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Joe Biden Suggests He Wants to Ban “High
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Posted By: hershey, 5/30/2022 12:51:37 PM

Joe Biden on Monday suggested he wants to ban “high caliber” 9mm handguns in remarks to reporters on the South Lawn. “And they showed me an x-ray – he said, ‘a 22-caliber bullet will lodge in a lung and we can probably get it out.. and maybe save a life. A 9mm bullet, blows the lung out of the body,'” Biden said of his trip to Uvalde, Texas.


Ha ha...'high power' 9mm...Slo Joe wouldn't know a high power round if someone shoved one up his backside....again, ha,,blows the lung out of the body...yep, .50 probably, or a 454 Casul...but 9mm...?

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Reply 1 - Posted by: slipstik 5/30/2022 1:00:57 PM (No. 1170465)
That is a man(?) who has never been responsible for his own survival.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Rich323 5/30/2022 1:01:18 PM (No. 1170467)
Probably referencing hollow point vs FMJ.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: marbles 5/30/2022 1:10:42 PM (No. 1170479)
He's not very bright , has verbal diarrhea and microphone access, an embarrassing situation .
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Reply 4 - Posted by: lakerman1 5/30/2022 1:15:19 PM (No. 1170483)
The Delaware Dunce, who once suggested that if someone comes to your door,, and you feel threatened, you should shoot your shotgun through the closed door,knows nothing about firearms. If he had not lied his way to evade military service, he might have learned something. . 9mm handguns are the most popular handguns just about everywhere in the U.S., I suspect. The government has gone from banning AR 15 rifles, down the slippery slope of banning handguns. (Some gun owners would not be bothered if the AR 15 type rifles were banned. But banning pistols would be unacceptable.)
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Reply 5 - Posted by: winmag 5/30/2022 1:21:35 PM (No. 1170486)
This is the new angle from the totally ignorant media. They had an idiot on MSNLSD talking about the extremely high lethality of the 223 round vs. a normal pistol round. Somebody needs to inform these idiots that you are not allowed to hunt deer with a 223 because it lacks the lethality to kill one cleanly.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: mc squared 5/30/2022 1:22:09 PM (No. 1170490)
He would ban the same high caliber 9mm most police departments use. We know some staffer told him to say that.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: BarryNo 5/30/2022 1:25:40 PM (No. 1170491)
Liberals continue to show their ignorance.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Hermit_Crab 5/30/2022 1:28:25 PM (No. 1170493)
Gee, Joe, I always considered 9MM to be a rather wimpy round until modern ballistic components improved to the point to make 9mm marginal-to- just barely acceptable for self defense. And even the best 9mm round won't 'blow a lung out of the body'. you moron. You should take a lesson from Spinal Tap: They ain't High Caliber until you can turn them up to 11 MM
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Reply 9 - Posted by: vhs68 5/30/2022 1:42:05 PM (No. 1170507)
It's got to the point now, that it is embarrassing to be an American. God help us all.....
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Reply 10 - Posted by: doctorfixit 5/30/2022 1:46:44 PM (No. 1170514)
A 9mm would not do anything to Biden's brains because he doesn't have any.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: ussjimmycarter 5/30/2022 1:46:54 PM (No. 1170516)
Would he ban the 9mm short, as it’s called in Europe? .380 here in Merica! What a dope! He might have started with .50 caliber but they know zip about guns or ammo!
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Reply 12 - Posted by: voxpopuli 5/30/2022 1:47:55 PM (No. 1170519)
hey, moron.. what part of the body would be blown out by.. an atom bomb you know, the things your illegal immigrants import
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Corndoggies 5/30/2022 1:48:45 PM (No. 1170520)
I’ve heard a .22 can be more lethal cause it bounces around inside a body. Do I sound ridiculous? I’m willing to learn.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Quigley 5/30/2022 1:50:29 PM (No. 1170521)
Oh reallly he looked at an xray and realized that a 9mm is more potent than a .22 !! Is there no end to his perspicacity? How deadly were the $85 Billion in high grade weapons he gave the terrorists? How deadly the nuclear weapon he wants to allow iran to develop? How deadly was the drone he used on the 7 afghan children? What a well balanced diaper load.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Twinkle93 5/30/2022 1:53:15 PM (No. 1170526)
Joe once said that police should shoot at the legs of the shooter. But, I do not recall that he sent that order to his secret service detail.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Italiano 5/30/2022 1:55:12 PM (No. 1170530)
Whoever writes all of this imbecilic crap for Biden and Harris to deliver have to be deep-cover MAGA plants.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Mizz Fixxit 5/30/2022 2:05:37 PM (No. 1170536)
Poster 13, you do not sound ridiculous. My gunsmith says to those with misgivings about suitability of .22 for personal protection, “stand down range and play catch.”
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Reply 18 - Posted by: JackBurton 5/30/2022 2:11:32 PM (No. 1170540)
A friend had a relative working in a drug enforcement task group. Initially, it seemed like a good idea to switch to higher capacity (more bullets in the mag) 9mms from what they were using. But then came the day when the commanding officer called everyone in and had them turn in their 9mms for .45 ACPs. Why? Inevitably, when they went to make an arrest, there'd be a firefight. The perps survived getting shot with a 9... and then became jailhouse lawyers and sued the arresting officers. With the 45, the perps usually didn't survive a firefight. Saved on lawyer fees. But, hell, everyone kept their lungs
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Reply 19 - Posted by: PESSIMIST 5/30/2022 2:12:24 PM (No. 1170541)
I know nothing about guns. But is it a meaningful objection to say that a gun can reliably kill an assailant who threatens you with serious physical harm or death? Gee, I kinda thought that was the point.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Krause 5/30/2022 2:19:18 PM (No. 1170544)
He makes it too easy to mock him.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Hazymac 5/30/2022 2:21:03 PM (No. 1170547)
#8 is completely correct, of course. The Resident knows nothing about firearms. Absolutely nothing. He's an embarrassment to the world, a perfect reflection of 2021's Democrat Party: ignorant, malignantly anti-American, immoral, dishonest, untrustworthy.... For some history, on 11 April 1986 in Miami eight FBI agents had a horrific four minute firefight with two heavily armed and extremely determined bank robbers. Only one agent made it out without a wound. Two were killed, three nearly killed and permanently disabled, two more besides were shot. As it turned out, early in the gunfight, Agent Jerry Dove hit Michael Platt with an unsurvivable 9mm wound through the brachial artery, the 115 gr bullet stopping an inch short of Platt's heart. The wound was fatal; Platt would have died if he had been shot on the ER doorstep. But the wound which gushed blood was not immediately disabling. That's the key! All of the agents sustained their wounds after Platt took the fatal bullet. He and Matix (with a 12 gauge and a .357 Magnum), fighting on adrenaline alone (no drugs), were shot a total of eighteen times before (horribly wounded in the left forearm) Agent Ed Mireles's last rounds from his back up revolver ended the bloodshed. The FBI, looking for a more capable round, looked first at 10mm, but agents' qualifying scores were lower because of the recoil. The .40 S&W, a short 10mm, was popular for fifteen or so years, but due to improvements in ammunition technology, the FBI has returned to 9mm for most sidearms. Ballistically, the wounds from 9mm, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP are similar. If you want to do more damage to the bad guy, use a rifle. Platt was carrying a (ranch rifle) Ruger Mini-14 in .223 Remington (as well as another .357 Magnum), not even enough gun to legally hunt deer, as another has said above, but a rifle is a rifle. Against one, a pistol shooter is at a disadvantage. Agent Mireles emptied a 5 shot shotgun, pumping the action one handed while holding the gun between his knees, and some of the buckshot pellets hit home, but had not ended the fight. The rest of the agents had pistols. Mireles and his brother agents experienced hell on earth that day. I admire them all. That any of them survived showed how tough they were. No amount of training could prepare someone for that.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Vaquero45 5/30/2022 2:22:11 PM (No. 1170550)
This idiot wants to take your 9mm away from you - but he gave about 20,000 of them to the Taliban! If brains were dynamite, Biden couldn’t blow his nose.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 5/30/2022 2:22:24 PM (No. 1170551)
It's not about guns. Take away Ramos' guns, and he would have acted out in a different way. Or stole guns. This is about people, not guns. Banning guns solves nothing!
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Plex 5/30/2022 2:28:03 PM (No. 1170554)
Would a high caliber 9 mm be a 9.2 mm
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Reply 25 - Posted by: DVC 5/30/2022 2:32:20 PM (No. 1170559)
The only meaning of "high caliber" in relation to guns is "top quality". It has NOTHING to do with the size or power. "Large caliber" is a legitimate firearms term...and a 9mm isn't one. That starts, arguably, at about .44 or .45 caliber, arguably .40 cal, too. The .38 and 9mm cartridges (essentially the same bullet diameters, but not interchangable ammunition) are medium calibers.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: Trump'sCousin 5/30/2022 2:33:49 PM (No. 1170560)
Hey Joe pedophile.... BAN THIS! DOUBLE BRONX SALUTE!!!
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Reply 27 - Posted by: DVC 5/30/2022 2:34:28 PM (No. 1170562)
If that is the case, #2, the police universally use hollow point expanding ammunition because it is both more effective and SAFER for innocent bystanders. I want the most effective ammo....which is why I don't use a 9mm, I use .45.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Trump'sCousin 5/30/2022 2:35:13 PM (No. 1170564)
#1 It's a male, most certainly not a man. Man is a title that is earned by conduct and moral character.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: Stencil 5/30/2022 2:37:19 PM (No. 1170569)
Who knows, #2. - who knows what in the world he's talking about? Surely not ballistics.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: SweetPea3 5/30/2022 2:37:39 PM (No. 1170570)
Oh, c'mon...schitty pants and Corn Pop know all about rounds. They always wanted to play Russian Roulette with daddy's 9mm Glock.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: LonestarM3 5/30/2022 2:43:17 PM (No. 1170581)
"Behold the village idiot, the dumbest one of all - Where others keep on walking, he always manages to fall" With an unbroken record of astonishingly stupid comments covering almost the entire range of knowledge and experience that make up the list of important requirements for responsible, moral and patriotic citizenship, we all thought our national village idiot had reached the pinnacle of "progressive" ignorance. It now seems there is no maximum dumb. “Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than evil” - Dietrich Bonhoeffer
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Reply 32 - Posted by: Mizz Fixxit 5/30/2022 2:45:06 PM (No. 1170584)
Poster 21, I believe the Ruger Ranch Rifle (.223) was exempted from the “assault weapons” ban that expired in 2004. If democrats enact another ban I expect the Ranch Rifle to be on their “weapons of war” list. I have heard good reports about this rifle.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: JunkYardDog 5/30/2022 2:48:27 PM (No. 1170587)
President Sock Puppet speaks again! a 9mm round is now high caliber? I thought that was what a .45 or .50 cal was considered. Please God, make this nightmare go away. Bring back the REAL President, Donald Trump
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Reply 34 - Posted by: JHHolliday 5/30/2022 2:50:17 PM (No. 1170590)
I carry a .380. I have seen it derided as a "mouse gun" but it's a lot more effective than the .45 you left at home. As a friend of mine said when I mentioned it, "I wouldn't want to stand in front of it". He was a firearms tech in the military. One of the insurance companies that I represented also had to pay a claim when an insured's son was plinking with his .22 rifle and accidentally killed a guy who walking on a road 150 yards away.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: janjan 5/30/2022 2:53:01 PM (No. 1170591)
Someone needs to explain to this idiot that he’s not banning anything without talking to the Supreme Court. In Uvalde the parents should have had the weapons and the cops should have sat in their cars.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: GoodDeal 5/30/2022 2:56:48 PM (No. 1170596)
How about banning high powered ignorant stupidity.
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Reply 37 - Posted by: Geoman 5/30/2022 3:31:14 PM (No. 1170614)
Re: #13 - As a Navy Corpsman with the 9th Marines and during a subsequent law enforcement career, I've seen a lot of gunshot wounds. While I'd not choose to go into a combat situation armed with a .22, the worst suffering I've ever witnessed from a gunshot wound was a young man who had been shot in the head with a .22. long rifle round, which penetrated the skull but instead of exiting, it fragmented and bounced round, creating multiple wound channels within the victim's brain. Unfortunately he never lost complete consciousness and lived for almost a week in agony.
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Reply 38 - Posted by: Hazymac 5/30/2022 3:40:38 PM (No. 1170617)
Re #34 and a .22 LR's lethality: A 1/2" pine board requires 59 ft-lbs to pierce. A projectile that will go through a 1/2" pine board in potentially lethal. Someone tested the .22 LR (a Ruger 1022, one of the nicest .22 rifles made) at distances point blank out to 440 yards. The projectile went through the pine board cleanly at a quarter mile, meaning that a .22 could be lethal far past distances where it can be accurately shot. The Ruger Mini-14 has avoided the gun grabbers' attention because the Rugers don't look like ARs or AKs. Most of them have traditional wooden stocks and look something like your grandfather's, well, M-14. The Ruger Minis are not scary looking guns. But they'll do just about everything an AR will. Not quite as customizable, or as accurate. But a pretty fine rifle, used by thousands of ranchers and farmers for varmints. My under belt self defense is usually 9mm (9x19mm) or .380 ACP (9x17mm). Less than a .380 is not enough gun--and .380 is marginal. You need a round that will create a dynamic, fight stopping wound. Central nervous system or heart shots are best. Larger caliber guns carry fewer rounds which might not necessarily be more effective than a medium caliber round. Whatever you can shoot best, and quickest is best. Having faced two armed kidnappers who had grabbed my best friend out of bed one morning, I would only have wanted more rounds than I had that day (9+1) if bad had turned into worst. 15+1 of 9mm (or 12+1 of .380) is what I prefer now. More is better.
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Reply 39 - Posted by: Birddog 5/30/2022 3:42:19 PM (No. 1170619)
Psst Dipchit...the standard AR15 IS a .22caliber(5.58mm), precisely .22 3/100ths caliber, .223 (5.62mm) a 9mm is .38 Caliber..the same as a .380, .38, 38special, .357magnum, as a rifle cartridge in that diameter it will knock down elephants, buffalo, charging Rhinos ...and Lions. By the way...that sunglasses wearing earpiece listening, gum chewing, SS dude watching over you, ya that guy right on camera with you...HE is carrying at LEAST a 9mm, maybe a 10mm...and if he isn't carrying a hidden, fully auto, actual assault weapon in that caliber, several of the guys he(and you) travel with are. IF it were the gun that is the danger? YOU would be in severe danger, as would all of those press folks.
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Reply 40 - Posted by: Namma 5/30/2022 3:53:23 PM (No. 1170628)
Ya think ole Joe would ban fentanyl, cocaine and other drugs being brought over the border so kids here in the USA would not end up like his crackhead son. Drugs kill. But he doesn’t care
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Reply 41 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 5/30/2022 5:01:08 PM (No. 1170676)
Biden you cheater, ignorant as usual, pal?
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Reply 42 - Posted by: bighambone 5/30/2022 6:30:59 PM (No. 1170743)
Generally people who know and routinely handle handguns believe that 9mm handguns are actually among low powered handguns when compared to 40mm, 45 ACP, and 357 magnum handguns and the like.
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Reply 43 - Posted by: Hazymac 5/30/2022 8:54:15 PM (No. 1170823)
#42 mentioned relative power of various calibers. An experienced shooter of my acquaintance who has shot most everything there is to shoot rates legitimate carry gun calibers from least powerful to most: .380 ACP - 0.5; .38 Special - 0.75; 9mm - 1.0; .45 ACP 1.3 (.45 ACP is a fairly low pressure round); .40 S&W - 1.5; .357 Sig 1.75; 10mm - 2.25; .357 Magnum - 2.5; .44 Magnum - 4.0. Of course, ammo is loaded in all strengths in all calibers from weak to wow. I've seen 10mm ammo that rings in at over 900 ft-lbs muzzle energy, a light for caliber 124 grain bullet at over 1800 fps. .357 Magnum is almost an ideal revolver load, assuming you can put up with the recoil that over 800 ft-lbs can deliver. I've shot full bore .357 Magnum in my old revolver, and it was like getting in the hand with a baseball bat. I didn't like it. .357 Sig (the "Super 9," a 9mm bullet launched off a necked down, slightly shortened 10mm.) can be loaded to well over 650 ft-lbs. 9mm can be loaded (Buffalo Bore or Underwood, for instance) to about 500 ft-lbs (115 gr bullet @1400 fps) which is startling. .380 ACP is usually well under 200 ft-lbs, but can be loaded up to near 300 ft-lbs. It need not be a wimpy round, although other calibers are usually better choices for stopping an attack.
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Reply 44 - Posted by: Venturer 5/30/2022 8:55:19 PM (No. 1170825)
It's ok with me as long as he doesn't ban my low caliber 357 Magnum.
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Reply 45 - Posted by: DVC 5/31/2022 1:38:54 AM (No. 1170987)
Re #34, you are exactly correct. I tell my students that the "First rule of a gun fightis....Have a gun." Whatever gun you will actually carry meets that huge first step. After that...we can discuss the finer points of semiauto vs revolver, one caliber vs another. That's all secondary stuff after "have a gun" is satisfied. 98% of the time, I carry a .45, but there are times when a KelTec P3AT .380 meets the requirements. Much better than harsh language.
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Reply 46 - Posted by: broken01 5/31/2022 10:06:00 AM (No. 1171268)
C'mon man this is Sloppy Joe we're talking about here. One of the dumbest Senators and Vice Presidents in modern history. This draft dodging mental midget wouldn't know the difference between a 45 or a 9mm round if someone in the WH told him which was which and showed him pictures. P-Resident Life Alert will find out in a few months how We the People feel about this latest stupidity coming from him.
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Rep. Dan Crenshaw on Sunday criticized fellow Republicans who continue to call for the FBI to be defunded over its search of former President Donald Trump’s private home. Mr. Crenshaw, Texas Republican, has emerged as a leading critic of those like Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, Georgia Republican, who advocate to “defund the FBI”—a position he compared to far-left Democrats’ calls to “defund the police.” “It’s crazy, and it makes us seem like extremist Democrats,” he told CNN’s “State of the Union.” “Marjorie and [Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, New York Democrat] can go join the ‘defund the law enforcement’ club if they want; 99% of Republicans are not
Hundreds of migrants line up at NYC hospital
for healthcare, food, free phones
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Posted by Ribicon 8/21/2022 4:55:04 PM Post Reply
Hundreds of migrants—at least some bussed to the Big Apple by Texas Gov. Greg Abbott—lined up outside Lincoln Hospital in The Bronx on Sunday to get healthcare coverage, food and other items including school supplies and free phones. The event, organized by the city hospital system, was billed as a “resource and family fun day” for the migrants and their children, many of whom have come to New York City in droves in recent weeks. “I came to New York about three days ago. I am a welder, and I am looking for work here,” Venezuelan refugee Adrian Medina, 32, said through a translator.
USA Gymnastics Pres Says Organization
Will Boycott States That Don’t Align
With its Pro-Abort ‘Value System’
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Posted by AltaD 8/21/2022 10:26:12 AM Post Reply
In an interview Wednesday, the president of USA Gymnastics announced plans to boycott states that have limited abortion because pro-life views do not align with USAG’s values. Speaking with the Associated Press, USAG president Li Li Leung said abortion laws will be a major factor in whether a state is chosen to host future events. (Snip) Leung stepped into her role as the head of USA Gymnastics in 2019 with the hope of rebuilding trust in the organization after it allowed a pedophile USAG team doctor Larry Nassar and other pedophiles to molest hundreds of young gymnasts for decades.
Mar-a-Lago mess: How Merrick Garland can
regain the public’s trust
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Posted by Moritz55 8/21/2022 4:30:43 PM Post Reply
In a three-minute press conference following the FBI raid on Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home, Attorney General Merrick Garland cut a defiant figure, condemning critics of the Department of Justice (DOJ) and the FBI: “I will not stand by silently when their integrity is unfairly attacked.” He then left the stage without taking questions or answering that criticism. It was a signature moment for Garland, who often responds to controversies with belated, rote remarks. His brief comments had all of the substance of a Hallmark card that read, “Trust us, we’re the government.” Yet trust has to be earned, not simply demanded
Desperate Disney: Financial Fall For Once-Great
Corporation Is Forcing Drastic Steps
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Posted by PeterWolosin 8/21/2022 8:35:18 AM Post Reply
There are certain images and names that, when viewed or imagined, immediately scream “America!” Brands such as Coca-Cola and Levi’s certainly fit this bill, as do McDonald’s and Major League Baseball. But there is arguably no brand that is more iconic of America and our culture than that of the Walt Disney Company. Whether it’s images of characters such as Donald Duck, or the mere silhouette of Mickey Mouse’s ears, or even old photos of the great Walt Disney himself, people around the globe immediately associate Disney and its brand with us: America. It is for this reason that the hideous transformation of the Disney Company
Tarlov warns co-hosts not to underestimate
Dems’ comeback; we are already getting
popular again
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Posted by Hazymac 8/21/2022 8:02:02 AM Post Reply
The foreseen “big red wave” may still be coming for the House in the midterms, but there has long been a question of how those tides may impact control of the Senate. While Fox News’ Jessica Tarlov argued “do not reduce” Democratic legislative accomplishments, her defense of the left’s chances in November seemed to highlight a broader issue faced by the GOP. The co-host of “The Five” contended the favorability for Democrats after her colleague Jeanine Pirro railed to the contrary, laying emphasis on President Joe Biden’s low job approval and perceived constant breaks from his duties. “The president has taken 150, 150 vacation days. That is five months off
Liz Cheney unveils PAC to try to stop
MAGA candidates reaching office and names
Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley as targets because
2020 election claims 'made them unfit
for future office'
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Posted by Imright 8/22/2022 1:47:07 PM Post Reply
Liz Cheney has launched a new political action committee dedicated to defeating members of Congress who backed Donald Trump's claim of a rigged election. The 56-year-old Republican, who on Tuesday lost her seat in the House due to her condemnation of the former president, filed with the Federal Election Commission to transfer the remaining cash from her federal campaign account to her new PAC. As of the end of July, she had a $7million war chest, The Wall Street Journal reported. 'I'm going to be very focused on working to ensure that we do everything we can not to elect election deniers,'
MSNBC Accuses GOP Of Pushing 'Christian
Nationalism' In Schools
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Posted by Imright 8/21/2022 11:44:26 AM Post Reply
Alex Wagner concluded her first week as MSNBC’s newest primetime host on Friday by alleging that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and others seeking to use public schools to promote “Christian nationalism” at the expense of real history and civics. During a conversation with Salon’s Kathryn Joyce took aim at the left’s latest boogeyman: Hillsdale College, “And how is Hillsdale -- talk more about the connection between Hillsdale and Ron DeSantis specifically. We know that [Hillsdale President] Larry Arnn is a big fan of Ron DeSantis. But Hillsdale’s actually in some of the Florida laws regarding education.
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