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A Disgrace to the Historical Profession

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Posted By: DW626, 11/4/2022 11:13:20 AM

One of my graduate history professors made a statement in class once I have never forgotten: “Before you study the history, study the historian." This is indeed insightful. His meaning was simply that historians are people, too, and we are influenced by our beliefs, culture, traditions, etc. like anyone else. A good historian will try, as best as possible, to tell the historical “story” as accurately as he/she can, and such is not impossible. I firmly believe historical truth can be discovered. But there does exist a near-infinite amount of historical data available, and a historian does have to choose which of that data he uses.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Gordon Mills 11/4/2022 11:18:12 AM (No. 1324229)
History is history and needs no embellishment nor explanation. It's just facts.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: MrDeplorable 11/4/2022 11:24:21 AM (No. 1324235)
When, oh when will people understand that Beschloss, like the rest of the left-liberal crowd, is not a liar, not ignorant, not stupid and not evil but simply M-E-N-T-A-L-L-Y I-L-L. As William of Occam instructed, always accept the simplest explanation and in a country gone mad, mental illness is indeed the simplest explanation for folks like Beschloss.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: zoidberg 11/4/2022 11:29:09 AM (No. 1324241)
I only had to see the headline, and I knew immediately to whom the author was referring.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: MDConservative 11/4/2022 11:35:40 AM (No. 1324254)
FTA: "Before you study the history, study the historian." History is NOT history. Facts demand interpretation for understanding. The "why" is that element that should trigger thoughts to not repeat the event - even as farce. There are no unvarnished accounts. None contain all the "facts". The victors write the history; the vanquished tell their own tales. Henry Ford said history was bunk. He is exactly right. And once the "legend" takes root, it can hardly be torn out at the root.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: bighambone 11/4/2022 11:41:58 AM (No. 1324264)
It’s more proof that the Democrats recognize that the voters are about to pitch them off the cliff and into a political abyss in the midterm election next Tuesday!
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 11/4/2022 11:43:22 AM (No. 1324266)
I've noticed that Republicans in my area have already begun rounding up children. As soon as the final election results are in - - they plan to kill them. So - - Beschloss may indeed be onto something.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: MSUDoc 11/4/2022 11:45:13 AM (No. 1324272)
Are you suggesting I shouldn’t take the 1619 Project as gospel?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Rama41 11/4/2022 12:02:51 PM (No. 1324282)
Harry Truman said "The only thing new in the world is the history you do not know". Michael Beschloss, an alleged historian, has now undermined whatever reputation he had by blurting out the history he does not know.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Amanoftwistsandturns 11/4/2022 12:11:07 PM (No. 1324291)
And add to the list Jon Meachem who probably wrote that terrible speech FJB read the other night. Biden was seen the other holding Meachem’s latest paid staff written book to prop up sales. Does anyone believe FJB reads history?
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Reply 10 - Posted by: vrb8m 11/4/2022 12:24:50 PM (No. 1324305)
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: faceincrowd 11/4/2022 2:22:27 PM (No. 1324416)
And if you vote Demoncrat, your children will be mutilated and sexually molested. And our country will go full communist.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Debrawr 11/4/2022 3:47:15 PM (No. 1324497)
Maybe he was on Epstein's client list.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Vaquero45 11/4/2022 5:53:37 PM (No. 1324589)
Beschloss is a historian like Al Sharpton is a minister. He wrote a book several years ago about firearms in colonial America, trying to trash the 2nd Amendment. The libs and the gun-grabbers loved it. Then the questions started from the other side, as well as from legitimate historians. When asked for proof -m the form of his research material - Beschloss couldn't produce it. He made it all up out of whole cloth. He's a fraud.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: lakerman1 11/4/2022 9:00:21 PM (No. 1324757)
I trust nothing that this media hustler says. (His rate for an in peron speech, by the way, is 50,000 to 100,000 dollars.) Beschloss has no Ph.D., unusualf or a 'presidentlal historian' as he pimps himself out to be. And he hs no academic appointment that I could find. He is a popular fraud, sustained by my tax dollars on PBS.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: LaVallette 11/5/2022 7:32:34 AM (No. 1324980)
“Before you study the history, study the historian." Thta has nw been extended to " Before you put any trust in anything in the media, study the outlet and the credentials of the writer". Often it will save you a lot of time which you will NEVER recover.
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