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Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban
Seeks Exit from NATO Conflict with Russia

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Posted By: earlybird, 5/25/2024 2:59:20 PM

The position of Hungary in the Ukraine vs Russia conflict has been consistently pragmatic. Ukraine is NOT a NATO country, and when the USA essentially demanded that all NATO member states join in a unified mission against Russia, to promote the specific interests of the United States, it never made sense. Hungary has maintained a consistent position that NATO is a defensive partnership that should not seek conflict and war outside its member state boundaries. However, the USA has previously used its leadership role in NATO to pressure member states to join in conflict outside the NATO boundaries, ie. Iraq and Libya.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: earlybird 5/25/2024 3:09:24 PM (No. 1724815)
FTA: The non-globalist nation states, and the new formation of BRICS as a global trade alternative, are less and less dependent on the West; they are also diminishing the influence of the dollar within their assembly. If the needle pushes away from conflict with Russia, the value of crypto will increase. Crypto dropping indicates WEF valuations leaning toward a NATO war with Russia. Crypto increasing in value indicates WEF discussion leaning away from a NATO war with Russia. Other financial datapoints, the best predictor of geopolitical movement, also fit this general overview.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: stablemoney 5/25/2024 4:00:08 PM (No. 1724842)
I am also seeking a US exit from NATO.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: DVC 5/25/2024 6:15:00 PM (No. 1724869)
Sounds like Orban is taking money from Putin under the table.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Strike3 5/26/2024 3:58:30 AM (No. 1725011)
Some NATO members are having their cake and eating it too. The US is expected to save their sorry butts if they are threatened but when asked to pay their share of the defense network, they duck that responsibility. We saved the entire continent from the Germans in WW2 but we can't do it again with the diminished power we have now so NATO is on shaky ground.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Rinktum 5/26/2024 6:43:10 AM (No. 1725047)
NATO is playing a very dangerous game. Instead of funding this travesty, they should be encouraging negotiations. I realize that does not generate revenue for the war mongers but the people who are being killed and displaced should be a consideration. The fact that war is the first option instead of the last is very telling. Letting the war mongers continue to profit from death and destruction is so last century. We should be better than that. Even sitting here in flyover country I can see where this is heading if we do not change course. We must have some sanity in our foreign policy. War is not always the answer. There is no talk of negotiation even coming out of this administration. We can do much better and Trump is the guy for the job.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 5/26/2024 8:28:56 AM (No. 1725102)
Today's neo-NATO is sure a lot different than the old one. Neo-NATO wants to be the aggressor now and confront Russia. Why? Putin made it quite clear at the beginning of the Ukraine war. He said in so many words that the new world order can shove it. Putie is not interested in a new world order and a one-world government and couldn't care less about a Great Reset. Not in the slightest. Interesting that Orban is deciding to take a pacificist approach toward the russkies as opposed to his EU neighbors. He seems to recall the original purpose of old-NATO a lot better than everyone else. Meanwhile, Xi and his chicom buddies are just biding their time waiting to take over Taiwan without even firing one shot. #1, the quote you provided is interesting to me. Would like to read more on it. But I couldn't figure out which of Sundance's articles in your link has it. Would like to read more on it.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Ashley Brenton 5/26/2024 9:34:30 AM (No. 1725151)
Russia is in no condition to have a wider conflict with anyone.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Zigrid 5/26/2024 10:59:21 AM (No. 1725205)
And now I understand why the news indicted several days ago...that Russia is thinking about a truce option...mostly because they see that President Trump is coming back to the White House....President Trump doesn't need 24 hours to end the war in Ukraine ...I think he's doing it ...now......
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