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Posted By: Judy W., 11/29/2024 6:03:42 AM

Vaccines have not been this relevant since the beginning of the vaccine era in the late 19th century. Top doctors and scientific minds are discussing this topic extensively. Even now, those atop the world’s most important health institutions are introducing critical reviews on vaccines into the public discourse. The question is why? In recent years, specifically in the beginning stage of the toxic injectable product (COVID vaccine) rollout, this topic has regained relevance. The truth is that during this period everything changed. Distrust in the official narratives went from fringe discussions to legitimate scientific discourse. Esteemed and qualified scientists began questioning the recommendations from public health agencies in regard to

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Our globalist leaders and their "scientific" and "medical" allies are not going to take this lying down. It's bad enough that millions of ordinary people have their number, but now the doctors and scientists are seeing the light. A war of some sort is coming, between medical tyranny and freedom. I'm glad Trump will be in office soon; he has some good fighters in his lineup. (He just has to get rid of the globalist woman.)

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Venturer 11/29/2024 8:26:42 AM (No. 1844904)
Vaccines are needed. Measles, Tuberculosis, Polio, Smallpox all practically disappeared by using vaccines. Back in the day Scientists who invented Vaccines worked on them for years, and they made sure they worked and they made sure they didn't do harm. Today big pharma is out to make a quick buck. They claim the high cost of medicine is because of the expense of finding the answer. Yet medicines such as Insulin, that has been around for years has skyrocketed. Even over the counter drugs that are years old are expensive. IMO we are being raped by big pharma and he politicians are working for them and not us.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: BarryNo 11/29/2024 8:27:01 AM (No. 1844906)
Armageddon is ultimately a war of ideas and ideology. It will affect ALL interactions... Perhaps IS affecting all interactions.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: franq 11/29/2024 8:38:54 AM (No. 1844918)
The medical industry devolved into a money-making operation. It took decades. But business and political minds infected it (pun intended) and it looks like it's terminal.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Catherine 11/29/2024 9:17:05 AM (No. 1844943)
I never took the shot. Then we heard, at one point, the shot was actually a 'gain of function' shot. That means they don't know how it will affect anyone so lets just experiment with people and see what happens. Those taking the shot were the guinea pigs.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: DVC 11/29/2024 9:45:26 AM (No. 1844963)
So, the study showed that if you have taken the COVID shots (not a vaccine) you are more likely to get the disease than if you have not taken the shots. And, since my wife and I have not taken the shots, and have had the disease and recovered (beating the 0.1% odds of death) we are now immune, where all who took the shots will continue to be able to get sick again and again. What a hideous miscarriage of public health policy. Dr. Fauci should be in prison for funding the creation of this bioweapon, and also for pushing these dangerous toxic shots on billions of people.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: clayusmcret 11/29/2024 9:48:35 AM (No. 1844971)
It was being talked about before, but no one was listening...including me. I had family members talk about their child developing autism-like symptoms immediately after getting a series of the multi-vaccine shots. I thought they were paranoid. I also know a nurse who is anti-multi-vax-series shots....took her for seeing things that weren't there. But now there's finally real research breaking through the censors and we can see it's real. As the county health nurse my grandmother was on the front line of getting three generations of kids vaccinated, but those were all single disease vaccines. It's only since they started combining multi vaccines into the mega series that the autism rates skyrocketed. RFK Jr should start there. Break up the vaccines and get them back to single vaccines and wipe away the large number of vaxxes that came about for manufactured diseases.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: mc squared 11/29/2024 11:03:59 AM (No. 1845040)
The 'State' has failed to implement its 'Vaccine Passports' which were to be necessary for admittance everywhere to prove were weren't all Typhoid Marys .I never took a shot and I'm thankful for being stubborn.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Maggie2u 11/29/2024 11:17:33 AM (No. 1845052)
Poster #5, the same with us, we had the Chinese flu two years ago and I think we are now better inoculated against getting it again than those who took the shots. My husband's brother, his wife and their adult daughter took all the shots available as they came out. My SIL has developed a form of dementia and my niece has dementia so bad, they think within a few months she will be put in an institution. She has started wandering about her neighborhood, going into open garages and doesn't recognize her aunt and uncle who live just a couple of blocks from her. Her husband came home on day and found her washing the vacuum cleaner in the sink and it was still plugged in. She is only 53yrs old and I'm convinced it's because of the 'vaccinations.'
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Reply 9 - Posted by: zephyrgirl 11/29/2024 1:44:55 PM (No. 1845121)
Part of the problem is vaccine manufacturers can't be sued for bad outcomes for their products. Once a "vaccine" gets approved by the government, the manufacturer is on easy street, no matter what happens. As a result, we've been inundated with "vaccines" of questionable value - not ones that prevent a disease like the MMR, rabies, and TB, but ones that promise nothing more than a "less severe" case. Change that one thing, and suddenly these faux "vaccines" will disappear and we'll go back to the ones that actually prevent a disease.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: DVC 11/29/2024 3:13:31 PM (No. 1845178)
Re #9, your point is well taken, but it is a complex issue. Certainly the mRNA shots were an absolute travesty, especially for a disease which was a very survivable illness for 99+% of people. Only the people with multiple other illnesses were at high risk. Talking with a nurse from a rural hospital in Colorado during the Dem-panic about the people she had seen who were sick with the disease, she told of a man who died who had the disease. She said "Died with" more than "died of", because he was very sick with several other things that were killing him. But the 'old line' diseases and their old style, well tested vaccines, which were doing a good job up until at least the 1970s need to be continued. Totally unprotecting the vaccine companies may be a bad idea. People are all different and the effects of any drug or vaccine are always as statistical thing. Is it a good thing if 400,000 people get a vaccination and all but two are fine, and are lifetime immune to say, polio or mumps? Is 2 of 400,000 having some bad reaction a reason to stop the vaccine? It needs to be kept in mind that a certain number of people will die if they eat even a tiny amount of peanuts. So, there are almost certain to be at least a few who react badly to ANYTHING, including ordinary foods, let alone medical products like vaccines. So, if a tiny fraction of people get sick from a vaccine, should they be able to sue the vaccine maker out of business? We have the horrible case of these mRNA shots producing more serious adverse reactions in one year than dozens of older vaccines had produced over a period of 30 years, combined. There must be some sane level of safety defined. Clearly these mRNA shots were far, far too dangerous and were rammed through, and then MANDATED when dangerous. And yet, for low risk actual vaccines, we do need to be able to accept, as a society some level of risk. No shot can ever be 100% risk free. Remember the peanut allergy folks. A jar of peanut butter is deadly to them, and nutritious food for the overwhelming majority of us. The childhood mass vaccination issue is another topic. It appears as if many shots are not needed, or certainly not needed to be lumped together at the same time. One or two individual childhood vaccines per visit, months or years apart should get us back to the low levels of bad reaction (autism) that have been happening. Much more study must be made, and not blocked by the pharma companies worried about profits or liability. Very complex, and we risk overreacting due to the recent horrors of Dr. Fauci's ChiCom bioweapon and the horrible mRNA shots that resulted. We need to find a place where real vaccines have sane risk levels which are proven in years of testing. And we need to be certain to NEVER AGAIN attempt to vaccinate the whole population with a new 'vaccine' in the teeth of a pandemic. We were repeatedly warned of the folly of this by virologists during the ChiCom virus era, and the people running CDC and NIH ignored these legitimate, scientific based warnings.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: franq 11/29/2024 7:18:59 PM (No. 1845272)
The plan-demic exposed a lot of hidden attitudes, most very nasty. You had people nearly calling for imprisonment of the un-vaxxed. Hey, if your shot is so good, what are you afraid of? My body, my choice, right?
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Krause 11/30/2024 7:51:20 AM (No. 1845593)
It' s been a few years, is the mRNA vaccine being tested now?
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Alecto2 11/30/2024 9:05:25 AM (No. 1845673)
Covid wasn't the bioweapon, the clot shot was.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Zigrid 11/30/2024 10:29:51 AM (No. 1845750)
I think a very important thing happened with the covid mess...Americans started to question the government's forced mandate to be stuck...or else....it was suggested to me...either I comply or lose my medicare benefits....here's where I drew the line...okay...then I'll pay for my own medical care...and you can stuff your permission slip to travel and buy food at my local food store...I'm fortunate that my years have afforded me a comfortable old age...private catastrophic insurance is the answer for self control....
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Reply 15 - Posted by: PrayerWarrior 11/30/2024 2:32:57 PM (No. 1845929)
What angered me during Covid was that I caught the China virus in 2019 in CA before my Kaiser doctor knew what it was and later I was told I had to get the "shot" so I wouldn't get Covid that I had already had. My only saving factor was that I was blood tested before I had surgery and it showed I didn't have the disease (I knew I had developed immunity but no one would agree with me). That was the problem in 2020 and onward. Those who had developed an immunity to Covid were thrown into the group told they had to get the "clot shot". What an insane time in our country. The liberal Left running the government mandated a vaccine that wasn't a vaccine that caused heart and other medical problems to healthy young people specially, young men. And Dr. Fauci knew the dangers of the clot shot and what he was doing and did it anyway. I believe it did it for the money and fame/power. Fauci should be in prison for what he has done.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: crashnburn 11/30/2024 3:01:38 PM (No. 1845942)
My wife and I got the Wuhan Flu in November 2019. It was the worst cold either of us had ever had, but we both survived. In 2021, my wife believed the government propaganda and got two doses of the clot shot. The second caused CJD, think mad cow disease for humans. She immediately had a bad reaction and a week later, she started to decline. It took 5 months for her to be diagnosed and spent the next 14 months in a hospital bed on hospice. She only lasted that long because she had 24 hour home care (it wasn’t cheap!). I never got the shot even though my previous primary care doctor insisted having the Wuhan flu didn’t give me immunity. I wonder how much he got paid to commit malpractice. I walked away from at least one job because no job was worth the risk from the jab! Oh, I don’t know the details, but the doctor who tried to BS me into getting the jab was let go. I probably wasn’t the only one who complained about his verbal abuse and high-handed tactics.
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