Travel From New York City
Seeded Wave of U.S. Outbreaks
New York Times,
by
Benedict Carey
&
James Glanz
Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog,
5/7/2020 8:10:49 AM
New York City’s coronavirus outbreak grew so large by early March that the city became the primary source of new infections in the United States, new research reveals, as thousands of infected people traveled from the city and seeded outbreaks around the country. The research indicates that a wave of infections swept from New York City through much of the country before the city began setting social distancing limits to stop the growth. That helped to fuel outbreaks in Louisiana, Texas, Arizona and as far away as the West Coast. The findings are drawn from geneticists’ tracking signature mutations of
Reply 1 - Posted by:
lindamay 5/7/2020 8:19:36 AM (No. 403578)
Perhaps we could make the entire state of New York a no-go zone.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Safari Man 5/7/2020 8:22:01 AM (No. 403581)
I don’t ❤ NY
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Ida Lou Pino 5/7/2020 8:28:14 AM (No. 403592)
Cuomo - Cuomo 2020!
Sonny for President - - Fredo for Vice-President.
Can't miss!
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
RuckusTom 5/7/2020 8:38:16 AM (No. 403604)
So, why didn't Cuomo shut down travel from his state?
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
paral04 5/7/2020 8:39:12 AM (No. 403605)
Yes, I know of three people in Florida who got the virus from a visiting New Yorker. Yankee go home.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
bpl40 5/7/2020 8:42:42 AM (No. 403611)
If there is a movement for New York esp. the City to secede from the union, it has my support.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Urgent Fury 5/7/2020 8:44:52 AM (No. 403614)
No kidding. They pay reporters to figure this out?
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
seamusm 5/7/2020 8:47:39 AM (No. 403621)
Then like blaming China and the marketplace ultimately holding the ChiComs responsible I suspect New York will pay a price when tourism will continue to avoid NYC 'like the plague' - pun intended.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 5/7/2020 9:01:14 AM (No. 403636)
I expect de Blasio didn't act quickly enough. What did he know and when did he know it?
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Quigley 5/7/2020 9:13:04 AM (No. 403648)
It’s a filthy place.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
harleynyc 5/7/2020 9:23:01 AM (No. 403656)
Tourists from all over the states, and all over the world are the ones on our streets day-in and day-out.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
valinva 5/7/2020 9:26:47 AM (No. 403663)
So on March 10, Health Commissioner Oxiris Barbot went to City Hall to share the findings with Mayor Bill de Blasio and urge him to begin taking more drastic action to control the spread of the coronavirus, which has since claimed 450 lives across New York City. De Blasio resisted, believing that closing schools, restaurants and cultural centers would cripple the city’s economy and disproportionately hurt the marginalized residents he aims to prioritize.
What followed was a week of mixed messages, delayed decisions and feuds that escalated to what one person described as “warfare” amongst city officials, all while the federal government withheld critical aid to New York and Gov. Andrew Cuomo grappled with whether to impose draconian mandates.
Politico
De Blasio's coronavirus crisis
By SALLY GOLDENBERG
03/28/2020 07:00 AM EDT
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
TJ54 5/7/2020 9:46:21 AM (No. 403686)
Shocked the Slimes would publish this.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Lazyman 5/7/2020 9:50:51 AM (No. 403693)
NYers should be cautioned to vote as if their life depended on it: Apparently it does.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
planetgeo 5/7/2020 10:23:08 AM (No. 403720)
Simple solution: hard quarantine New York. Nobody in or out...until a 100%-proven vaccine is developed. (Alinsky them with making them follow their own rules for radicals.)
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
TexaTucky 5/7/2020 10:25:00 AM (No. 403724)
". . . .a wave of infections swept from New York City . . ."?
The insinuation is unfair. It wasn't so much sent forth from NYC as it was picked up and taken home in the shopping bags of all the folks who go to NYC every day. I love New York even though it's being run into the ground by its current governance.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
cor-vet 5/7/2020 10:29:12 AM (No. 403726)
St. Andy claims NY is the economic engine that drives America, even as he asks the rest of the country to pay his bills. It appears it's also the 'Wuhan' of America.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Shells 5/7/2020 11:14:37 AM (No. 403766)
So, as China spread its cooties all over the globe, New York infected the country with its germies.
Anytime I visited the city the first thing I did when I got home was shower. And this was way before the plague hit.
A five year old could have anticipated that this would happen.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Strike3 5/7/2020 11:27:33 AM (No. 403779)
So when Cuomo hires his one thousand tracers they won't have to travel far? They are all former residents of Andy's and de Blasio's backyard who are now recuperating in their beach houses and mountain cabins. It's a good thing those maps came out before New York was able to hide them, the ones showing a big circle of red centering on New York City. Maybe that's where the expression "caught red-handed" originated?
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
earlybird 5/7/2020 11:27:35 AM (No. 403780)
This is another case of extreme tabloid-style journalism. Research? We are “sold” research and studies and all that every day. I would bet there are no hard facts to support this, and I don’t like to lose money.
This may have happened in some cases, but travelers from China in the early days of COVID-19 were also said to have brought it. The Kirkwood nursing home epidemic was traced to a man who had just returned from Wuhan.
Are we really desperate to latch on to any of this hysteria that the media we say we don’t trust are trying to spoon feed us? How things have changed around this forum.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
earlybird 5/7/2020 11:32:26 AM (No. 403783)
Hit submit too soon.
FTA:
The findings are drawn from geneticists’ tracking signature mutations of the virus, travel histories of infected people and models of the outbreak by infectious disease experts.
“We now have enough data to feel pretty confident that New York was the primary gateway for the rest of the country,” said Nathan Grubaugh, an epidemiologist at the Yale School of Public Health.
Neil Ferguson, OBE, (UK), was “pretty confident” about the wild and crazy models he produced early on. The ones that were relied on until he had to redo them downward, and then… Ferguson is no longer an authoritative voice.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
DVC 5/7/2020 11:55:11 AM (No. 403819)
I have pointed out that 60% of all Florida Wuhan flu cases are in three counties in the SE, Dade, Broward and West Palm Beach counties - which have huge numbers of NY and NJ folks. All the other big metro area counties s in Fla have 20-35 deaths, and those three have 432 deaths for Miami-Dade, 219 for Broward, and 215 for West Palm Beach....ten times the numbers of deaths per county, including other counties which have huge percentages of elderly, supposedly the "most likely to die" people.
I had never been around NY folks much until I went to college in Fla - but I sure found out what NY folks were like when I started college, large numbers there. I still remember some huge fat NY girl in the cafeteria the first day I ate breakfast at college bellowing in her LOUD NY accent, "Hey Edith, why do they have mashed potatoes for breakfast?" A lot of us southern-raised kids snickered at the loud mouthed New York kid not even knowing what grits were.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
Shells 5/7/2020 12:07:25 PM (No. 403843)
Um, it’s Palm Beach county. Not West Palm Beach county.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Chuzzles 5/7/2020 12:14:22 PM (No. 403854)
Yep. How many of Florida's cases can be linked directly to NY'ers selfishly fleeing their own nest and infecting others in Florida? I suspect we will never know the full truth of this. But I also figure the rest of us put two and two together weeks ago.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
DVC 5/7/2020 2:10:16 PM (No. 403997)
Thank you, #24, you are correct. I mix up the city name and county name more than I should.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Proud Texan 5/7/2020 2:12:50 PM (No. 404001)
Sounds like we shouldn't wait to finsh the border wall with Mexico before we start the border wall with New York City.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
DVC 5/7/2020 2:43:37 PM (No. 404023)
My wife was talking to a relative who lives in Fla. He mentioned that a friend had tried to visit a month ago, was stopped at the northern border of Fla and turned around by Fla Hwy Patrol. His friend was from NC, but wasn't permitted in. I had heard of that happening on the western border, but this is the first I heard of the northern border.
And the media had no coverage of this at all.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
bighambone 5/7/2020 3:47:01 PM (No. 404109)
You should remember that both Federal and State level officials while making decisions had to make them based on the data and information that they had available to them at that time and not today.
Also New York City (Queens) and nearby Newark, NJ are the locations of two major international airports where huge numbers of flights land in the USA from all over the world. From what we know now, untold numbers of airline passengers, both foreigners and US citizens, infected with the COVID-19 virus landed at those airports, spreading the virus throughout the immediate areas and then as they traveled further all across the USA.
Remember President Trump stopped all foreigners who had been in China within 14 days from entering the USA during January. Even by then it was too late, as Chinese workers traveling back to Northern Italy, after spending the Chinese New Years holidays in China (about 300,000 Chinese workers are in Italy employed in the Italian fashion industry manufacturing facilities in Northern Italy) had already spread the virus there, and then indirectly throughout most of Europe. Once the virus was loose in Europe it was easy for the massive numbers of infected airline passengers travelers moving between Europe and the USA to unintentionally catch and bring the virus to New York and New Jersey.
While Trump used existing immigration law to stop foreigners, no doubt some of them infected, from entering the USA when he stopped international airline travel, Trump had no legal authority to stop returning US citizens from re-entering the country from foreign travel and could only ask them to follow the CDC guidelines.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
NYbob 5/7/2020 3:59:15 PM (No. 404126)
The Thug cuomo only restricts travel for feel good PC insanity. Like demanding that a women's swim team stay in another state because of gay nonsense in North Carolina. The Thug and his weird brother need to face justice someday. I wish it was soon. If the staff permits, the link below shows how petty he is, how twisted he is and how Andy got the proper nickname, the Thug. I can't believe this is America and how we are being jerked around by rat politicians enabled by soft headed liberals.
https://www.whec.com/news/gov-cuomo-suny-swimmers-cant-use-gofundme-money-for-hotel-rooms/5275171/
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
DVC 5/8/2020 2:54:02 AM (No. 404618)
I think Kurt Russel made a movie about this.....Escape from New York.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
TXknitter 5/8/2020 3:17:47 PM (No. 405276)
I know for a fact Texas natives who now live in Manhattan took off for south Texas beaches to enjoy the sun long after being told to stay put. They could have cared less and hoteliers down there will tell you there were more than a few. Rules do not apply to wealthy lib NYers.
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Looks like New York owes the other 49 states some big payback. Do we send the bill to Senator Upchuck, Princess Andrew, or AOC?