Law enforcement world slams
Biden's advice to shoot
suspects 'in the leg'
Just the News,
by
Daniel Payne
Original Article
Posted By: Ida Lou Pino,
10/17/2020 9:43:03 AM
Law enforcement officials are slamming Joe Biden's suggestion that police officers should shoot violent assailants in the leg to avoid a potentially fatal altercation, with experts arguing that police are trained to do exactly the opposite of what Biden advised in order to minimize harm during violent confrontations. In an extended exchange with a questioner during his Philadelphia town hall event with host George Stephanopolous Thursday, Biden laid out his vision for police reform, including his opinion of how police officers should utilize deadly force while on the job.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Northcross 10/17/2020 9:48:58 AM (No. 575295)
If the police are not allowed to use deadly force, at least shoot them in the groin rather than the leg.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Alias Grace 10/17/2020 9:57:33 AM (No. 575304)
Shoot them in the leg before or after the ride-along psychiatrist has talked to them about their feelings?
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
DVC 10/17/2020 10:06:10 AM (No. 575315)
Joe is an idiot.
Even if an officer could hit a leg reliably (difficult at best), the implications that 1) the shot is 'low risk' and 2) will incapacitate are both wrong. Someone shot in the leg can still shoot a gun and kill, and if the large artery is hit in the leg, there is a good chance that it would be fatal if not treated by a trained person within a minute or two.
I know you are joking, #1, but in actuality, a groin shot is a very deadly shot, likely to hit the large descending aorta artery or one of the branches - the very large femoral arteries going to the legs. Also, bullets can bounce in unpredictable directions from the heavy pelvic bones. I have had training in emergency medical treatment, including gunshots, and groin shots are one of the most difficult places to stop arterial bleeding, tourniquets can't work there.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
padiva 10/17/2020 10:41:17 AM (No. 575350)
And how soon will gun ranges have targets with legs on them.
Ah. The new Biden target......
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
bad-hair 10/17/2020 10:42:54 AM (No. 575355)
A Shooting altercation is a high stress and anxiety situation involving sudden floods of adrenaline. It may be hard to even hold a gun in that moment. Only training will get you through usually.
I recall an incident where 4 "BIG" County Sheriff's Deputies responded to a convenience store robbery. 28 shots were fired. Broke every window in the place, took out a couple of beer coolers, the robber got away. No injuries fortunately.
County name redacted, thanks officers for your service.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Philipsonh 10/17/2020 10:57:25 AM (No. 575377)
A police officer that attempts to shoot at a leg would soon be in the hospital or dead. Biden is a complete imbecile ( but, we already knew that ).
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
DVC 10/17/2020 11:20:15 AM (No. 575410)
In court, the defendant's attorney asks the police officer:
"So, why did you shoot my client in the leg?"
"Because I didn't want to hurt him too badly."
"So, you KNEW that my client wasn't really a danger to you or anyone else, and yet you shot him, and could have very easily killed or crippled him - when it wasn't necessary to use potentially deadly force?"
It goes downhill from there.
If it is justifiable to shoot, deadly force is justified. If deadly force is not justified, DO NOT SHOOT. Just that simple. A firearm is not a "less lethal" choice, ever.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
bighambone 10/17/2020 11:25:17 AM (No. 575419)
To 101.99% of the law enforcement officers in this country, Biden is either really a dummy or is a fool.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Twinkle93 10/17/2020 11:37:38 AM (No. 575431)
Has Biden instructed his secret service detail that in case that Biden or his family are attached, the secret service are to only shoot at the legs of the attackers?
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Twinkle93 10/17/2020 11:40:33 AM (No. 575435)
Has Biden instructed his secret service detail that if Biden or his family are attacked, that they are only to shoot at the legs of the attackers?
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Hazymac 10/17/2020 11:46:28 AM (No. 575444)
#1's "shoot them in the groin" is, especially in this time when criminals, including Antifa and BLM, might be wearing body armor, is actually wise advice. They aren't likely to be wearing any cover down there. So just blast 'em off.
As for Biden's gun advice, he is almost comically ignorant of firearms, blitherus ignoramus, worried as he is about assault weapons with "fifty clips" (sic). Speaking of fifty, that's Biden's current IQ.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Avanti1 10/17/2020 12:02:34 PM (No. 575453)
I await senior law enforcement official telling Biden how to conduct a Presidential campaign or how to conduct foreign policy with hostile nations.
If Biden is comfortable telling law enforcement officials how to do their job, law enforcement officials should be comfortable telling him how to do his job.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Lazyman 10/17/2020 2:21:09 PM (No. 575552)
This jerk just shot himself in the foot. Now we see why all the Chief's of Police in Florida are backing Trump.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
bighambone 10/17/2020 8:13:34 PM (No. 575808)
The only cops who are supporting the Biden-Harris Democrat tickets are the Keystone Cops!
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
XCenturion 10/17/2020 8:27:33 PM (No. 575817)
Shoot them in the "bottle" not the leg! Every LEO that has been properly trained knows exactly what this means. Only a demented fool like Joe Biden would make such a stupid comment. As a retired LEO with over 30 years on the force I can tell you that there isn't a cop I know anywhere that would vote for Biden and Harris.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Mushroom 10/17/2020 8:51:41 PM (No. 575835)
#8 Has it dead on! The only reason I pull a gun is if I intend to use it and only then when I or someone else in in danger. I shoot *only* to stop that danger. If it takes the entire magazine, so be it. I'll make more. Another point. I do not use hand loads in my carry.."So you specially made these cartridges by hand for maximum damage potential?'
Well it would all be true if I too didn't lose everything in a what? boating accident? really, that's what we are going with?. Ok, boating accident.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
hoosierblue 10/18/2020 3:06:26 AM (No. 575959)
They shouldn't even soot them in the leg. They should just shoot the gun or knife out of their hands without injuring the hand just like the Lone Ranger used to do it. Maybe they don't because we don't issue them silver bullets.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
mifla 10/18/2020 5:41:49 AM (No. 576000)
Is that what he told his Secret Service detail?
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