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The ‘DeSantis Is Trump Without the Baggage’
Crowd is in for a Rude Awakening

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Posted By: Imright, 2/15/2023 4:48:46 AM

Since President Trump left office, many of the “trustworthy” media outlets have created a talking point that is now held by a minority, yet noticeable number of Conservative Americans. The belief is “DeSantis is Trump, without the baggage.” This group supported President Trump’s policies and felt he did a tremendous job as president, but now feel the baggage that came with Trump would not be present with Ron DeSantis. Many have taken this a step further and believe this baggage would give DeSantis (or others) a better chance of winning in a general election against the Democrat nominee than President Trump.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: DiegoDude 2/15/2023 5:20:20 AM (No. 1403216)
I wasn't aware that we are electing saints. Show me someone who doesn't have "baggage."
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Reply 2 - Posted by: mombogogo 2/15/2023 5:52:09 AM (No. 1403223)
It’s not Trump’s baggage so much as that it’s his arrogance, self-importance and immaturity. I was a big fan of his policies and ability to enact them, but unless he’s “winning,” he is rude, nasty and insulting on the level of a toddler. It’s exhausting. It’s frustrating. While many conservatives were willing to overlook it while he was in the White House making things happen, many of us want someone who will get things done and be the statesman that we hope all politicians could be.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: ARKfamily 2/15/2023 6:12:23 AM (No. 1403227)
Thank you #2. I hope Donald Trump reads your comment. . .
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Reply 4 - Posted by: petrichor 2/15/2023 6:13:51 AM (No. 1403228)
There are too many people who hate Trump. That's what doomed Hillary. Too many people hated her. If Trump were civil he'd probably be president today.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: GustoGrabber 2/15/2023 6:27:16 AM (No. 1403230)
If he were Trump 2.0, he wouldn't enjoy the tacit support of the never Trumpers who have been living in establishment exile from the captains chair. They created this wreck we face from within and without, complicit with Democrats and shutting out populist conservatives like Trump, and more importantly, those ( us) with whom Trump connects. No one is going to invite you to the backyard barbeque because you have a Trump sign in your yard. Maybe you need to stop clutching your pearls and have the courage to walk down the right path, not the one that DeSantis supporters have repainted.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: ARKfamily 2/15/2023 6:39:53 AM (No. 1403237)
Funny how everyone seems to now have the "dirty" on Ron DeSantis but never any on Clinton or Obama. I am so sick of the hypocrites. . .
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 2/15/2023 7:10:48 AM (No. 1403253)
When the main stream media comes out in favor of one republican over another, it is clear that they fear the other person more in an election.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Daisymay 2/15/2023 7:30:27 AM (No. 1403260)
So, Now Matt Kane is helping Trump Spread the Dirt about Gov. DeSantis. I noticed the word "Allegedly" entered into their accusations. Maybe they could at least wait to see if the Governor declares before tearing him apart. Also, something to think about. If Trump is taken down by the Democrats before the Election (which is a possibility), exactly who else is going to have a chance at winning? Do we really want to see the person who is running neck and neck with Trump taken out and leaving us with nobody. Do we really want Biden for another Term? How about we don't see Republicans taking out their own best chance of winning. Jeesh! And, as for Baggage, Trump was the King of Baggage and we voted for him anyway. Maybe the Guy with a Glass House shouldn't throw Stones at others!
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Reply 9 - Posted by: slipstik 2/15/2023 7:37:54 AM (No. 1403265)
Let's see now, what "baggage" does DJT drag around? WEF hates and fears him. The postal workers hate him. The ENTIRE federal beaurocracy hates him. The ENTIRE political elite class hates him. Military leadership hates him. Climate changers hate him. LGBTQ+-XYZ fear him. The monster known as "DEEP STATE", which in fact DJT identified for us, fears and hates him. Every one of the above groups did EVERYTHING they could to prevent and then destroy his presidency When that failed, they did manage to steal the election, not from DJT, but from us, the American people. So look where we are now. In the clutches of an international criminal conspiracy. We are swirling the drain and I doubt ANYONE can save us, but I'm going to try to help DJT have another chance to whack the deep state. Folks, when everything is lost already, what else is there to lose?
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Reply 10 - Posted by: bpl40 2/15/2023 8:01:35 AM (No. 1403278)
Baggage is baggage only if you are a Conservative or Republican. If you are a Democrat then being a Kenyan Muslim with seven social security numbers and a completely fraudulent birth certificate is not baggage. We have traveled this route many times.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Alecto2 2/15/2023 8:15:40 AM (No. 1403292)
The Globalists will destroy any political "leader" in favor of national sovereignty.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: happywarrior 2/15/2023 8:36:25 AM (No. 1403315)
I've always thought DJT vs RDS will tear up the party but after reading #2's tripe I've decided it's a good thing.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: NamVet70 2/15/2023 8:37:32 AM (No. 1403318)
"Baggage" is not the issue. Either Trump or Desantis can win is we have a fair election. Neither will win if we allow the Soros funded left to steal the election with all the means they used in 2020. Even a Trump/Desantis ticket will lose if the states again allow the left to steal the election in enough states. Trump has a huge advantage over Desantis. Trump has already been thwarted by enough traitors to know how deep he needs to go in rooting out the deep state in order to accomplish enduring changes. A first Desantis term would likely be thwarted in the same way Trump's first term was.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Corndoggies 2/15/2023 8:39:45 AM (No. 1403322)
These political discussions are just theater until the issue of ballot harvesting and voting machine “errors” are addressed. We could have Jesus running for office but the rats are still gonna cheat and win.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: janjan 2/15/2023 8:49:09 AM (No. 1403333)
These media created accusations against DeSantis are paltry and lame. Is that all they’ve got? This writer seems to think they’re devastating. What planet did he descend from? All Republicans have to withstand this BS or go home. Trump’s media invented baggage has no credibility and everyone knows it. What he presents to the public himself is not filtered. It has become childish, self serving, and tedious.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: spacer 2/15/2023 9:03:13 AM (No. 1403343)
Democrats and Lodge republicans threw "baggage" at Gen. Eisenhower. All garbahge.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: planetgeo 2/15/2023 9:06:42 AM (No. 1403345)
My biggest issue with Trump is that he didn't get the job done when he had the power to get the job done. "The job" meaning "drain the swamp," and the swamp not only got him but got bigger and nastier for all of us. He tolerated the deep state and didn't replace horrible agency heads that he had the power to fire. And the people that he did put into positions of power were generally neither competent nor loyal to him. What has changed to make it better next time? He's a one man show and the show is always about him and only him.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: bobmadison 2/15/2023 9:11:18 AM (No. 1403347)
In addition to the items in the story, check out the facts on the Disney deal in Florida. DeSantis shifted the tax burden to run "Disney World" to the taxpayers. Now, Disney is retaking control. Also, two of DeSantis' children going to a drag queen show. Also, don't see China and Russia quaking in their boots over DeSantis. Overall, like the guy, but he sure ain't baggage-free. Pres. Trump has never claimed to be an angel.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: CajunGOP 2/15/2023 9:25:26 AM (No. 1403359)
I'm already sick of the DeSantis bashing and he hasn't even announced. That said, I don't want him to run for president. We still need him in Florida. I think Trump was one of the best presidents of my lifetime but I don't see him winning again. So....where to go? None of the wannabes interest me.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: rushie 2/15/2023 9:27:49 AM (No. 1403362)
You are known by who you associate with. DeSantis and Bush supported RINO Joe O’dea for Senate in Colorado.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: 49 Ford 2/15/2023 9:51:19 AM (No. 1403391)
# 18, Trump actually had much less power to drain the swamp than you seem to believe. Saddled with a special prosecutor, often forced to rely on people whose hidden intent was to do him in, the need for senate confirmation for so many key positions (it's one thing to fire someone, another thing to come up with a confirmable replacement)...I think it's clear that no one man can reform Washington. And # 20 - I agree with you completely..
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Reply 22 - Posted by: judy 2/15/2023 9:53:12 AM (No. 1403393)
Democrat media created baggage????The fake so called republicans who say they voted for Trump twice butttt are the far worse!!!!! They must have been asleep for the past 26 months of Biden disasters!
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Reply 23 - Posted by: mc squared 2/15/2023 9:56:13 AM (No. 1403399)
I'll take rude and childlike if it means national security, minimal inflation, and $1.99 gasoline.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: 49 Ford 2/15/2023 9:58:43 AM (No. 1403403)
# 21, no Republican presidential candidate has a ghost of a chance of winning a national election without the support of the entire party. Yes, that includes RINOs. 2016 was a flash in the pan. If you're looking for a fire-breathing warrior on a flying red horse.... well, enjoy the crash & burn.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 2/15/2023 10:05:01 AM (No. 1403409)
Watching Florida 'news' and one gets subjected to an anti-DeSantis theme. It is constant. They really hate him and go after him. Fully expect it to go nationwide. Regardless of truth, people will believe, and he will be vilified just like Trump. Many people are lemmings after all. The only thing that remains is if big money thinks they can really control him. If so, they will jump on the DeSantis bandwagon. Otherwise, they will join in on all the smears.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: EQKimball 2/15/2023 10:37:23 AM (No. 1403440)
Now Trump has probably lost the Italian vote by nicknaming De Santis “meatball.” He will never learn.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: red1066 2/15/2023 10:49:26 AM (No. 1403450)
Most of the baggage the media claims Trump has is media created.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: mean Gene 2/15/2023 11:03:45 AM (No. 1403462)
I am sticking with Trump. What's the point of attending a banquet if you're just going to be fed thin soup?
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Reply 29 - Posted by: Jackie 2/15/2023 11:08:30 AM (No. 1403469)
Rude and mouthy is one think. But going after other Republicans is not right. I also don't like the way he try's to take credit for everyone else's success. I love him as Pres because he keeps the evil doers in line BUT I get tired of all the needless drama...This country is in dire straits and he needs to focus...just focus.....
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Reply 30 - Posted by: Geoman 2/15/2023 11:28:08 AM (No. 1403478)
The "rude awakening" came after four years of Trump as president, Biden took over as president. Whatever happened to get Biden in the Oval Office, happened on Trump's watch.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: Aubreyesque 2/15/2023 12:37:34 PM (No. 1403531)
Where is James O'Keefe, DeSantis? You have allies in Project Veritas now don't you?
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Reply 32 - Posted by: Jebediah 2/15/2023 12:56:58 PM (No. 1403543)
Rude awakening? Aside from those who, as Trump said, could watch him shoot someone on 5th Ave. and still vote for him (HIS words) it will be a shock to Trump as to how many of us will not vote for him this round! I just read a Newsmax quote with Trump saying DeSantis would be nowhere without HIM! You cannot believe how SICK of this behavior we are!!!!!! He lost us Ga. TWICE and lost us the Red Wave (he and the 20-30 something women who are pro abortion) because he can't tolerate anyone who says the race is over or he did not win. And I am sure he will raise holy Hell in they primaries and try to emerge winner because the vote is so split among so many candidates, as he did last time. We voted for him twice and gave a lot of $, but NO MORE. Not only should HE grow up but so also should those supporters who think he walks on water no matter what! We want a grown up Trump without the Tweets and childishness!
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Reply 33 - Posted by: DVC 2/15/2023 1:00:22 PM (No. 1403550)
First - his overall point is well taken. "Baggage" is manufactured from thin air by the Enemedia, no doubt about it. Trump is very nearly perfectly clean, and amazingly tough to withstand the endless lies and fraudulent prosecution/persecution from corrupt and criminal FBI, DoJ and CIA leaders and evil minions of same. BUT ----- Feeding someone with a nasal feeding tube is NOT torture, not by any definition. That is a medical procedure. Now, why it was done was because these prisoners were attempting to become martyrs by starving themselves to death. That is a political act, and keeping them alive with a standard alternative feeding system is not torture, no matter who claims it is. It can be very well argued that keeping someone from harming themselves is humanitarian. As far as partying with students.....OK, prove that there was alcohol involved, and even if Mr. DeSantis had an adult drink, that does not prove in any way that he provided alcohol to the students. I was at a graduation party for my HS with a number of teachers, and if cameras had been as ubiquitous then as they are now, I'm sure that there would be some photos of many of us students with teachers....drinking fruit punch, and having a good time. In fact, the party was created by the parents and teachers to keep the kids at that party where they had some control rather than let the graduating seniors go wild without any adult control at other parties. Photos like the author describes prove nothing at all. Of course, facts aren't important to the Enemedia, as we all know. So, his point is good, but the two examples aren't actually real problems - but he's right that the Enemedia propagandists can work with nothing and make it into something. A fake something, but they deal in lies and fakery all the time.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: Jebediah 2/15/2023 1:02:45 PM (No. 1403554)
And to poster #11, with Trump (and his acolytes) it is my way or the highway, even if the highway is Democrats desiring our country with their total Left Wing agenda. I agree completely But Trump---and they---don't seem to care. Enough of this Patriot stuff---if Trump were a Patriot he would follow Reagan's adage of never speaking ill of your own Party. For Trump and acolytes, TRUMP is the only Party.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: Jebediah 2/15/2023 1:07:42 PM (No. 1403557)
And as to poster #24, GOOD TRY!!!!!!! Just close your eyes and think we are all Dems in disguise! We are NOT, and YOU are one of the aforementioned "I'd vote for him if he shot someone on 5th Ave." types. He is your resurrection and your life, apparently.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: Kate318 2/15/2023 1:19:46 PM (No. 1403570)
Wow, #s 34, 36 & 37. Really? We get your point that you don’t care for Trump nor his supporters, but your straw man arguments are a little over the top.
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Reply 37 - Posted by: SALady 2/15/2023 1:28:18 PM (No. 1403580)
I like Ron DeSantis, and truly believe he could be the future of the Republican Party. But "future" is the key word. Ron DeSantis is the governor of what has become a solidly conservative state. He has a strong majority-Republican state legislature that passes the legislation that he wants. Even the media in Florida is mostly supportive of him. He says the right things, and sounds and looks like a very strong leader because of it. But if that sounds familiar, that is the exact description of George W. Bush a few years ago. He was so popular, that he ran for president and won long before he was ready for that step. He got to the DC sewer, and suddenly he had a hostile Congress (including many Republicans) who fought him and wouldn't give him what he wanted. He faced a hostile media that painted him barely one step above Hitler. Faced with that onslaught of hate and power-games, he folded like a wet noodle and decided to try to "play nice" with the Demon-Rats. And the rest is infamy. Other than his reaction to "9-11", his presidency was a disaster. I honestly believe that Donald Trump is the only person with a thick enough skin to have any shot to reverse any of the horrors that the stolen administration of Senile Joe bidet will have inflicted of this republic in 4 years. I also think Ron DeSantis is a much stronger man and conservative than George W. Bush. But I would rather see him hone his poltical skills for a few more years as governor of Florida, and then run in 2028 and 2032.
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Reply 38 - Posted by: stablemoney 2/15/2023 1:32:47 PM (No. 1403586)
I like Trump and I like DeSantis. They don't have any baggage, only Democrats that do everything they can to destroy them, thinking that is going to solve their problem, which is half the country hates their guts. It won't change a thing.
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Reply 39 - Posted by: YorkieMom 2/15/2023 2:38:52 PM (No. 1403646)
Bottom line. The primaries will tell us who our candidate will be. I’ll be looking forward to the debates. Anyone is allowed to run for President. Also, it’s not about whose turn it is. Those who say some should wait until 2028, it’s not our say. How do any of us know if we’ll still be around then. The main thing I’m praying for is a Republican President. I cannot stand another Democrat in the White House.
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Chicago Audubon Society calls for a name
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Posted by AltaD 2/16/2023 10:13:55 AM Post Reply
CHICAGO - In a letter sent out this week by the Chicago Audubon Society, the environmental consulting organization says it plans to drop "Audubon" from its name and is encouraging the National Audubon Society to do the same. (Snip) "Carrying John James Audubon’s name does not serve us well ethically," the organization said, calling out the naturalist’s ties to a genocidal campaign waged against people of color. The organization argued that Audubon had no role to play in the discovery of nation’s natural resources but merely described them for mostly white audiences.
Biden, 80, to Get Physical Ahead of Possible
2024 Reelection Fight
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Posted by Imright 2/16/2023 12:22:25 PM Post Reply
Joe Biden will complete a full physical exam Thursday as the oldest-ever U.S. president readies for a possible 2024 reelection fight. No official announcement has yet been made as to whether he will run again. AFP reports the White House has promised to make the results public via the president’s doctor just as it did during a previous medical checkup in 2021. On that occasion the octogenarian underwent a complete examination, including a colonoscopy under general anesthesia, at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center. Biden transferred his powers for one hour and 25 minutes to Vice President Kamala Harris, making her the first woman in U.S. history to hold the presidential prerogative.
'The people want answers!' Furious mayor
tears into Ohio rail crash company Norfolk
Southern as it runs scared of East Palestine
town hall meeting because officials 'were
afraid for their safety' - as state now
threatens to sue
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Posted by Imright 2/16/2023 5:12:29 AM Post Reply
Rail company Norfolk Southern ran scared of a town hall meeting in East Palestine tonight because officials 'were afraid for their safety' following the chemical train derailment disaster. Representatives were due to attend to help explain what happened and how they could repair the devastation - and soothe fears of potential long term health problems including cancer. But the town's mayor Trent Conaway revealed just before the packed meeting at the local high school: 'The people want answers. I want answers. 'Norfolk Southern didn't show up.' Asked why, he said: 'Because they are scared for their safety.'
Will he EVER learn? Joe Biden refers to
Maryland's first black governor as 'boy'
in speech - after using racially-charged
term three times before
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Posted by Imright 2/16/2023 3:38:58 AM Post Reply
Joe Biden raised eyebrows on Wednesday when he referred to the first black governor of Maryland as 'boy'. Biden, 80, was in the town of Lanham to speak to members of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers. He referenced the newly-elected 44-year-old governor Wes Moore, a former college football star, and used a word which is seen as a derogative term for black men. 'You got a h*** of a new governor in Wes Moore, I tell ya,' Biden told the union workers. 'He's the real deal, and the boy looked like he could still play. He's got some guns on him.'
Employees At Chicago’s O’Hare Airport
Say Homeless People Are Taking Over (Video)
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Posted by Imright 2/16/2023 3:06:40 AM Post Reply
Almost every major city in America is experiencing a homeless problem right now. In Chicago, where it can get pretty cold in winter, employees at O’Hare Airport claim that homeless people are taking over the place, making a mess and even making workers feel unsafe. The Daily Mail reports:Filthy homeless encampment is set up INSIDE Chicago’s O’Hare Airport, with vagrants now living next to baggage belts in crime-ridden Windy CityHomeless encampments have sprung up inside crime-riddled Chicago’s O’Hare International Airport terminal leaving some concerned for their safety as images of people sleeping in filthy makeshift shelters have emerged.
Georgia State Senator Calls Clarence Thomas
‘Uncle Tom’ During Statue Vote
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Posted by Imright 2/16/2023 2:55:34 AM Post Reply
A Georgia State Senator referred to Justice Clarence Thomas, the second black man to serve on the United States Supreme Court, by the racial slur “Uncle Tom” this week, presumably over his conservative leanings. The racist comment occurred on Tuesday as the Georgia State Senate voted 32-20 along party lines to create a statue on Capitol grounds dedicated to Justice Clarence Thomas, a native of the Peach State. In the leadup to the vote, Sen. Emmanuel Jones (D) likened Thomas to a slave that “sold his soul to the slave master.” “There’s a whole laundry list of positions that Justice Thomas has taken that I find offensive,” Jones said, adding:
Exclusive: Doctors from St Louis transgender
clinic told teachers to 'affirm' an entire
group of fifth graders - despite fears
they were being influenced by their friends
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Posted by Imright 2/16/2023 8:43:04 AM Post Reply
Emails obtained by reveal doctors from the St. Louis gender clinic now under investigation following bombshell whistleblower claims advised teachers to 'affirm' an entire group of fifth graders. The Washington University Transgender Center at the St. Louis Children's Hospital was shamed last week by whistleblower Jamie Reed, a former employee who wrote about a 'medically and morally appalling' scenario at-play.  Her claims sparked two investigations - one by the Missouri AG's office, and another by the office of Senator Josh Howley.   Now, can reveal the clinic's emails to a concerned elementary school teacher from Parkway Schools, a district on the outskirts of St. Louis.
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