Iraq War veteran Thomas Sanford ID’d
as gunman who attacked Grand Blanc LDS
church, killing 2 and setting it ablaze
New York Post,
by
Joe Marino
&
Chris Nesi
Original Article
Posted By: earlybird,
9/28/2025 4:12:55 PM
The deranged madman who killed at least two people and injured nine others at a Michigan Latter-day Saints church, torching the building and opening fire on fleeing congregants and their families, has been identified as 40-year-old Thomas Jacob Sanford, The Post can confirm.
Sanford, a US Marine veteran, according to his mom’s Facebook page, rammed his Chevy Silverado truck into the building before unleashing the assault on the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Grand Blanc Township, Michigan, armed with a semi-automatic rifleAn old Facebook post by Sanford’s mothersays the gunan (snip)served in Iraq from 2004-2008.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
DVC 9/28/2025 4:23:09 PM (No. 2010169)
OK, two military veterans do this sort of stuff almost the same time. Who's pushing their buttons?
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Dreadnought 9/28/2025 4:23:12 PM (No. 2010170)
Two crazed veterans in one day,
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
DVC 9/28/2025 4:25:04 PM (No. 2010171)
Served in Iraq 17 years ago. Doesn't seem relevant. What has been going on in his life in the last decade or half decade?
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
vrb8m 9/28/2025 4:36:39 PM (No. 2010177)
He looks unhinged.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Subsuburban 9/28/2025 4:42:07 PM (No. 2010179)
My prediction is that we shall find out that he was once a member of that congregation, got into a dispute of some sort and either left or was disfellowshipped. Things like that are frequently at the core of these "mass shootings." In the black community, it is usually the result of somebody "dissing" someone else, following which a shooting takes place to avenge the insult. It is no different in the white community, but more whites have a sense of responsibility, a better handle on their emotions and a more highly developed sense of future consequences, so they are less prone to burst into violence. Not all blacks are like that, nor are all whites tolerant of insults, but the percentages are undeniable. You are always going to be safer playing the odds, but that is not a guarantee you will avoid violence in today's world, which is full of Godless, solipsistic monsters.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
earlybird 9/28/2025 4:51:28 PM (No. 2010183)
Many are clueless about PTSD. Here you go:
https://nvhs.org/symptoms-of-ptsd/?msclkid=4b40af2ab69f1461d786c7f328f18315&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=NVHS%20-%20Blog&utm_term=symptoms%20ptsd&utm_content=PTSD%20Symptoms
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
bighambone 9/28/2025 5:07:35 PM (No. 2010184)
Why would the perpetrator be deployed to Iraq for four years that does not seem right? No doubt it appears that he was a “nut job” and it’s pretty clear that his mental illness caused him to attack that church, wether his very long military deployment was the cause of his mental state remains to be seen.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Mr Clean 9/28/2025 5:25:50 PM (No. 2010193)
Media starts beating the "right wing terrorist" drum in 5...4...3...
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
TCloud 9/28/2025 6:22:30 PM (No. 2010198)
It is because we are all defined by our politics!
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
anniebc 9/28/2025 6:23:30 PM (No. 2010199)
What the heck, poster #5? Good grief! You have crazy murderers in the news recently, all white, and we get more whites are better people blah, blah, blah. So not necessary.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
NorthernDog 9/28/2025 6:42:57 PM (No. 2010204)
Small point but the truck is a GMC, not Chevy. Not much difference besides the nameplate. Lots of people think they want to go out in a blaze of glory. In reality they are pariahs.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Kate318 9/28/2025 6:49:28 PM (No. 2010205)
MK Ultra has been busy lately.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
jalo1951 9/28/2025 7:05:33 PM (No. 2010207)
We don't know. We will find out. I just don't want Jimmy Kimmel to be the one giving us the info tomorrow night.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
hurricanegirl 9/28/2025 7:08:11 PM (No. 2010208)
You would think by now that ALL churches in the U.S. would have figured out that they need armed security any time church activities are occurring. I know of several very small churches here in Texas that have security teams--and have had to use them to defend the church and church goers, too.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Birddog 9/28/2025 7:27:54 PM (No. 2010210)
The church DID have armed security...an off duty cop and a DNR Warden, members of the congregation, started returning fire within 30 seconds.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
BarryNo 9/28/2025 7:50:53 PM (No. 2010212)
Interesting...
The Left has been whining about how the violence is on both sides, and two, supposedly conservative perps attack with long rifles to make their point. This is very convenient for the Left... Maybe too convenient.
I know the CIA recruits heavily from the military special ops. Oswald was military, for example. How far did the CIA get with their mind-control research? We know they have experimented with drugs, electro magnetic fields and brainwashing. How do we check?
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
earlybird 9/28/2025 8:16:10 PM (No. 2010215)
is mother had apparently posted that Iraq deployment info online at some point. Could have meant "between 2004 and 2008"?
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
earlybird 9/28/2025 8:55:23 PM (No. 2010220)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/09/28/thomas-jacob-sanford-identified-michigan-church-shooting-suspect/86409758007/
No time to post this but it has dmdore info on Sanford. Ten years ago his son was norn prematurely with a very rare condition that required they take him tp a jospital in Texas. Truncated article doesn't say more. Could it br that this church turned them down when they needed aid?
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
DVC 9/28/2025 9:12:35 PM (No. 2010222)
Last in combat at least 17 years ago.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
JHHolliday 9/28/2025 9:14:44 PM (No. 2010224)
PTSD sends a lot of guys off the rails. A lot just shoot themselves. Some snap while serving and frag their officers.
And re: 14, Our church has members carrying. They have been trained but the general congregation doesn't know who they are. It's a shame that we have to protect our churches like that today.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
RussZilla 9/29/2025 6:46:37 AM (No. 2010251)
War is hell. Is it necessary that we send men into combat in places like Iraq or Afghanistan? The US has taken on too many elective wars. Get the US out of the war business. Let’s take care of our own for a change. Military solutions come at a cost. Let’s count that cost before we enter the war field.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
TrueBlueWfan 9/29/2025 10:41:13 AM (No. 2010331)
Many "likes" to #16. It is quite strange to me that the left was losing the "both sides" argument, then suddenly a stereotypical white, apparently right winger, complete with 2 American flags on his pickup truck, attacks a Mormon church. (I am not fully informed about the NC incident, but it sounds similar). The media posts a photo of a bearded yahoo in camo holding a dead duck. Sorry, but this is so pat, I am suspicious.
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