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The Unspoken Wisdom of the Second Amendment

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Posted By: DVC, 6/5/2022 6:57:39 PM

The Second Amendment is again being scrutinized as the recurrent gun control/gun rights debate heats up. Gun control advocates emphasize the words "well-regulated militia," and gun rights–supporters highlight "shall not be infringed." The significant meaning and philosophical foundation of the amendment, however, is found in a phrase that gets relatively little attention: "necessary to the security of a free State." A free state implies necessary restraints on the armed agencies of government that are vested with the authority to use force. These restraints lessen the risk that such entities will become agents of tyranny,

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A good discussion of the broad issue that is behind and entwined with out Second Amendment rights.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: BarryNo 6/5/2022 7:47:45 PM (No. 1177070)
Let me give all you frothing, liberals a clue. If the 2nd Amendment is in place and restrainingbyour totalitarian tendancies , we humor you. If you actually try to remove it, thats the signal to kill you all. Isnt that easy? The existance of the Second Amendment means you get to live.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: jimincalif 6/5/2022 9:08:42 PM (No. 1177110)
I see the democrat talking point has gone out, they’re recycling the “common sense” gun law line. This is rich, coming from the people without enough common sense to distinguish a man from a woman!
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Reply 3 - Posted by: weejun 6/6/2022 4:53:34 AM (No. 1177303)
The hunting and personal safety arguments for the 2nd Amendment are strawmen compared to the real reason it was included in the Constitution: to prevent tne very tyranny we are currently witnessing from “professional” polticians - primarily Democrats but also some Republicans - whose sole mission is gaining and maintaining power over the American people and its huge economy. They seek to satisfy two evil desires as old as mankind: control over others and wealth. The Founders understood these basic human flaws and recognized an armed citizenry was the best way ultimately to hold thses two evils in check. And while we are again debating whether or not a civilian ought to be allowed to own an AR-15 and why anyone needs such a “weapon of war,” the rationale for individual ownership of ARs and other semi-automatic rifles is simply to give the citzenry at least some chance of countering the vast firepower of the federal government should things go completely south. Fighting against tanks and fully automatic weapons would be infinitely more difficult with bolt action rifles and revolvers - although Americans in 1776 and now Ukrainians demonstrate how the desire to maintain one’s freedoms can be a huge force multiplier.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Paperpuncher 6/6/2022 7:52:14 AM (No. 1177432)
All you need to do is look at what is happening in New Zealand, Australia and Canada (once free nations). The fact that the United States has a second amendment and has heavily armed free citizens deters the federal government from disarming the masses because there are enough of us to put up a fight. I do not see the military getting into this as the average volunteer soldier would most likely disobey an illegal order as a good patriot should do.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: bigfatslob 6/6/2022 8:40:09 AM (No. 1177481)
I was waiting for the 'common sense' gun laws for the left's mantra joined by a few RINOs. The problem is a person with no common sense and decency purchased guns legally, followed all the federal laws then killed children. The real problem is he told people before, but it wasn't acted on by the FBI much like other school shootings. Citizens have to listen to gun control nonsense suffering the consequences because of the murderer. Next word to come out will be 'loophole'. I expect this from no commonsense democrats but I really don't trust republicans.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: ArizonaGal 6/6/2022 9:35:21 AM (No. 1177539)
And please know that AR does not stand for "assault rifle". It stands for ArmaLite rifle--the developer of the rifle.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: marbles 6/6/2022 9:41:13 AM (No. 1177551)
The left is big on phases, big on style over substance. They have a wining slogan for everyone one of their failures. war on poverty , war on drugs, black lives matter, commonsense gun laws , build back better, , green new deal, etc.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Zigrid 6/6/2022 10:16:24 AM (No. 1177606)
I lived in Canada for several years...and was never sure why the canucks were so docile in their thinking...and now the commie Trudeau is using all his authority to take away the remaining firearms...it started with the Canadian truckers that were beat and financially ruined by the Canadian banking system...here's a note to Trudeau...I wouldn't be messing with the Windsor citizens...transplants from Detroit ...and now the mob from Detroit can smuggle guns into Canada...just as Canadians smuggled booze into America in the prohibition....that's how Kennedy's family made their fortune...
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Rumblehog 6/6/2022 2:23:13 PM (No. 1177903)
"We need common sense gun laws!" is the rallying cry for leftists after any tragic shooting. First Order of Business: Prove to ME that YOU who are in the Legislative Branch of government actually have ANY "common sense!" - Is it "common sense" to stage an abrupt pullout from Afghanistan after a 9 year occupation? - Is it "common sense" to give away FOR REAL "Assault Rifles" to your enemy, the Taliban? - Is it "common sense" to send $40 billion to Ukraine with absolutely NO accountability? - Is it "common sense" to ignore actual Immigration Laws while actively importing 10 million ignorant, impoverished, Indians from outside the U.S. to clothe, house, and feed, at a time that we have the highest level of homelessness in our nation's history? - Obviously, this list could go on and on and on and... Please note: the only time the leftist Media finds tragedy with the >20 shootings per weekend in Chicago, Detroit, Newark, and any other Democrat run third-world hellhole, is IF a child is killed in the cross-fire between rival drug-dealers, gang-bangers, etc. Otherwise, minority "feral youth" deaths are generally ignored by the leftist Media, regardless of weapon types used.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 6/6/2022 5:18:52 PM (No. 1178054)
Lefties, premises here well protected with 2A and with lots of lead. I regard guns as a high-speed communications device that requires no batteries or wi fi to operate.
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