans.
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That's it - just wave a magic wand and $1,700,000,000,000 in debt disappears. Who gets left holding worthless IOU's? How about the students who faithfully repaid all their debt over the years?