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The Western Wall

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Posted By: Big Bopper, 10/10/2023 9:54:40 AM

Note: I published this piece nine years ago when I was treking in Israel for a while. The unspeakable horror of last weekend prompts me to publish it again, my own small tribute to my Israeli and other Jewish friends. Muslims have the Taj Mahal and Mecca. Catholics have St. Peter’s Basilical and the Vatican. Jews have a wall. The Western Wall is a stack of massive stone blocks a few dozen feet high and a couple of hundred feet long. It’s all that’s left of Jerusalem’s second Jewish temple, a structure that astonished even the Romans. The Romans destroyed it to punish the Jews for their Great Revolt in 70 A.D.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: mre 10/10/2023 10:03:20 AM (No. 1573753)
Except the Western Wall is not and never was part of the Temple. It was part of the retaining wall that held up the dirt for the Temple Mount on which the Temple was built. Some of it even dates to a later time period. It’s not and never was part of the Temple.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Big Bopper 10/10/2023 10:12:58 AM (No. 1573767)
No 1: I think you're quibbling a bit, for no apparent reason other than to display some imaginary erudition or, more likely, because you Googled "Western Wall" this morning because you'd never even heard of it. The Western Wall is what remains of the wall surrounding the courtyard where the temple stood. It's close enough for me, and close enough for Jews. Jewish tradition is that it's part of the second temple.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: mre 10/10/2023 10:21:16 AM (No. 1573781)
No. 2: Facts are facts. Jewish tradition also includes instructing a person on which type and size of stone to wipe one’s butt with. FWIW, I’m Jewish.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Big Bopper 10/10/2023 10:44:49 AM (No. 1573798)
Nos. 1 and 3: You're being kinda odd and creepy. In the wake of the worst one-day massacre of Jews since the Holocaust, you want to quibble about whether the Western Wall was part of the Temple, or just adjacent to the Temple??? Ugh.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: marbles 10/10/2023 11:07:47 AM (No. 1573818)
# 3 Cite your source
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Two Frogs 10/10/2023 11:21:35 AM (No. 1573829)
Excellent article, Glenn! Bravo!
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 10/10/2023 11:36:55 AM (No. 1573845)
Despicable Joe - - "Mr. Netanyahu - - tear down this wall!"
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Reply 8 - Posted by: mre 10/10/2023 8:21:29 PM (No. 1574182)
No. 5: b. Shabb. 8:6, III.2.A (Neusner's Babylonian Talmud) UTILIZATION OF STONES TO CLEAN UP AFTER DEFECATING III.2 A. Zonin [Zeno] went into the house of study. He said to them, “My lords, what is the requisite size of stones used in the toilet [for removing s***]?” B. They said to him, “The size of an olive, a nut, and an egg.” C. He said to him, “So are we going to have to take into the toilet a balance [to know the proper volume of the stones]?” D. They took a vote and decided that the requisite measure was simply a handful. III.3 A. It has been taught on Tannaite authority: B. R. Yosé says, “The size of an olive, a nut, and an egg.” C. R. Simeon b. R. Yosé says in the name of his father, “A handful.” Jacob Neusner, The Babylonian Talmud: A Translation and Commentary, vol. 2 (Peabody, MA: Hendrickson Publishers, 2011), 354.
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