Russia loses major tank battle for Vuhledar
due to ambushes NYT
Ukrayinska Pravda (Ukraine),
by
Staff
Original Article
Posted By: Dreadnought,
3/1/2023 2:03:11 PM
Russia has lost a large-scale tank battle for Vuhledar in Donetsk Oblast, getting ambushed by the Armed Forces of Ukraine — just as it did during the attack when using tank convoys at the beginning of the full-scale invasion.
Source: The New York Time
Quote: "In the extended battle, both sides sent tanks into the fray, rumbling over dirt roads and manoeuvring around tree lines, with the Russians thrusting forward in columns and the Ukrainians manoeuvring defensively, firing from a distance or from hideouts as Russian convoys came into their sights. When it was over, not only had Russia failed to capture Vuhledar, but it also had made the same mistake
Reply 1 - Posted by:
DVC 3/1/2023 2:18:41 PM (No. 1414839)
Doing the same things over and over again. Not an ideal military strategy.
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As told by Ukranian Pravda. Uh huh. But if true, it sounds like Russia should quit with the tanks and go with their long-range artillery and missiles.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
MarkTwain 3/1/2023 2:28:03 PM (No. 1414849)
It's time to admit to ourselves that there are no good guys in this fight. The Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world and Russia is no better. But don't fool yourself, we're only in it for the money. Biden craves his 10% of all that "aid" money and the weapons sellers are drooling over the same huge pile of our dough.
No more! Get out of the Ukraine, let the Eurpopeans handle it, if they think they need to. No more money, no more weapons, and for God's sake, don't send any personnel!
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
formerNYer 3/1/2023 2:32:42 PM (No. 1414859)
Hmmm, is there a spy giving information to Ukraine? Or do they know the russian movements by just using drones?
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
TCloud 3/1/2023 2:34:31 PM (No. 1414863)
Take some, lose some! Dats War!
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
gop_guys 3/1/2023 2:41:43 PM (No. 1414873)
Don’t believe it for one second. After the NATO guarantee, doubt Russia is going anywhere. I’ve got an idea; let’s push Russia into the hands of the Chinese. Pretty sure it’s biblical. Gog and Magog, right? Their plan is to ruin the petro dollar. That will be interesting. Maybe our politicians will stop with the deficit spending insanity. I’m surprised the whiz boys at the stock market aren’t more concerned. They should be.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
columba 3/1/2023 2:46:40 PM (No. 1414875)
The war about which this post is ... is an 8-year-old civil war. The confederates (now known at the UK) started it and was losing until the United States got involved.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
thefield 3/1/2023 3:14:02 PM (No. 1414894)
The past president has said after ukraine a piece of Poland, Hungary, and Greece are next. Do we have a choice?
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
thefield 3/1/2023 3:21:34 PM (No. 1414901)
Excuse me for not being precise. Past pres of Russia.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
FunOne 3/1/2023 3:30:25 PM (No. 1414910)
It sure is a major problem when you are receiving huge chunks of income from two sources at war with competing interests.
China has pumped millions of dollars into various Biden initiatives. They own him, and he isn't going to blame them for anything--and that will include aggression toward Taiwan well beyond flying a balloon over their airspace.
Ukraine has pumped millions of dollars into Biden family members. If he doesn't keep sending money to them, they will spill the beans on the 10% deals and Hunters lucrative "employment".
it sure is a tightrope for an old crook with dementia to try to focus on.
This can end in two years when a Republican president (Trump or DeSantis), tells the other crook Zelenskyy that future assistance requires that he fess up to the Ukrainian participation in the sweet deals to the Biden family. This is going to get interesting.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
MindMadeUp 3/1/2023 3:30:58 PM (No. 1414912)
Maybe it's true, but this is the NYT. Not a trustworthy source of news.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
RedLegLeader68 3/1/2023 6:27:02 PM (No. 1415013)
What #10 said
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Subsuburban 3/1/2023 6:46:47 PM (No. 1415027)
So there are two stories by "Pravda" here: the Ukrainian Pravda and the New York Times Pravda. They are equally believable.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
DVC 3/3/2023 10:01:32 PM (No. 1416775)
Interesting assertion #3. Have you any facts to support the "most corrupt " assertion about Ukraine other than Russian propaganda about Ukraine?
IMO, US Dems are easily as corrupt or even more corrupt than Ukrainian officials.
And Russian corruption in in a class of it's own, based on having done business in Russia for a decade in the 2000s. I also did business with Ukraine in that same time frame, and found substantially less corruption, although not ideal. I also found a strong Christian church attendance in Ukraine at a grass roots level., with SRO in Catholic church services in Kiev.
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