Blurred lines: A pregnant man’s tragedy tests gender notions
Associated Press,
by
Marilyn Marchione
Original Article
Posted By: Hermoine,
5/16/2019 9:42:10 AM
When the man arrived at the hospital with severe abdominal pains, a nurse didn’t consider it an emergency, noting that he was obese and had stopped taking blood pressure medicines. In reality, he was pregnant — a transgender man in labor that was about to end in a stillbirth. The tragic case, described in Wednesday’s New England Journal of Medicine, points to larger issues about assigning labels or making assumptions
Reply 1 - Posted by:
VinGoombatz 5/16/2019 9:53:53 AM (No. 66102)
Um, it wasn´t a man. Next story...
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
twocentsworth 5/16/2019 10:01:08 AM (No. 66111)
....and the baby just kinda appeared inside this person? Sounds complicated.....
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Chromosomes don´t lie...
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
coldborezero 5/16/2019 10:14:02 AM (No. 66106)
This individual homo sapiens is a genetic female. That FACT will not change, regardless of HER fantasies.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
bpl40 5/16/2019 10:16:42 AM (No. 66096)
Was the chromosome XX? Case closed!
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Knotwyrkin 5/16/2019 10:27:17 AM (No. 66103)
We will always have those with mental illness with us. They deserve our concern and care, but I refuse to participate in their delusions.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 5/16/2019 10:27:29 AM (No. 66078)
Only a woman´s body is uniquely designed to house and deliver an infant, and it wasn´t clear which this person was born as. That said, the patient in question is in for a lot more than Post Partum Depression. Why do people think they can pull one over on God?
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
pilot222 5/16/2019 10:28:04 AM (No. 66094)
Maybe God in his mercy took this baby back home.
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Ok to continue the ridiculous confusion this BS creates, this “MAN” must have had sex with a real man and therefore should be considered GAY??
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
PESSIMIST 5/16/2019 10:38:12 AM (No. 66084)
There aren´t "impact biases" that need to be addressed. There are psychoses that need to be addressed.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 5/16/2019 10:54:56 AM (No. 66083)
The problem with transgenderism is it tries to deny reality. Doesn´t work. A man cannot be a woman. A woman cannot be a man. This story is a perfect example. This ´man´ just had a reality check. He´s pregnant! Only women have children. Therefore this man is a woman. They can say anything they like to the contrary, but it changes nothing.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Burninfilm 5/16/2019 10:56:47 AM (No. 66091)
Not a man..She´s a female who is playing a man. MEN DON´T GET PREGNANT...Simple scientific fact!
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FTA: “He was rightly classified as a man” in the medical records and appears masculine, Stroumsa said. “But that classification threw us off from considering his actual medical needs.”
No, no, no, he was NOT "rightly" listed as a man. That is a lie. This is insanity.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
globalwarmer 5/16/2019 11:04:03 AM (No. 66107)
Science deniers, eh?
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Jethro bo 5/16/2019 11:05:53 AM (No. 66085)
This is litigation nightmare for the medical community. So pretending to be a man even though having sex as a woman results in a pregnancy. Then, the ´man´ shows up at the hospital having a pregancy complication but identifies to the staff ass a man. Instantly, the possiblities of female related disease or complications is virtually ignored and now some trial lawyer can file a malpracitce suit based on the ´knew or should have known´ standard. How does a doctor treat a woman pretending to be a man? Does he do the usual screening for women like pap smears, mammography, pelvic exams? What about checking a ´woman´ for prostate cancer? And if a doctor assumes the person pretending to be a different sex needs the appropriate biological exams, wile he or she be sued for mental anguish for not honoring the transgender´s gender fantasy?
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
BigGeorgeTX 5/16/2019 11:09:34 AM (No. 66092)
I am so sick of mental illness being used to drive government policy.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Condor44 5/16/2019 11:14:19 AM (No. 66082)
The other sick part of this is that the media plays right along by saying that this freak is a man. Men cannot get pregnant, only women can. I am really sick of this foolishness.
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These freaks who think they need to rearrange their parts would best make do with the body they were born with... deal with it.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Skeptical1 5/16/2019 11:19:54 AM (No. 66072)
The gender notion being "tested" is the AP writer´s notion that an XX presenting as an XY is really an XY. Instead of beating themselves up with sensitivity training, clinicians just need an unambiguous system of labeling. The clinic I go to is still working on this, asking you to select "Gender before Puberty", or sometimes "M,F, Trans or Other". Both of these are ambiguous, of course. I think that choosing one of XX or XY, then Yes/No on Trans, would be a simple and respectful way to disambiguate the situation. This patient was simply an XX Trans.
She did (supposedly) tell the nurse that she is trans, but apparently neglected to mention that she home-tested as pregnant (which would have been helpful, maybe she was in too much distress to think of it), but by neglecting to pin down XX or XY, the staff slipped into judging her sex by her appearance. That´s the simple lesson of this case.
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This whole situation is absurdity illustrating the absurd. I´m so sorry for the child in this circumstance; on the other hand, I I believe he/she is safe and secure in the arms of God.
We are reliving the Tower of Babel in our present day. Men trying to be God. I agree with an earlier poster, that the end times (not by global bi-polar climate change) are near.
Don´t mess with the way God made things, people! You think you can, but you can´t.
Come quickly, Lord Jesus!
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Truth Czar 5/16/2019 11:29:41 AM (No. 66086)
What claptrap! It´s medicine´s fault because a woman pretends to be a man? Transfer HER to the PSYCH WARD.
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Isn´t it amazing how quickly the medical establishment has capitulated to this anti-science insanity? I recently completed a pre-appointment questionnaire with a major hospital that included several questions right out of the transgender playbook: Did I "identify" as male, female, other, even the option to tell them that I´d rather not say (that´s great for emergency treatment, keep ´em guessing"). Back to this story, the AP says that this "tragedy" illustrates the need for EVEN MORE acceptance and promotion of the transgender lunacy.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
bigfatslob 5/16/2019 11:32:25 AM (No. 66077)
A fake story to peddle the transgender hoaxers who like to cross dress as the opposite sex. It use to labeled as ´drag queens´ or boyish women (can´t use a certain word here). The left is changing the nomenclature to gender fluid or transgender but it is what it is, mentally sick.
No this was not a man so forget about this dumb story.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
DVC 5/16/2019 11:32:27 AM (No. 66110)
Stupid, stupid, stupid.
NO man ever did get pregnant, and no man ever will.
Thinking and saying thinks like this headline is a clear sign of insanity.
These people really need professional mental health care for their serious delusion problems.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
fayebeck 5/16/2019 11:39:56 AM (No. 66098)
Had this "man" had an abortion in Alabama today would "he" be tried as a "woman" or a "man"? Would the performing
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
fayebeck 5/16/2019 11:41:58 AM (No. 66093)
Sorry, but would the "doctor" performing the "procedure" be sentenced to death? Inquiring minds need to know.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
TrueBlueWfan 5/16/2019 11:44:26 AM (No. 66105)
#20 - Just telling someone you are "trans" can mean either a man trying to be a woman, or a woman trying to be a man. The nurse probably didn´t know which was meant, so went with appearance to determine the sex of the individual.
The whole pronoun confusion is insanity - I still don´t know for sure if they mean a man or a woman when they refer to a transgender male. Why can´t a man say he is a man, or a woman just say she´s a woman? They can still dress and act any way they want, but really, this trans business has gone way too far.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
Clinger 5/16/2019 11:56:25 AM (No. 66081)
When the lunacy of denying biology results in predictable inevitable consequences the answer seems to be to double down on lunacy.
FTA: " More needs to be done to improve medical awareness and recognition of diversity because “the consequences can be so dire, as this case shows,”
No, we need to stay grounded in reality, doing a better job of pretending won´t fix anything.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
kono 5/16/2019 12:01:37 PM (No. 66076)
The kind of confusion that #29 expresses can be cleared up with a simple rule: If somebody in the MSM (or a self-identifying ´Progressive´) refers to anybody as "trans", just replace the word with "fake". For example, "Trans man" means fake man.
The way to avoid confusion is to remember that the MSM is the ideological and moral enemy of traditional America. They are aggressively pro-communist, pro-LGBTQWERTYUIOP, anti-JudeoChristian, anti-male, and anti-Constitution, et al. As such, their daily production serves to promote the downfall of American culture and oppose her traditional ideals.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
PlayItAgain 5/16/2019 12:06:26 PM (No. 66080)
Misgendering can be considered a crime in some cases. So doctor´s have every reason to treat this person as a man.
Perhaps we should just make it illegal for men to get pregnant.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
janjan 5/16/2019 12:14:36 PM (No. 66068)
When a doctor refers to a pregnant female as being ´rightly classified as a man´ we have entered the theater of the absurd. I observe these freaks from afar but cannot even begin to relate to how their brains work.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
legalart 5/16/2019 12:18:59 PM (No. 66095)
Notice all the PC buzz words in this story, attempting to get the readers to trash their reasoning powers and accept the absurd.
It remains to be seen what will happen in another 10 - 30 years when all these young transgenders hit middle age and have to deal with the consequence of a lifetime intake of opposite sex hormones. It is the ultimate insanity to reject (and fight against) your biological nature. I don´t think these people are psychological ill for the most part; I think they are morally twisted. All this resembles taking apart a Swiss watch and giving it to a blindfolded short-order cook to reassemble. No offense to the cooks.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
ARKfamily 5/16/2019 12:28:55 PM (No. 66087)
I wish people would make up their minds. He wants to identify as a man and asks people to do so. Then, the hospital classifies as a man and now frustration sets in because the hospital didn´t question her about being female?
Maybe this individual needed to inform the hospital he had sex with a male?
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Not a man.
This is what happens when people do unnatural things. Perversion is what it is.
Tell the truth and shame the Devil.
The tragedy is to the stillborn child.
The whole thing is just twisted. Sickening.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
rabblerouser 5/16/2019 12:42:47 PM (No. 66108)
What is so tragic about it? That the she/he didn´t get an opportunity to abort the baby before it died? Or that this poor child was saved from wondering what heck its mother is?
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
FLCracker 5/16/2019 12:47:23 PM (No. 66088)
It´s not nice to fool Mother Nature.
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Indeed, the tragedy is the stillborn child.
Could all the male hormones this woman likely ingested have created such an abnormal body chemistry in the face of pregnancy that it killed the baby?
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
dirtyjersey 5/16/2019 1:55:09 PM (No. 66099)
Has anyone noticed that we are constantly told to stop stereotyping gender, but those who transition typically dress and present in extremely stereotypical ways? And if gender is fluid, why is it so offensive to misidentify someone?
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
kono 5/16/2019 2:11:28 PM (No. 66075)
Perhaps we should just make it illegal for men to get pregnant.
Isn´t it already against Natural Law for a man to get pregnant?
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
shalimar 5/16/2019 2:20:42 PM (No. 66112)
#39 has it right. Instead of blaming the medical system for its supposed biases, these folks need to consider the possibility that the testosterone the patient had been taking is the likely cause of the stillbirth. IMHO, it is.
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
NYbob 5/16/2019 2:45:09 PM (No. 66101)
If you ever vote for a rat again, remember this. This stupidity and insanity was created and grown by rat politicians and media. Why would a sane person want to be part of that?
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
Goose 5/16/2019 3:06:11 PM (No. 66073)
If this person was convinced of being a man, why take a pregnancy test?
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
saguni 5/16/2019 4:58:02 PM (No. 66090)
Science deniers, indeed!
Maybe they need another blank space on those overly inquisitive forms...Sex__M_F__ Gender _______ any of the 57 varieties (at last count.)
The patient can be addressed as the "preferred gender" but will be treated objectively by the DNA determined sex.
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Reply 44 - Posted by:
Daisy Mae 5/16/2019 11:31:25 PM (No. 66337)
This article is garbage, it keeps referring to HER as HE, it is a woman for crying-out-loud, she is pregnant, obviously SHE has a womb. It frosts me that this even hit the news. It isn't that unusual for a WOMAN to be pregnant, and to have a still born.
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Reply 45 - Posted by:
FunOne 5/17/2019 7:54:37 AM (No. 66386)
Cosmetic surgery does not a gender make!
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Seems like this "man" forgot he was a man and his mate didn't.
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Ahhh...the absurdities of transgenderism in action.