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American Airlines is closing its San Francisco
crew base and asking 400 flight attendants
to leave California or leave the airline

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Posted By: NorthernDog, 12/3/2022 9:16:14 AM

The mass email hit some flight attendants' inboxes mid-flight. "Today it's with great regret that I let you know about our decision to close the SFO flight attendant base," American Airlines executive Brady Byrnes said in the September memo obtained by Insider. In closing its San Francisco base, citing economic factors and shifting customer demand, American presented 400 flight attendants with a choice that many said felt impossible to make: leave the airline or leave the state. The base is home to some of the carrier's most senior flight attendants, two-thirds of whom have been at the airline for 13


They are bailing on CA largely due to costs. Flight Attendants will have to move to Phoenix, Dallas, or some other city even further away - or will be terminiated.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: DVC 12/3/2022 9:37:50 AM (No. 1348034)
Too expensive to do business in SanFran....probably anywhere in California. Gee, what's different there compared to other states? Oh, yeah, run by Dem communists for the last 30+ years.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Urgent Fury 12/3/2022 9:54:47 AM (No. 1348044)
I'm guessing there may be the odd sky waitress who likes being in CA, but the rest are probably all :pfft where do I sign up"?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 12/3/2022 9:54:54 AM (No. 1348045)
They shouldn't necessarily have to re-locate to another hub city to keep their jobs. My older son is a Captain for Frontier and he deadheads from his Denver residence to his Las Vegas base location all the time. It is common for many pilots and flight attendants to deadhead at no cost to them from their out of state residence to their base location. All of the major airlines allow this. But apparently American doesn't want 400 flight attendants deadheading. Same issue for American's SFO-based pilots?
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Reply 4 - Posted by: bpl40 12/3/2022 9:57:16 AM (No. 1348050)
IMO, this is a blessing in disguise for normal workers. If you are a Lefty pervert, good riddance!
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Reply 5 - Posted by: US Veteran 12/3/2022 10:08:54 AM (No. 1348065)
Elections have consequences...
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Reply 6 - Posted by: PageTurner 12/3/2022 10:15:54 AM (No. 1348070)
I would think a lot of the flight attendents were thinking of this move themselves and are secretly happy about it, what with California taxes.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: TJ54 12/3/2022 10:21:38 AM (No. 1348073)
LOL! Another Dem “success story!” It does not affect me because San Fran is on my do not visit list!!
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Strike3 12/3/2022 10:36:09 AM (No. 1348082)
"Please don't throw me into the briar patch!" A blessing in disguise.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: envirodude 12/3/2022 10:49:05 AM (No. 1348087)
I fly American often. Their overage flight attendants are surly and mean. Here’s hoping they quit.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: snowoutlaw 12/3/2022 10:56:46 AM (No. 1348092)
I suspect the main reason is that "In June, the Supreme Court ruled that a state law requiring workers get a break every few hours does in fact apply to California-based airline employees." This probably means if they are based in CA the rule applies. Any bets on what party they all voted for?
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Reply 11 - Posted by: FunOne 12/3/2022 11:01:58 AM (No. 1348095)
The airline is doing them a favor if they choose to move to another state. They will be shocked at how "American" it is to live in a less democrat controlled location.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Birddog 12/3/2022 11:11:20 AM (No. 1348103)
This is to cull the "Past their primes" older stews, without facing age discrimination suits that even one of which would cost them Millions. At the same time it shifts all ground/apron/fueling expenses from one of the worlds most expensive locations to "More Moderate" COL/Wage/Tax/Expense places.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Bur Oak 12/3/2022 11:18:45 AM (No. 1348112)
If they move they will get a big increase in net income, unless they move to New York City.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Citoyen 12/3/2022 11:26:28 AM (No. 1348121)
I feel for these people. Horrible to face losing a job or having to leave your home, friends and family. What a choice.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Zeek Wolfe 12/3/2022 11:31:24 AM (No. 1348130)
When companies in California close offices and relocate to other states, Democrats in Sacramento become giddy with excitement, and in the capitol building play the old song, "Another One Bites the Dust."
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Reply 16 - Posted by: bad-hair 12/3/2022 11:40:57 AM (No. 1348136)
What's the big deal ? For the last 50 years and more, particularly in UNION jobs, if the company transferred you, you picked up the family and moved.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Heil Liberals 12/3/2022 11:44:32 AM (No. 1348142)
Where was the usual Bally-hoo about the annual "record number of travelers flying across the country" for Thanksgiving? I think people realize that the airlines, who profited well from taxpayer largess during Covid, are not the value that they used to be. It's their own fault.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: hope27 12/3/2022 11:51:17 AM (No. 1348148)
Reply 9- It's not only the "overage" that are surly and mean. Had the displeasure of being in the same airspace with a nasty American Airline millennial "flight attendant". She should do humanity a favor and get a job in a cube as a twitter fact checker and leave the traveling public alone or marry the coveted pilot and quit. Do not appreciate spending first-class money to be the target of a bitchy male/female waitress. Enjoyed responding to the How'd We Do email from American upon my return.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Maggie2u 12/3/2022 11:52:01 AM (No. 1348149)
With the news out earlier this week that the governor is planning on giving every Black in the state (and the hundreds of thousands who will be moving there in the next year) $233,000 in reparations, the flight attendants would be jumping at the chance of moving out of state. Except of course, those who are Black.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: kono 12/3/2022 12:24:10 PM (No. 1348166)
Ordered or asked? Move or quit is more of a threat than a choice. I'm not condemning the administrative decision, as it could have been the only way the company could sustain operations financially. I'm calling out the headline for blatant distortion.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: zephyrgirl 12/3/2022 12:42:04 PM (No. 1348177)
Gone are the days when flight attendants were friendly and nice. Now they're snarly and rude. I deal with them as little as possible.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Rumblehog 12/3/2022 1:00:08 PM (No. 1348192)
This has more to do with laying off higher paid, older workers than it does simply closing a base. Big Corporate HRs read the same books, and right now the "big thing" is to layoff "highly-compensated" workers (i.e. older ones), and they do this "legally" by shuttering specific locations where the census of such workers is highest. They do these site closures full-well knowing that older, more established workers, will NOT relocate to any new location, and will instead grudgingly take their severance and retire. I know, because I say my company of 30+ years do this time and time again, shedding thousands of years of valuable experience each time, like it was nothing more than dead skin.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: DVC 12/3/2022 1:10:42 PM (No. 1348201)
A relative was an American Airlines pilot for about 25 years. She taught me to despise the evil people who run this airlines. And I NEVER fly on American.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Vaquero45 12/3/2022 1:13:26 PM (No. 1348208)
Some of these people must have a screw loose. A 64-year-old woman with 38 years’ seniority, and she's still working? For God’s sake, honey - retire! You were supposed to be planning for this.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: Msquared112 12/3/2022 1:55:32 PM (No. 1348237)
Maybe people don’t want to fly to a hellhole of drugs, crime, homelessness and fecal matter on the streets. This isn’t hard to figure out, except for Democrats, who manage to blame white straight people for everything.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: chumley 12/3/2022 4:43:02 PM (No. 1348300)
I've spent my whole life moving every few years. I had to join the military to get some stability. This may be a step up for most of them. In any case, I'll steal the bumper sticker line and say "Happiness is California in the rear view mirror."
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Reply 27 - Posted by: PCMM 12/3/2022 4:44:33 PM (No. 1348303)
#24 Many here have experienced retirement and am willing to bet that many, if not most, didn’t know what to do with their newfound freedom and comfort. I’m only 58 yrs old, retired comfortably at 57, and discovered that I was truly free for the first time in my life. It took close to a year for me to actually slow down and take my sweet time doing everything. A bitter old scold may fear retirement because without their job, they’re nothing. I have no pity for such lousy humans, especially if they’re American. There’s still a big, beautiful world out there to explore.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: DVC 12/3/2022 6:57:49 PM (No. 1348368)
Re #27. I retired about a dozen years ago after working for just under 40 years. As folks here probably know by now, I have many hobbies and I make things and fix things. People have asked me 'what it's like to retire'. When ask this sort of a question, I get very "earnest" and look them in the eyes and say, "Well, I don't know about you, but for me there was a real adjustment period for me to be able to adapt to retirement. It took me, Oh, about 9 seconds or so." And a BIG grin. I have a million interests, 20 books backlogged on my reading list, dozens of projects that I can only get to one at a time, family scattered all over this country to visit, and am way too busy to be bored. For example today we spent a couple of hours cleaning up leaves in our yard, and I had lunch with two friends that I have known for 30+ years, and we talked about a niece's new baby about a month away, and a lot about a three day training course I took with some retired SEALs on a wide range of "interesting" skills that happened last month. WAY too many things going on to be bored.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: ChattyCatsSusan 12/3/2022 7:17:09 PM (No. 1348382)
If they choose to leave great jobs with the airline, they deserve the consequences. Besides, they probably vote democrat, and that is the root cause of their confusion about moving to another city.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: enemyofthestate 12/3/2022 7:45:11 PM (No. 1348404)
The ultimate vote is the vote with one's feet.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: anniebc 12/3/2022 8:55:13 PM (No. 1348431)
When I used to fly, AA was the worst.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: mifla 12/4/2022 9:20:16 AM (No. 1348659)
Tell them to send any and all complaints to the politicians that have turned CA into a state that no one can afford to live in or do business in.
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