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The FBI and CIA Should Be Abolished, Not Reformed

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Posted By: earlybird, 5/31/2023 8:02:20 PM

The FBI was a bad idea from its start in the days of J. Edgar Hoover. The agency began in an atmosphere of blackmail. Now resembling police forces in totalitarian countries, the FBI has become an instrument of oppression of the people it was allegedly meant to protect and serve. Reports that the bureau has been infiltrating almost all right-of-center organizations are myriad. In our elections, it hasn’t just put its finger on the scale; It has placed its full arm, elbow first. Just as it’s said that Xi Jinping’s China is “Communism with Chinese characteristics,” it can be said that the FBI is the “STASI or KGB with American characteristics”

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Reply 1 - Posted by: scottj 5/31/2023 8:17:15 PM (No. 1481966)
I agree. The FBI and the CIA have become the KGB and the Gestapo. No doubt they will be at my door tomorrow.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: chumley 5/31/2023 8:24:05 PM (No. 1481970)
Agree. They cannot be fixed. There was a time when the FBI was viewed as patriotic Americans with integrity. Now the opposite is true. If they must be reformed, FBI should operate only inside US borders. CIA should operate only outside US borders. No sneaky little deals for foreigners to spy on Americans and report back the results. No secret search warrants. Full pay and benefits for life for anyone reporting provable corruption. Life in prison for the corrupt.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: paral04 5/31/2023 8:29:31 PM (No. 1481972)
Sad but they have become corrupted and need to be shut down. Turn over law enforcement to the states and local government. Crooked representatives in DC should be charged by their state and adjudicated there.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: bamapreacher 5/31/2023 8:33:42 PM (No. 1481974)
The FBI should be abolished because the current agents aren't becoming whistleblowers. They seem to be content with the corruption. They are sitting back and watching the country disintegrate. Aren't there any patriotic ones? Also I would call the FBI the stasi as opposed to the gestapo. Both were equally evil but the gestapo were just openly brutes, the stasi were much more secretive and clever.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: red1066 5/31/2023 8:37:24 PM (No. 1481977)
There is so much redundancy built into the federal government, eliminating a few agencies won't even be noticed.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: coldoc 5/31/2023 8:59:00 PM (No. 1481985)
Abolish them. Take the ATF along with them. They have all squandered any trust they might have had.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: bpl40 5/31/2023 9:00:01 PM (No. 1481987)
Abolished with prejudice - my two cents worth.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: minuteman 5/31/2023 9:03:38 PM (No. 1481989)
There is no other option. They can never be trusted again.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: TarAndFeathers 5/31/2023 9:06:17 PM (No. 1481990)
CIAFBI has so much on Federal politicians that it is immune from attempts at control by existing congressional supervision. Only Donald Trump has the courage and ability to eliminate this threat to national existence.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: DVC 5/31/2023 9:14:46 PM (No. 1481994)
I have been saying that abolition of the FBI/KGB is the only way, reform WILL NOT work, for years now. The CIA is equally corrupt, needs the same treatment.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Safari Man 5/31/2023 9:39:35 PM (No. 1482014)
I’ll see your CIA/FBI and raise you a DHS/NSA. So much of the deep state needs to go. And we need to cut the budgets of other deleterious departments like Education, Energy, Hud, etc. to the bone. Meanwhile we need about 10 million new Prison cells to hold the criminal element roaming free today.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: whyyeseyec 5/31/2023 10:04:46 PM (No. 1482027)
Reforming the FBI & CIA will make them worse.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Heil Liberals 6/1/2023 12:36:37 AM (No. 1482076)
I have argued this for years. Once J Edgar Hoover's personal dirt library was exposed, the entire FBI should have been shut down. It is a criminal organization full of "good people." Whatever. The CIA, well there is no truth with that organization. It's whole existence is a lie.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: anniebc 6/1/2023 4:07:28 AM (No. 1482111)
Congress should be abolished, not reformed.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: felixcat 6/1/2023 8:15:07 AM (No. 1482154)
I worked at FBI HQ for one year when Mueller was the Director and he was starting to transition the FBI into a domestic version of the CIA. Maybe the field offices are a bit better - being physically removed from DC but the vast majority of employees I encountered were people who should have been working at the local Walmart and not as "management analysts" at the FBI. And don't get me started on some of the agents. You have people hired from the DC/VA/MD area who know nothing but Republicans are bad people. They're all Dems because most are too stupid to think for themselves and the employees who are black, well, most hate whitey. Horrible place to work and I couldn't leave fast enough. Tear it all down.
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