Trump to end birthright citizenship by EO?
Hot Air,
by
Jazz Shaw
Original Article
Posted By: Beardo,
5/31/2023 1:59:11 PM
Former President Donald Trump rolled out some new policy proposals this week as he shifts gears heading into the heat of the 2024 GOP primary. One of them that was obtained by Breitbart last night will probably raise a few eyebrows. Trump is promising “on day one” to sign an executive order ending birthright citizenship and putting restrictions on birth tourism, similar to proposals he made prior to his first run for the White House. These are both serious issues that we’ve addressed here in past years because they allow people to game the system and encourage illegal immigration.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
ScooterTrash 5/31/2023 2:07:41 PM (No. 1481710)
As much as I like the idea, I don't think an E.O. will work. At the least it would require legislation and may require an addition the to constitution. It's a good think to work for though...
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
EQKimball 5/31/2023 2:12:30 PM (No. 1481712)
He is surrounded by lawyers and was while in office, yet another impulsive promise to issue an unconstitutional executive order. I voted for him because the alternative was (and has turned out to be) unimaginably bad. Please, God, not again.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Gina 5/31/2023 2:23:32 PM (No. 1481719)
This has to be done. Trump is the only one who will work hard to get it done. MAGA
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
HisHandmaiden 5/31/2023 2:59:51 PM (No. 1481745)
#2, read ‘Taking Back Trump's America’ by Peter Navarro. Dr. Navarro shares all the evil that went on in the RNC, WH and EOB next door.
Sadly, Kushners too were involved…
MAGA
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
AntiStatist 5/31/2023 3:17:35 PM (No. 1481755)
Why not?
Birthright citizenship is not law- it’s an administrative state interpretation of immigration law.
There is no law codifying birthright citizenship.
An EO is just as valid as the interpretation, probably more so.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Roads 5/31/2023 3:24:48 PM (No. 1481763)
the constitution doesn't allow for the current immigration process. it was changed not by law, but by the likes of
the swimmer, old killer ted kennedy. change the policy, buy EO or what ever, and while your at it Donald, deport about 40 million of the illegals, it will do wonders for the country.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
JGalt 5/31/2023 3:27:26 PM (No. 1481768)
I was going to say that an executive order is not good enough. We must pass actual legislation to fix this problematic birthright issue which has been abused for decades now.
But come to think of it, even passing a law will do no good. Next time the Democrats take power again they will resume their mission to destroy America and as they show us every single day, the Law does not matter. They will ignore laws that are inconvenient to their goals and will weaponize and distort laws if they can use them against Republicans and conservatives. And as this immigration lawlessness has now been the policy since these bastards took over, the precedent has been established that any law can be ignored indefinitely with no consequences for any of the corrupt officials.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
DVC 5/31/2023 3:30:31 PM (No. 1481773)
Traitor Joe has done everything by EO, without a wimper. DJT should at least do it, see if it sticks.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Namma 5/31/2023 4:15:37 PM (No. 1481812)
It’s something that should have been fixed a long time ago. I think the only way it would get fixed is with PRESIDENT Trump in the WH and the House and senate controlled by republicans. Make it a law!
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Miss Daisy 5/31/2023 4:34:02 PM (No. 1481822)
Why not do this? If Biden can eliminate student loan debt by EO, Trump can do this.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
BarryNo 5/31/2023 5:09:06 PM (No. 1481844)
He should be able to.
Congress has never written it into law, and up till the US permitted immigration, again, it was understood the an infant born on American parent(s) who were not citizens, were citizens of the parent's country. That's what is elsewhere understood around the world.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
ronniethek 5/31/2023 6:15:44 PM (No. 1481899)
Don't think the view 1 expressed is factually or analytically correct. The present view is based on a badly decided supreme court case nothing more. Legal scholars debate it. I believe it conflicts with the language of the constitution which requires local birth to parents at the time subject to US jurisdiction. The decision advancing birthright citizenship is a 19 th century one. It was not thought to be conferring citizenship to people who has illegally entered or their parents illegally entered US. That is why a 1930s law had to be passed giving native Americans citizenship. Even though they were physically born on US soil they were not deemed citizens prior to that law. Logically then how can the broader concept of birthright citizenship be valid by itself?? It CANNOT. An honest Supreme CT would no longer uphold it. I don't know what the current Sulreme political hacks would do so I'm speaking to the merits only.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Geoman 5/31/2023 7:07:44 PM (No. 1481934)
14th amendment language, FTA: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens." Some have attempted to claim that illegal aliens are not truly “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. But the counterargument to that points out that if they were not subject to American jurisdiction, we wouldn’t be able to detain, prosecute, or deport them. No public law, enacted by Congress and signed by the president can trump the Constitution, including its amendments.
FTA: "I would regretfully agree that a new president may have little choice other than issuing EOs to undo some of the bad policies put in place by their predecessor, and that’s become something of a ritual over the past couple of decades. But issuing entirely new policies in that fashion should be discouraged."
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Echohawk 5/31/2023 9:17:16 PM (No. 1481996)
The 14th Amendment to the Constitution guaranteed citizenship to emancipated slaves and their children. It's been exploited by dems for decades to encourage illegal immigration. An E.O. won't dismiss the amendment. It will dismiss the exploitation of it.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
EQKimball 6/1/2023 1:19:40 AM (No. 1482081)
Excuse the second post. Under Const. Art. I, Sec. 8, the Congress has the power "to make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers and all other powers vested in this Constitution in the Government of the United States." (The President has only such powers as are in the Constitution or granted to him by Congress.) Section 301(c) of the Nationality Act of 1952 extends automatic nationality at birth to children born abroad to two parents who are U.S. nationals, as long as one of the parents resided for any length of time in the United States or its possessions. For children with one national parent, requirements vary, depending on when they were born, and whether the parents were married. Unfortunately, both Presidents Trump and Biden seem to have never consulted the Constitution or asked any questions about it. That is not surprising about today's Democrats, who are dismissive of the powers and limitations in the nation's charter, preferring to believe that it means whatever they need it to mean. But that does not excuse Republicans who want to play the same game. We have three branches of government, each with enumerated and separate powers. Presidents have no more authority to define national citizenship than to rewrite the Internal Revenue Code.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
tootall 6/1/2023 8:40:09 AM (No. 1482168)
There are many pieces to solving this issue. It is a lot, but needs to be dealt with. Clawback as well.
We are a Country of 'legal' immigrants. SCOTUS interpretations factor in here. I welcome any Nationality that can help the Country, not be a drain.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
MickTurn 6/1/2023 8:54:17 AM (No. 1482181)
Yea, an EO the next Democrap Pres will change. How Stupid!
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