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US pours cold water on Poland's 'untenable'
offer to hand over all their MIG-29 fighter
jets to Ukraine: Pentagon says plan 'raises
serious concerns for NATO alliance' in
the face-off with Putin

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Posted By: Imright, 3/8/2022 9:24:14 PM

The Pentagon has poured cold water on Poland's offer to hand all its MiG-29 fighter jets to the US, apparently as part of an arrangement to deliver the warplanes to Ukraine's armed forces where they are desperately needed to fight off invading Russian forces.The idea has been floating around for more than a week after Ukraine pleaded for more aircraft but the plan has been dogged by questions about how to deliver the planes to Ukrainian territory without dragging NATO into the conflict. But Pentagon Press Secretary John F. Kirby said on Tuesday night the deal was unworkable and would cause serious concerns for the 'entire NATO alliance'.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Rich323 3/8/2022 9:33:03 PM (No. 1094300)
Poland called Blinken’s bluff and now they are pressuring Poland to be responsible for am starting WWIII. NATO and Poland have figured out Biden is starting a wag the dog war and they want NO part of it! This is top cover for Democrat and establishment misdeeds in Ukraine Burisma Crowdstrike and now revealed today, Fauci’s illegal bio weapons labs in Ukraine.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: dirtyjersey 3/8/2022 9:41:05 PM (No. 1094310)
Do we no longer support freedom? This is pathetic. Talk about Russian collusion.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Amanoftwistsandturns 3/8/2022 9:54:41 PM (No. 1094314)
The Pentagon needs to talk to the Secretary of State- it was his hair brained idea.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: DVC 3/8/2022 9:59:53 PM (No. 1094317)
The war will be over before this bunch of fools, idiots and incompetents get anything done.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 3/8/2022 11:05:23 PM (No. 1094356)
Sorry Ukraine. You are on your own. Nobody is coming to your rescue. US doesn't do anything that's good for itself or its allies. Russia wins this round. Any country on Russia's borders might want to beef up their military as a deterrent. If you are too small to stand up to Russia, you might want to make peace with them.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: DVC 3/8/2022 11:19:05 PM (No. 1094364)
If anyone had any brains, they'd have slipped in a few Polish MiGs without any one knowing about it. Do a surreptitious repaint and fly them in at night, under the radars, radio silence. Dimwits, lame brains, losers, incompetents, fools and woke morons, as far as the eye can see.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Dino Sayer 3/9/2022 12:00:12 AM (No. 1094378)
So Putin starts a war against NATO by raping a prospective member for wanting to be a NATO member. So now the NATO nations, who could snuff out Russia forever in three days, cower and shake behind the skirts of Ukrainian grandmothers, who have fought the mighty Russian army to a halt. I guess it is a good thing she is standing up for you. Since you are too timid to stand up for yourselves. Teenagers and grandmas are more powerful and honorable than NATO. Who would have thought?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: jj1319 3/9/2022 5:14:26 AM (No. 1094432)
Pay attention to #1 as he has good info. Very good.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Toby Ten Bears 3/9/2022 5:25:37 AM (No. 1094450)
Can we stop calling the US and NATO the good guys now? These characters clearly WANT a big war. They need the chaos... it's all about chaos... Stop believing the lies.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: 5 handicap 3/9/2022 6:13:38 AM (No. 1094481)
It's not just Useless Blinken..."Affirmative Action" Austin is just as incompetent....then there' a complete waste of humanity Milley and "Pink Panties" Berger...What the hell can America expect from that group...not a damn thing!
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Reply 11 - Posted by: 5 handicap 3/9/2022 6:15:20 AM (No. 1094483)
as an addendum to prior post: At least the group have made sure all our commander in the field use the "proper" pronouns!
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Rinktum 3/9/2022 6:56:20 AM (No. 1094499)
When you can trust no one, who do you believe? Unfortunately, my criteria for truth has now evolved to the point where I believe nothing that comes out of my own government. Whatever they say is immediately suspect and upon further reflection, it’s apparent they are lying. It usually doesn’t take too long to get to the truth. How can we survive as a nation when we can’t believe a word that our government says? Illegitimate Joe Biden has destroyed our sovereignty, our reputation as the leader of the free world, our word, our economy, our health care, and our ability to forge alliances around the world. He has enabled the bad guys and abandoned the good guys. He is and will remain the worst leader in this country’s history bar none. It appears he and his team are bumbling into a war with Russia. If that, God forbid, should happen, who’s to say our allies would remain faithful to us? His dishonesty and incompetence would give many pause and rightly so. I don’t believe we can wait this out until we the people have an opportunity to vote this cabal out of office. Biden has well and truly set us on a path to war and the majority of Americans who did not vote for this incompetent fraud will be forced to live with the actions of this lawless, illegitimate, corrupt political party whether we like it or not. Elections have consequences, especially stolen ones. Just sayin’.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: F15 Gork 3/9/2022 7:44:09 AM (No. 1094547)
News flash! Nobody in the world give a flying FJB about what anything the US says anymore....
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Reply 14 - Posted by: jhpeters2 3/9/2022 7:47:58 AM (No. 1094551)
Smart move by Poland, a NATO country. So we have a new look to how the world despises Xiden. First we need to look at Putin's coalition of the willing, the willing can join in the action like Chechen, and Byelorussians or they can form s silent majority by strategic inaction, implying permission, like virtue signalling Poland, Germany, England, OPEC (members won't speak to Xiden), N Korea, Iran, Syria, and the entire mideast. Heck even Xiden was cool with a "minor incursion" Sunday drive in the old Lada and if that ain't permission then you ain't a dictator!
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Reply 15 - Posted by: DHorne123 3/9/2022 7:48:53 AM (No. 1094552)
Mega-Dittos #1 & #12. Oh so sorry that y’all are spot on. All American patriots, across the Fruited Plain, mourn with you for our once great Land of the Free and Home of the Brave.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Sully 3/9/2022 8:06:35 AM (No. 1094582)
#1 Bingo! The Poles played Blinken like a freaken Polka ditty. "Sure, we'll take your planes. But YOU start WWIII."
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Zigrid 3/9/2022 8:24:02 AM (No. 1094607)
Seems Poland is smarter than Washington....they called DC's the meantime Ukraine suffers from the Putin push for the title... tyrant....I don't blame Poland...they have to think...Poland first...the world is watching....and I'm thinking china is changing it's plans to invade Taiwan after watching Putin mess with his status on the world stage....the last thing china wants is to turn the world against their economic drive for top gun in delivery of goods...
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Reply 18 - Posted by: marbles 3/9/2022 8:48:32 AM (No. 1094639)
A whole lot of likes for # 1. He speaks the truth
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Reply 19 - Posted by: GustoGrabber 3/9/2022 9:00:47 AM (No. 1094651)
The global elites think this is their moment. Ukraine with its EU puppet is theirs to exploit and Putin doesn’t want bioweapons labs and Soros Bush Zuckerburg as absentee landlords next door.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: MDConservative 3/9/2022 9:46:50 AM (No. 1094719)
The end of NATO comes not with a bang, but a whimper. Will the US accept it? Or will it stand around like yesterday's football hero wondering where all the cheering went?
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Strike3 3/9/2022 10:22:00 AM (No. 1094777)
This exceeds Biteme's "minor incursion" red line. Can't have that. If the US gets dragged into this war then Biteme wants to get all the credit. Whoever made up that "All for one, one for all" rule within NATO must be the smallest, weakest country in the group. Any one of them shooting one Russian soldier could trigger a major disaster.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: skacmar 3/9/2022 11:13:02 AM (No. 1094878)
It seems as if the US is doing all it can to assure that Russia is able to take over Ukraine with as little resistance as possible. While I do not want the US to be drawn into the war, I also do not want to see Ukraine over run by by Russia and aide denied by others simply because the US told an ally "I don't think so"! The USA has gone from a position of leadership to being just another country. We might as well be Greece or Nepal for all the good we are doing. Poland is showing more leadership than the US regarding Ukraine. Is Biden letting Russia run over Ukraine as payback for Hunter's business adventures?
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Hermit_Crab 3/9/2022 11:20:25 AM (No. 1094882)
Four days ago, Joebama, Blinken and the Perfumed Princes of the Pentagon were begging and threatening Poland to give Ukraine the fighters... Now all of a sudden they don't want it to happen??? One might get the idea that they (Winkin [the warmongers in the House and Senate], Blinken and Nod-off [Joebama]) were planning something nefarious. Well, they were. (and they still are.) They wanted Poland to take the fall for starting WW IV, but their bluff was called. Now, I expect they (Winkin, Blinkin and Nod-off) will give the Migs to some corrupt (aren't the all?) NGO who will then pass them on to Ukraine. Then Joe can say " It wasn't my fault, that must have been a secret Trump NGO, and they stabbed me in the back!!!"
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Reply 24 - Posted by: smokincol 3/9/2022 11:43:27 AM (No. 1094907)
it was never the intent of diapers and his commie cohorts to ever help Ukraine - we are dealing with a megalomaniac in our White House who ruthlessly destroys those who rebuke or speak against him, I don't call that a proper example of representative government
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Reply 25 - Posted by: RubiconDan 3/9/2022 11:49:57 AM (No. 1094913)
So NATO countries can supply Ukraine with Javelins, Stingers, ammunition, etc. which in the hands of the Army of Ukraine have successfully held off the once mighty Russian forces and killed Russian soldiers, but an old Mig 29 is over the top? The Mig 29 which the Ukraine Air Force pilots are trained to fly? Thousands of veterans from the US and NATO have volunteered to fight for Ukraine and hundreds are already in country, using NATO supplied anti-aircraft weapons, but an old Mig 29 in the hands of the Ukraine Air Force will start WWIII? Putin is unhinged and facing a possible defeat and sure humiliation, may resort to mass murder of Ukrainian civilians and the complete destruction of major cities by stand off artillery and rocket bombardment. No matter, we must not interfere and get Putin upset or he might do something.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: Highvoltage 3/9/2022 11:55:56 AM (No. 1094918)
The Biden administration checked with Putin and he said no.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: little guy 3/9/2022 12:20:11 PM (No. 1094947)
Why didn't Poland just call Zelenskyy and tell him to get Ukrainian jet pilots up to Warsaw ASAP and then hand them the keys to the jets after a quick paint job? They don't need to "sneak back in" ... just shoot your way back into the Ukrainian air space! Something isn't adding up here. Sorry. The once beautiful Ukraine is being picked apart like a cooked chicken and soon only bones will be left.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Deborah Grannet 3/9/2022 12:38:49 PM (No. 1094977)
That Reagan Star Wars plan doesn't look so bad at this moment...
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Reply 29 - Posted by: Lawsy0 3/9/2022 1:11:47 PM (No. 1095001)
Daily Mail is pouring the cold water! Someone in our military-industrial complex evaluated the offer of planes for sending to Ukraine which has the US of A doing ALL the heavy lifting. Their personnel, coordination, then our personnel. Just a gut feeling, but this simple explanation is but the tiniest tip of such a logistical iceberg. Don't get me wrong; there are about a million other ways FJB could blank this up.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: red1066 3/9/2022 1:16:48 PM (No. 1095003)
Poland might do it simply because like the rest of Europe they think the U.S. will come to their rescue once things start to get out of hand. The question is, where is Ukraine's air force? They have the planes, but they don't want to fly them because of the air defense systems Russia has deployed which is why they want a no-fly zone over Ukraine.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: HisHandmaiden 3/9/2022 1:44:34 PM (No. 1095017)
#1 is correct… Patriot George Webb told us about it years ago. TBIYTC
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Reply 32 - Posted by: GoodDeal 3/9/2022 7:47:00 PM (No. 1095284)
Gutless Joe supports Putin. Run and hide and crawl into a local bar at happy hour and have a few martinis. Handing over aircraft is a nice gesture. But are they all operational? How many are ready to fuel up arm up and hit the runway? How about spare parts and aircraft mechanics? It's not that simple. Of course, we wouldn't want to intimidate Vlad since he has nukes and is threatening to use them. We have nukes too. Since Biden is a coward we expect nothing less than cowardice in action. But never fear. Kamaltoe is on the way over and knows that Russia is a big country and Ukraine is a small country and that Russia's invasion was bad. If anyone can bring peace it's her bringing a piece of arse to Putin's hotel room.
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deleted web article recovered by The National Pulse reveals that former President Barack Obama spearheaded an agreement leading to the construction of biolabs handling “especially dangerous pathogens” in Ukraine.The news comes on the same day that Biden regime apparatchik Victoria Nuland told the U.S. Senate that the American government is concerned about biological research facilities falling into Russian hands as a result of the ongoing conflict in Eastern Europe. Originally posted on June 18th, 2010, the article “Biolab Opens in Ukraine” details how Obama, while serving as an Illinois Senator, helped negotiate a deal to build a level-3 bio-safety lab in the Ukrainian city of Odessa.
‘Constantly afraid’: immigrants on
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Posted by Ribicon 3/9/2022 8:52:20 AM Post Reply
Macarena had just put on a pair of skinny jeans when her phone rang. On the other end of the line was an employee from BI Inc, the private contractor tracking Macarena’s whereabouts on behalf of US immigration authorities. The employee had received an alert that the ankle monitor Macarena was wearing had been tampered with, Macarena recalled them saying.(Snip)The US government program was launched in 2004 as a “humane” alternative to detention for immigrants waiting for their cases to be heard in court, a surveillance system that was supposed to keep track of people in the program while helping them access social services.
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