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Hand-Wringing Reactions Offer a Clue as
to How Ron DeSantis Did at the Debate

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Posted By: Garnet, 8/24/2023 1:37:48 PM

Who won the first GOP presidential debate of the cycle? That's obviously going to depend on who you ask and to be sure, many had their talking points ready to go before the event even started. Sometimes, those talking points have to be reshuffled in the aftermath, though, and that offers a clue as to who actually did pretty darn well. For example, before the debate, there was a general consensus among the pro-Trump wing of the party that Vivek Ramaswamy would rhetorically dominate and deliver an embarrassing takedown of Ron DeSantis. Instead, the young rookie found himself on the defensive amidst several major stumbles, including plagiarizing Barack Obama

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Reply 1 - Posted by: john56 8/24/2023 1:51:46 PM (No. 1541538)
Ron needs to think of 2024 as his off-Broadway run for 2028.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: DVC 8/24/2023 2:46:59 PM (No. 1541568)
Not your year,Ron. Stop harming your future chances.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: tisHimself 8/24/2023 3:02:45 PM (No. 1541581)
There is no 2028 for this guy. Trump limited government proponents will remember every name and face that stood in the way. You cannot be establishment and antiestablishment and express a desire to drain the sweep, fix what is broken, etc.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: happywarrior 8/24/2023 3:25:32 PM (No. 1541601)
I don’t want him any year.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: commonsence 8/24/2023 4:54:55 PM (No. 1541652)
Unless something unforeseen happens, Desantis is toast, just the way it is.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: keep_right 8/24/2023 5:37:07 PM (No. 1541672)
Governor DeSantis has a great record and is very straight forward in presenting himself. All the efforts to fan flames that he's 'failing' seem exaggerated and contrived. He's a great candidate and the country would tremendously benefit by his presidency.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: bpl40 8/24/2023 8:14:07 PM (No. 1541747)
Trump is the nominee. Unless they assassinate him, the next President. You can hem haw, try to work around it. But those are the facts!
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Reply 8 - Posted by: YorkieMom 8/24/2023 9:51:42 PM (No. 1541806)
Wow, Don Jr. and Rachael Maddow agree. I want my candidate to talk about the issues, not slam each other, so DeSantis did that. Vivek was trying to be Trump Jr and insult everyone. It did get him lots of air time, but there is no there there, in my opinion. Honestly, does anyone besides himself think he will be the next president?
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