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Bill Gates says hydroxychloroquine has 'severe side effects,'
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Posted By: Hermoine, 8/15/2020 11:17:57 AM

Bill Gates this week added more flame to the fire in the ongoing debate over the usage of hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19, claiming that using the drug to treat the coronavirus carries with it the risk of "severe side effects" and arguing that medical officials should instead pursue the numerous "good therapeutic drugs" currently in development. Yet there is at present little evidence that "severe side effects" are common in COVID-19 patients who take hydroxychloroquine, with the majority of reported adverse events being relatively mild and only a small fraction of reported effects so far being dangerous and/or fatal.

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Good lord, he must be a terrible poker player...could he not tip his hand more strongly as to his true agenda? Also, just curious, exactly how many patients has the Microsoft founder (and tech pirate) treated?

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Reply 1 - Posted by: franq 8/15/2020 11:24:14 AM (No. 510813)
Remind me what college and med school Mr. Gates attended?
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Mushroom 8/15/2020 11:26:48 AM (No. 510816)
Oh there must be side effects...other wise they wouldn't keep feeding it to g.i.s for the last 50 years. /s Come up with a new lie Bill.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: jalo1951 8/15/2020 11:35:58 AM (No. 510833)
So can aspirin. So what’s your point?
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Reply 4 - Posted by: pros7767 8/15/2020 11:36:30 AM (No. 510834)
He gets more and more despicable by the day!
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Illinois Mom 8/15/2020 11:43:19 AM (No. 510837)
Are they going to censor Gates, remove and/or shutdown his websites and slander him the way they did to the REAL doctors who advocated for hydroxychloroquine? The REAL doctors who went to medical school and who have years of experience and have treated REAL Covid patients with hydroxychloroquine and have had remarkable success? What people like Gates (no ulterior motives here) these platforms and the press have done regarding this Covid-19 treatment protocol is criminal. How many people were scared away from taking the medication and died unnecessarily?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: czechlist 8/15/2020 11:44:42 AM (No. 510844)
I reckon Billy doesn't watch too many pharmaceutical commercials with the side effect disclaimers. Hey, genious, drinking too much clean water can have severe side effects!
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Readaholic 8/15/2020 11:45:31 AM (No. 510846)
Yes, especially when given at fish tank cleaning levels.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: jhpeters2 8/15/2020 11:46:21 AM (No. 510847)
Always, without fail, college drop outs like Gates insist on running your life for you. You know like LeBron James. And we are stuck with their idiocy.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Norway 8/15/2020 11:47:35 AM (No. 510848)
Funny thing, Mr. Gates-of-Hell/Shill-For-Mandatory/Vaccines, HCQ is being used successfully in several others nations who, somehow, aren't getting all of those side effects. Nor have we had them since the drug's use began in 1948.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: aasilver 8/15/2020 11:51:00 AM (No. 510852)
Gates made his billions by stealing DOS from the original developers. He stole MS Word from Xerox PARC. He stole the mouse and many other parts of the companies core products. He is not a overly bright man outside of computers - he just thinks he is. He believes his PR and thinks he is one of the Gods of the world.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Sunhan65 8/15/2020 11:53:48 AM (No. 510855)
Microsoft has somehow managed to continually and repetitively make their products worse every time. Each new "version" of their idiotic bloatware is worse than the last. Every new release of Windows/Office takes longer to load, works less reliably, and removes or conceals previously-beloved features from their unwilling customers. None of it works very well, and it never did. Microsoft is also, reputedly but reliably, a horrible place to work -- vicious, exploitative, and hated by its own employees. Bill Gates, on the other hand, is hated by virtually every one. I talked an accountant once who knew him and asked what he was like as an individual. That person just shook his head and said, "Awful. Worse than you could imagine." In a world with any justice, Gates would catch COVID-19, continue to refuse hydroxychloroquine, and suffer the consequences. However, Gates has managed to evade justice in this world for so long, we may have content ourselves with the thought that the scales will finally balance in the next.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: DVC 8/15/2020 11:57:55 AM (No. 510859)
Lies. Intentional lies. But told loud enough and often enough and they become conventional wisdom. Remember that much 'conventional wisdom' is non-factual, and often intentional lies.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: WhamDBambam 8/15/2020 12:02:42 PM (No. 510863)
Why is anything that Bill Gates says important to anyone, other than his employees?
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Reply 14 - Posted by: stablemoney 8/15/2020 12:03:54 PM (No. 510868)
I would feel much safer taking HDQ than one of Gate's vaccines.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Trump'sCousin 8/15/2020 12:15:17 PM (No. 510886)
Bill, you're not a doctor. Stick to being a very unattractive techno nerd. Your wife is ugly too Bill, you have a lot of money. Hire a good plastic surgeon you both could use it. Maybe we'll get lucky and the surgeon will sew your mouths shut.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: athina 8/15/2020 12:15:26 PM (No. 510888)
Oh? And what about all your vaccines that harmed the people who were your guinea pigs in poor nations, and all the harm that vaccines have done to young children in this country? What about those side effects
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Reply 17 - Posted by: LadyHen 8/15/2020 12:35:35 PM (No. 510905)
Cough cough... Conflict of interest... cough cough...
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Reply 18 - Posted by: earlybird 8/15/2020 12:37:01 PM (No. 510906)
Doesn’t he know that we know that he is pushing against HCQ because of all the money he will make with his vaccine? And probably other things - therapeutics. Doesn’t have a humanitarian bone in his money-grubbing body.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Rumblehog 8/15/2020 12:44:19 PM (No. 510913)
Bill, you never could cure the "blue screen of death" in your Windows OS, so please stop trying to cure the Wuhan Virus.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: marbles 8/15/2020 12:56:01 PM (No. 510932)
One of the side effects of all the drugs for osteoporosis ( thinning bones ) is the spontaneous fracture of a hip bone. Think about that. I would say that's a major side effect . Ever see a drug ad ? Pages of side effects. Same with those on T.V., at the very end of a cheery ad comes the side effects. So, Bill ,shut up.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: MorningStar 8/15/2020 12:58:07 PM (No. 510933)
According to the testimony of REAL doctors who actually TREAT real patients, Hydroxychloroquine is much safer than aspirin, Tylenol and ibruprofen!! I doubt the same will be said of any "Dr." Whizbang Gates' new vaccines, made from fetal cells from aborted babies. Savior of the Universe?! NOT!!
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Polecat49 8/15/2020 1:00:38 PM (No. 510936)
Hey little bill. The greatest side effect is that; "Take hydroxycloriquine and LIVE, don't take it and DIE".billy is just like most other marxists. Take every opportunity the United States of America gives to little ole him and do his level best to deny such opportunities to EVERYBODY else that is not a liberal, socialist, marxist, communist demoncRAT.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Tusker 8/15/2020 1:01:41 PM (No. 510937)
As part of yet another worthless "virtual medical update call", the Internal Medicine MD of 15 years was asked: "If either my wife or me come down with the ChiCom germ warfare weapon, are you going to treat us with Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin and zinc? The answer: "No, there are side-effects. But we have some really smart people here at UT Southwestern working on it." And I replied: "Be sure and invite them to our virtual funeral, and you, of course as well." Hanging up, I found a local M.D. who is teed up to treat us as soon as symptoms are confirmed (whose patients time ill and recovery is dramatically managed sucessfully in week's positive relative opposed to months in the hospital and driving up thousands of dollars in bills) with same if we need it. To hell with Bill Gates, "Felahchee", and Schwartz György (Why has this scum from hell not been charged, tried and hung for treason?) and the democommie party and their Joe/Ho White Lives/Blue Line Don't Matter ticket.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Phooey 8/15/2020 1:11:07 PM (No. 510949)
#19 You are correct and I found the cause and fix(patch) For Win3.1. Wish we still had The Connection so I could explain. Oh well.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: bighambone 8/15/2020 1:15:49 PM (No. 510953)
Any drug can have severe side effects, depending on the physical condition of the patient, and how the patient’s body reacts to the drug. With hydroxycloroquine it appears that various medical and scientific studies show that it is an effective therapy during the starting stage of a COVID infection but not after a patient is already seriously ill. Liberal are really astute at using the tool of “conflation” and this may well be another instance of that. One thing, when it comes to specific drugs, President Trump should not comment on their apparent effectiveness as he is not a doctor, but should direct comments to his medical scientists.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: chase9365 8/15/2020 1:22:37 PM (No. 510959)
Bill, have you ever read the warnings on a prescription info sheet or listened to a commercial on TV about a prescription drug? Safe to say ALL drugs have dangerous side effects!
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Reply 27 - Posted by: DVC 8/15/2020 1:32:23 PM (No. 510975)
#10, Gates purchased DOS. I was around and using computers when it happened, and I know the stories well. Gates tried to purchas CPM, his preferred operating system, but the wife of the CPM writer/owner put off Gates repeatedly, and it seemed that they weren't interested in selling, so Gates went to his second choice and purchased DOS. It is not necessary to introduce falsehoods here.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: moebellini3 8/15/2020 1:36:11 PM (No. 510977)
Bill Gates, another pure hypocrite. I mean you can't be any more open about being a freakin communist. These morons actually want people to get sick and stay sick. Many countries are using hydroxychloroquine with great success and this idiot is trying to scare people away from it....
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Reply 29 - Posted by: sanspeur 8/15/2020 1:36:39 PM (No. 510978)
drug warnings , shrug .gates probably afraid to drink a cuppa hot coffee after reading those warnings !
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Reply 30 - Posted by: 68BattleofBealeVet 8/15/2020 1:45:20 PM (No. 510982)
Follow the money!
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Reply 31 - Posted by: or gate 8/15/2020 2:21:25 PM (No. 511013)
Billy, I took quine for over two years. Wise up
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Reply 32 - Posted by: JHHolliday 8/15/2020 2:26:42 PM (No. 511017)
I have an Irish friend who lived in Africa for the last thirty years. He took it all those years with no side effects and so did all the ex-pats (whites) in Zimbabwe and Tanzania. As other posters have noted, if can scare you to read the possible side effects of any drug. One innocuous (I thought) drug I took for a while listed all sorts of possibles from shortness of breath to sudden death (in rare cases they assure you). Better call your doctor if you experience sudden death!
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Reply 33 - Posted by: jinx 8/15/2020 2:28:19 PM (No. 511019)
DID he go to medical school? Pharmacy school? No, he's a computer geek. Take what he says about drugs with a grain of salt.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: oldmagnolia 8/15/2020 2:56:08 PM (No. 511047)
Didn't know Evil Gates had a medical degree.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: Turninggrey 8/15/2020 3:00:20 PM (No. 511051)
Nerd.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: red1066 8/15/2020 3:28:18 PM (No. 511071)
Dr. Bill Gates is wrong, and sees his investment in a vaccine going up in smoke.
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Reply 37 - Posted by: nina584 8/15/2020 3:34:51 PM (No. 511079)
Gates wants to drug you With his own drugs. Wonder what he is up to? He is not only ignorant but I don’t trust him. I bet his vaccines come with chips to spy and track you. Hydroxychloroquine has minimal side effects. Is used all over the world with no problems. What is this creep ion to??!
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Reply 38 - Posted by: FormerDem 8/15/2020 3:57:26 PM (No. 511107)
Despicable. The evident easy cheap solution to our problems is HCQ early, and go for herd immunity, but no, the Donkeys want us gagged and locked up, and the police to focus on just us, never mind shooters, child abusers, wife beaters, etc. Just us. If we take those gags off or go outside or clamor for Mass. This party merits no role in the future of our country. they hate us.
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Reply 39 - Posted by: JackBurton 8/15/2020 4:24:44 PM (No. 511123)
You have something that was introduced in the early 50s. It's ubiquitous. It's safe. 5.5 million prescriptions were issued in the U.S. alone in 2017 and they were for long term use. Long stays in countries with Malaria. Lifelong health issues such as Lupus and Rheumatoid Arthritis. And he thinks a 5 day course of the drugs to stop Covid 19 (which we ALL KNOW is as dangerous as The Spanish Flu or worse nudge nudge wink wink) is going to hurt people? You need to avoid liars and stupid people. He's one or the other.
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Reply 40 - Posted by: texaspast 8/15/2020 4:45:53 PM (No. 511144)
Water can have severe side effects if misused, too.
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Reply 41 - Posted by: George R. 8/15/2020 5:40:13 PM (No. 511184)
The same Bill Gates who stole the work of a former friend, claimed it as his own and became a multibillionaire? Gates is a complete fraud, so why should we have to hear from him so often or at all?
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Reply 42 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 8/15/2020 6:47:22 PM (No. 511226)
Bill is absolutely correct. The most severe side effect of HCQ is ... Bill Gates pretending to be a intelligent doctor.
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Reply 43 - Posted by: tisHimself 8/15/2020 7:05:47 PM (No. 511240)
Zapatero a tus zapatos. And I doubt he stayed at Holiday Inn Express last night.
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Reply 44 - Posted by: Lawsy0 8/15/2020 8:09:02 PM (No. 511278)
Liar, Liar, Pocketbook on Fire.
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Reply 45 - Posted by: Annie Xango 8/15/2020 10:57:04 PM (No. 511336)
and we are going to listen to someone who inflicted Windows on the world..I think NOT!!!
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Reply 46 - Posted by: XCenturion 8/15/2020 11:20:14 PM (No. 511342)
Bill Gates is one rich asshat, that I'll give him.
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Reply 47 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623 8/16/2020 1:55:20 AM (No. 511378)
What's in it for Bill ? In the meantime, Israel is having good results with plasma treatment. I trust them more than Bill.
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Reply 48 - Posted by: judy 8/16/2020 7:09:51 AM (No. 511462)
So the media allows Gates to be a Doctor....but not President Trump....News flash that is why they place warning labels on meds...
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Reply 49 - Posted by: broken01 8/16/2020 8:30:30 AM (No. 511530)
Says the man who became a multi billionaire by stealing someone else’s work. This moron isn’t an MD and is pushing a vaccine that he has a financial stake in. I believe in NOTHING that he says. Period.
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Reply 50 - Posted by: hoosierblue 8/16/2020 9:18:38 AM (No. 511598)
If you can read the small blurry print or listen to the sped up disclaimer-warning on almost every drug advertised you will notice that they all have numerous side effects, most with serious ones, including death.
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Posted by Magnante 8/19/2020 8:33:26 AM Post Reply
In a recent OpEd from The Guardian, author Larry Elliot opines on the frequency of obesity among low-income households in the U.K., and points out that the problem “in the U.S. mirrors that of the U.K.” Elliot goes on to proclaim, that, “there will be less obesity when people can afford to eat better.” The premise is that poor folks are victims of one injustice or another; in Elliot’s case, he claims they are unable to afford healthy food. This notion has been floating around for several years now, particularly as it relates to children, and is one that is frequently parroted by the left in America.
The second night of the DNC was
somehow worse than the first
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Posted by Imright 8/19/2020 12:18:15 AM Post Reply
Joe Biden accepted the Democratic Party’s nomination in what might have been the most awkward, unexciting way possible.After a Democratic official announced that Biden had won a majority of the party’s delegates, the virtual event switched over to the high school library where Biden and his wife, Jill Biden, waited. This segment was obviously live because the transition was so clunky that viewers had to watch the two stand there smiling awkwardly while stringed confetti fell from the ceiling.But don’t worry. Democrats made sure to include prerecorded applause from multiple guests, switching back and forth
Stephen Bannon Arrested,
Charged with Fraud by NY Prosecutor
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Posted by Dreadnought 8/20/2020 10:16:14 AM Post Reply
Former Trump adviser Stephen Bannon and three other defendants were arrested on Thursday morning and charged with fraud by the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York. Bannon, along with Brian Kolfage, Timothy Shea, and Andrew Badolato, were charged with defrauding hundreds of thousands of donors who contributed to “We Build the Wall,” an online crowdfunding campaign that has raised over $25 million in funds for a border wall between the U.S. and Mexico. “As alleged, the defendants defrauded hundreds of thousands of donors, capitalizing on their interest in funding a border wall to raise millions of dollars, under the false pretense that all of that money
Obama, in scathing Trump rebuke,
warns democracy on the line
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Posted by Imright 8/19/2020 7:55:44 PM Post Reply
WASHINGTON— Barack Obama will issue a blistering rebuke of President Donald Trump in Wednesday’s Democratic Party convention, accusing his successor of unleashing America’s “worst impulses” and treating the presidency as a reality show “to get the attention he craves.”In excerpts released ahead of his address, the former president also puts the stakes in the November election in stark terms, warning that the future of American democracy is on the line in the race between Trump and Democratic nominee Joe Biden.“I am also asking you to believe in your own ability — to embrace your own responsibility as citizens —
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