Ford Slashes Electric Truck Production,
Because Nobody Wants Them
Red State,
by
Ward Clark
Original Article
Posted By: Imright,
1/19/2024 1:42:41 PM
Full disclosure: I'm a Ford guy. I've driven Ford cars and trucks since the late '70s. These days, most American cars and trucks are pretty good; if you drove cars made from about 1975 to 1985, you can remember what pieces of crap the Big Three were turning out in those days, but I kept my brand loyalty through the dark times, and still do today. American vehicles today are all pretty comparable, quality-wise, and with a Ford, I already know the ergonomics, which knobs and buttons do which things, and so forth. My wife and I have ignored the electric-vehicle (EV) nonsense, in large part because
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 1/19/2024 2:14:35 PM (No. 1639988)
What?? Only Ford? Who on earth pays any attention to what WTP we may desire? I mean, seriously, who? I figured the Obama clones, etc., of the world would have already buried the combustion engine in some automobile graveyard of the world so that all available would be those unspeakably ugly Frankenstein monsters on 4-wheels. I'm glad I'm too old to protest, or there'd be a CENSORED in their future.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Ida Lou Pino 1/19/2024 3:05:23 PM (No. 1640019)
If I were a serious golfer - - I mean playing almost every day - - I'd definitely buy a golf cart.
But I'm not - - I rarely play golf - - so I don't need a golf cart.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
EJKrausJr 1/19/2024 3:36:16 PM (No. 1640036)
No shite Sherlock. The current EVs are not reliable in cold weather. There are not enough recharging stations where a recharge takes no longer than filling a tank full of gas on an ICE vehicle. At some recharging stations it costs more than a tankful of gas. Battery replacements in EVs cost as much as a new EV. The batteries are not ecological complemental. Mining the minerals required for the batteries is destroying the environment.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
sw penn 1/19/2024 3:54:22 PM (No. 1640055)
People who do real work
need real tools.
Not liberal wet dreams...
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
DVC 1/19/2024 4:07:16 PM (No. 1640063)
Predictable and predicted.
Trucks are workhorses, need power AND range. For example, my old early 2000s F-150 was recently used to drive from KC to St. Louis area to pick up a wood splitter. About 250 miles, 3 1/2 hours each way. Picked up the splitter, test it out, rolled into the bed, tied it down, grabbed lunch and headed home. Stopped for gas before lunch, took 5 minutes to pump in about 15 gallons. Tank wasn't full when we left, but was fine for 250 miles with plenty to spare.
Ford claims that 44 minutes will get you from 15% charge to 80% charge at a very powerful charger, not always available. So, if you do find this high powered charger, 80%-15% means you are adding 65% charge...and if you somehow manage to get the factory claimed 230 mile range out of 100% charge, your 44 minute charge gets you 65% of 230 miles, or 150 miles -- AT BEST. Lots of online testing has shown far, far less actual range in real world conditions. My trip to St. Louis was in 20F temps at 70mph+ highway speeds. Not conducive to max range on EVs.
In an EV 'Lightning'....you would not get the 250 miles without having to stop and recharge for an hour or two, depending on the waiting time for an available charger, then get the load, then probably recharge again on the way back, another hour or two. I don't know how many high power chargers there are in rural Missouri, but perhaps they are available alone I-70.
As it was, I had pretty much all of a day invested in that trip, home after dark in short winter days. With a PITA EV truck, it's going to add at least three or four more hours, and lots of white knuckle 'will it make it' range stretching, and hoping for a functioning charging station that puts out high power. Real world tests are full of stories of broken chargers, or waiting behind two other vehicles without enough range to get to a different one, each vehicle taking an hour or more.
And my old F-150 cost new about $19,000....it's a very basic, stripped down model. I paid $4K used with 60,000 on the odometer years ago. A new Lightning cost $50K, claims 230 mile range. Real world testing shows far less range. It wouldn't have any possibility of making that simple trip without multiple recharge cycles.
I wouldn't take one for free, unless to immediately resell for whatever I could get.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
DiegoDude 1/19/2024 5:13:40 PM (No. 1640116)
Buy a golf cart. They have more range and are a whole lot cheaper. Bet those Lightenings that are in cold country are sitting idle.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Strike3 1/19/2024 6:10:34 PM (No. 1640162)
FTA: weaker-than-expected electric vehicle sales growth
It depends upon who was doing the expecting. Most of us knew that the EV craze would fail before the first Lithium battery exploded. I would expect a CEO of Ford or GM would be smarter than that.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
cor-vet 1/19/2024 8:02:15 PM (No. 1640216)
I'm the proud owner of a Ford Lightning, it's a 2003, factory supercharged keeper. Looks brand new and is the last truck this 80 year old will own! It will run circles around most everything out there, thanks to some judicious tuning!
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
NorthernDog 1/19/2024 8:20:53 PM (No. 1640222)
After this week's cold snap I expect sales to drop as low as the temperature - Below Zero.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
bgarrett 1/20/2024 9:13:30 AM (No. 1640457)
can you take the electric motor out and put in a good old points ignition 460?
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