Game-Changing Weapons Begin to Flow to
Ukraine After NATO Emergency Meeting
Red State,
by
Streiff
Original Article
Posted By: Dreadnought,
4/9/2022 12:23:33 AM
On Thursday, NATO held an emergency meeting about Russia’s increasingly horrific and atrocity-filled invasion of Ukraine. However, unlike most NATO meetings, this one was substantive.
For starters, the attendees were not only NATO nations; there were also observers present: the European Union, Sweden, Finland, Georgia, Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, and Ukraine. If Putin was afraid of being surrounded before, he should take a quick look at his map now (just a reminder that Japan and Russia still have an unresolved border dispute, see Russia conducts military exercises in disputed islands). As if to validate the stereotype of the Germans being
Reply 1 - Posted by:
GoodDeal 4/9/2022 1:57:01 AM (No. 1123590)
The global military-industrial complex is back in business and business is real real good. Mitch can't be happier. He is the godfather of military hardware spending and his stock portfolio is fatter than Hillary's rear end right now. The Ukrainians have had Stinger missiles or some other foreign similar type weapon for a while and a week ago I saw a video of a squadron of Russian attack helicopters getting shot down one after the other like it was a wide-open goose hunt. One after the other a missile was fired from the ground and within a second it hit the helicopters and turned them into a ball of flaming wreckage plummeting like a slow-moving meteorite burning up in the atmosphere and hitting the ground in a big ball of fire.. It was joyful.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
SALady 4/9/2022 2:35:56 AM (No. 1123592)
This has to be the stupidest war in history.
The more the Ukrainians fight with these new weapons, the more dead Ukrainian civilians there will be due to the Russians getting more and more vicious. It's going to be a horrible cycle of death and destruction -- and profits for the arms dealers of the world!!!
The same people celebrating these new Ukrainian weapons will be crying the hardest about all the Russian "atrocities" in the next few weeks.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Mike22 4/9/2022 3:04:58 AM (No. 1123593)
They can't hurt civilians if they can't get to the civilians. If all the armored vehicles are destroyed, all the trucks destroyed, the helicopters and fighters shot down and the missiles blown out of the sky, as is possible with enough of the the new anti-tank, anti-aircraft and anti-missile weapons with trained, motivated soldiers to use them, then the remaining enemy soldiers. isolated and on foot. will die in a hail of small arms file.
Like the barkeep in Silverado: "He can't hurt me if he's dead."
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
NotaBene 4/9/2022 5:06:53 AM (No. 1123612)
My game-changing suggestion is that the Ukrainian army be given three or four clot shots from Pfizer or Moderna to make it an even playing field. Right now Ukraine is triumphant. They say.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Jesuslover54 4/9/2022 6:19:13 AM (No. 1123637)
"This has to be the stupidest war in history."
#2, you are so right. It is also the most cynical war in history,
AND YOU ARE THERE.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
bigfatslob 4/9/2022 8:13:02 AM (No. 1123699)
Good for the Ukrainians for defending themselves giving them weapons to fight back could save the country although with much destruction. I am going to hold back on calling Zelensky, Churchill in a tee shirt he's a dictator so keep that in mind. Zelensky is more Hitler in a tee shirt this is Nazis vs the Soviets. Could early negotiations have stopped this I don't know but Putin had plans for something. What put Putin's plans into motion, Joe Biden. America is weak and the worst its ever been. The world was ripe for the picking according to the Soviets while China watches. This is a useless war but Putin is not going to negotiate.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Sanddollar 4/9/2022 8:13:43 AM (No. 1123701)
FTA: The Prime Minister of Estonia, Kaja Kallas, penned an op-ed for the New York Times last week titled: I’m the Prime Minister of Estonia. Putin Can’t Think He’s Won This War.
To put an end to these horrors, the most optimistic observers have put their hope in a peace deal. But peace is not going to break out tomorrow. We must face up to the fact that the Kremlin’s idea of European and global security is completely at odds with that of the free world. And Vladimir Putin is willing to kill and repress en masse for the sake of it.
At NATO, our focus should be simple: Mr. Putin cannot win this war. He cannot even think he has won, or his appetite will grow. We need to demonstrate the will and commit resources to defend NATO territory. To check Russia’s aggression, we need to put in place a long-term policy of smart containment.
This reflects my views exactly. Putin must not win this war. Biden must stop being a pussy cat and start acting like a tiger. The suffering must stop. This will affect adversely the food supply for Europe and Africa.
I watched a documentary on Estonia's fight for independence from USSR called The Singing Revolution. The Estonians know the horrors of living under the rule of USSR.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
bpl40 4/9/2022 8:30:08 AM (No. 1123730)
There are no good guys here. They are all villains, including the Germans. IMO, there will be a quasi peace with Putin holding on to most of what he has and a face saving formula for the rest. Will Russia be accepted back in the fold of the community of nations? Will Europeans go back to buying Russian gas? - I am betting on this one.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 4/9/2022 9:33:15 AM (No. 1123809)
Beware of those posted "videos" purporting to show Ukrainian ground troops shooting down helicopters and jets, as many of these are from videogames. They can also be generated by specific software then "de-focused" to make them look authentic. Ukraine has their disinformation war, as does Russia, from whom Ukrainians learned the craft.
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I read last week on another website that an American mercenary on the ground reported there are arms dealers in Ukraine buying up the Western arms flowing into the war zone for pennies on the dollar. Corrupt Ukrainian commander are pocketing the cash. Pretty discouraging as a taxpayer if true.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
konocti95 4/9/2022 9:43:15 AM (No. 1123821)
Fortunately we have lots of surplus military equipment including trucks, artillery and ammunition nearby in Afghanistan we can easily transfer after His Excellency President Biden thoughtfully and carefully withdrawals American forces from the theater....Oh..., wait.... Never mind.
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There is an effort to turn this into the new Vietnam. We must hold back the evil communists and support democracy around the world. (what a joke - we don't even have free elections here)
Just send them some weapons, just send them some military trainers, just send them some troops...
How many wars have we fought that were based on false information?
How many wars have we fought to benefit the military-industrial complex, which owns our congress?
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
MDConservative 4/9/2022 10:41:01 AM (No. 1123875)
#7 - If Putin is getting his can kicked in Ukraine without benefit of "game-changing weapons", it is hard to imagine Dr. Evil with dreams of world domination. The PM of Estonia has his own game to play, and he's another small-time user of NATO to repel the Russians, largely, I'm sure, for domestic consumption. In the end, it's that "free" defense umbrella the US provides Europe...and the Euros are looking for a you-and-him-fight confrontation with the "Soviets". The Germans have walked away for good reason - it's madness. There is a reason why only the former Warsaw Pact and Soviet Republics are pushing this - and it's not because they know the terrors of communism. It's revenge, among other things.
Dumping Putin today is as good an idea as dumping the Shah of Iran in '79. How'd that work out?
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Strike3 4/9/2022 10:57:25 AM (No. 1123899)
Overall, Putin has been a good leader as far as Russian standards go but his ambitions have overreached his ability to take Ukraine. I don't see how he exits this one alive after all of the death and destruction he has perpetrated. Anybody running a campaign like this would have made sure that he had enough equipment and supplies to finish the job. Ukraine now has world opinion on their side and the tide will turn. This is exactly what defeated Hitler, running out of supplies, momentum and support.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Zigrid 4/9/2022 11:02:06 AM (No. 1123900)
The Pentagon got it's war...appeasing the military complex for weapons bought and paid for by Americans...but...President Trump was right...again...NATO has taken the lead because the biden cabal was afraid...they were busy with celebrating Obamacare and swooning over the King barrack hussein's return...although not many of US believe he hasn't been in the war room at the White House directing Mr. Magoo's moves...all along...
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
RubiconDan 4/9/2022 11:47:33 AM (No. 1123945)
There are so many skeptics and fools. People who lack discernment, unable to differentiate between propaganda and legitimate sources. People who were fooled once and now have retreated to the position that they don't believe anything. People who refuse to see the forest, stuck behind the one tree obstructing their vision. People who lack skills of reading comprehension. Stupid comments that repeat Russian propaganda or cite an instance of Ukrainian propaganda, so now it is all propaganda. Idiots. There is propaganda in every war and especially now with the Internet available to everyone. Duh! Naivete on parade in the comments. Here is some truth for y'all. Putin is the typically delusional dictator who stupidly started this invasion of another much smaller country based upon his outdated paranoid worldview; fear of NATO and the US, his absurd fear of WWII Nazi's, and his grandeur fantasy of creating an historic legacy. Too bad Putin but your vaunted military has been exposed as inept but savages who would be quickly decimated in any war, short of nuclear, with the West. God Bless Ukraine !
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Zumkopf 4/9/2022 1:12:08 PM (No. 1124002)
#7, Biden, a tiger? I don’t think so. More like a demented Chihuahua, barking and snarling but biting only his master’s heel ( or in his case, his Mistress’s finger).
In Zelinsky, whatever his faults, the moment has met the man. Biden, OTOH, fulfills Rev. Wright’s prophecy: America’s chickens have come home to roost. Think on this for a moment: Ukraine’s humbling of the Russians is the only thing that might deter Xi from invading Taiwan. Biden surely can’t, and wouldn’t if he could.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
FTCM 4/9/2022 1:31:41 PM (No. 1124011)
I hate to attack posters, but #2 sure has a stupid view of reality...I bet they would run away and not fight for their country!!
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Kafka2 4/9/2022 5:04:01 PM (No. 1124122)
I glad to see that NATO+ countries are taking an active part in providing Ukraine the weapons it needs to push back the Russian (Putin) offensive. If Ukraine has to wait for Biden to honor his promises to provide weapons, the Ukrainians could be overwhelmed before they arrive. The NATO+ countries are well advised to prevent Putin from succeeding, because they know that they are next.
Biden has blundered into the Ukrainian situation following very bad policy decisions. The first was the disgraceful retreat from Afghanistan that he only told our allies about after we left. The result is that we look weak and our allies no longer trust us. The second policy blunder is his war on fossil fuels. When President Trump left office, we had achieved energy independence -- we were producing more fuel than we needed. Biden's war on fossil fuel has made us dependent on foreign fuel to meet our needs. If Biden had left President Trump's energy policy in place, we could have helped Europe out by sell them some of ours. Now, we can't even help ourselves. Now Biden is begging Iran and Venezuela to sell us oil.
Oil is in a global market. When you reduce the amount available for sale, as Biden did, the price goes up. That's basic economics. The raise in gas prices started in January last year with Biden's war on fossil fuel. Less oil means oil cost more resulting in higher fuel prices. When fuel cost more, it costs more to move goods to market inflating the cost of goods. Thus, Biden and the Democrats are directly responsible for the inflation. I have come to believe that being an economic idiot is a requirement for becoming a Democrat.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
bighambone 4/9/2022 10:11:14 PM (No. 1124248)
The British Prime Minister Boris Johnson was just in Ukraine to confer with President Zelensky about was weapons he needs. Biden was just Next-door in Poland a week ago and we did not see Biden go to Ukraine?
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