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Ukraine to Putin: Never Again

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Posted By: Judy W., 2/27/2022 8:02:41 AM

Word from the battlegrounds in Ukraine is scattered and cannot always be confirmed, but some credible accounts give every indication that Putin may have blundered and faces a stronger defense than he (or the Biden administration) imagined possible. The bravery of a former comedian elected the Ukrainian President and a multimillionaire former boxing champion, now the mayor of Kyiv, who refused flight and stayed to defend their homeland at great risk of their lives, is part of the story. But to my mind, the memory of the Holodomor in which Russia’s Stalin starved to death millions of Ukrainians plays an even greater role and explains why so many ordinary citizens


I can't begin to sort out the very differing opinions, arguments, and facts among people I respect. I'm suspicious of everything I read. But I do think there is a lot of truth here.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: spacer 2/27/2022 8:29:27 AM (No. 1084235)
Yes OP, as an American we want to help the "good guys". As a combat vet I want to be beside the boots on the ground and save folks. But not drag America treasure with all that goes with it half way round the world in ANOTHER bottomless quagmire. The whole thing is a mess and was preventable.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 2/27/2022 8:36:14 AM (No. 1084244)
Here's a tag team match I'd like to see - - the Klitschko Brothers vs. the Emanuel Brothers - - or - - vs. the Podesta Brothers - - or vs. the Rhodes Brothers - - or even better - - vs. the Biden Brothers. Maybe even all at the same time. I'd put my money on the Kltschkos.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: lakerman1 2/27/2022 8:42:51 AM (No. 1084251)
Bless you, Clarice - not your best effort, but I get it.When the Soviet Union fell, after a cascade of events that included Chernobyl, a Polish Pope, Hus Eminence Ronald Reagan's election, the weight of history seems to have short-circuited my analytical abilities. I am cursed while simultaneously blessed with a n ability to remember huge amounts of details, yet I had forgotten about William Christopher and Dollar Bill Clinton's betrayal of the Ukraine and their nuclear weapons. Perhaps I was distracted by the emergence of the filthy islamofascist terrorist pigs with the Iran hostage crisis, or Chernobyl, or the continuing mess known as Whitewater. All of that was followed by 9/11/01, the emergence of the Kenyan Klown, inexplicably winning the presidency, as his hatred for America, shared and reinforced by Michelle,simmered under his smile. ":All that, just for a flag,"muttered a head-shaking Michelle, early on in Barack's first term, earned a nodded agreement from Barack. So I apologize to myself for that disconnect from the flow of history. And while I take responsibility for my own short-comings, I have to blame our idiot media - a group of people who betrayed our country more than the Rosenbergs did. The media could have protected us against a Barack Obola, or a Joseph Snobinette Biden and his Criminal Crime Family. Yet the media remain insane to this date. I clicked on MSNBC last night, 8:30 PM, and a little man was interviewing Carolyn Maloney, the carpetbagging cracker who represents a part of NYC in the U.S. House of Representatives. What was Carolyn doing? She was bragging about her upcoming hearings concering the Presidential Records A.ct When a president leaves office, there is a sorting process to keep official records intact. And every president gets it a bit wrong, due to the huge volumes of documents involved.. Maloney seems to be criminallzing the process for DJT. And the leftist loons at the National Archives apparently are on board with Maloney. We, as a culture, as a country, have gone insane.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Mofongo 2/27/2022 8:59:56 AM (No. 1084268)
This could easily have been over in a day if Putin were indifferent to life. That does not appear to be his intent. He is adamant about his red line - preventing any part of the former Soviet Union from becoming a staging ground for missiles aimed at Moscow. I would say he has succeeded in getting our attention.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: mean Gene 2/27/2022 9:14:53 AM (No. 1084277)
FTA: "There were even several reports that Russian troop transports included mobile crematoria and a suggestion that this was to keep the number of casualties secret." Putin is so cheap he can cremate his own soldiers then tell their widows, children, parents that they died in accidents or of illnesses. Thus he denies the surviving families combat benefits.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Toby Ten Bears 2/27/2022 9:22:28 AM (No. 1084284)
We must protect the Biden family's cash cow! Let's forget about OUR border... Don't look at the Freedom Convoys. Spy-Gate. The coming Covid scandal. Let us forget about the tyranny in Canada.... Cash Cow!!! SAVE!!!
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Quigley 2/27/2022 9:23:08 AM (No. 1084286)
One bit of truth in the article is that bidet wanted the president to flee. And that the dims misunderestimated the ukrainians fighting spirit. As obama said schmoe is always wrong and f’s up everything he comes into contact with. Ditto the college professor utopiasts/propagandists in his klepto-regime. Actually the bidet klan is like putin, an invading force trying to take over our country.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: ChattyCatsSusan 2/27/2022 9:39:27 AM (No. 1084302)
Until somebody proves different to me, that this baying for Putin's head isn't a cry to protect the corrupted financial assets of US politicians and corrupt Ukrainian politicians, I am still not convinced that Putin is the bad guy here. Especially since he is protecting Chernobyl from any Ukrainian terrorist attack that might happen.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Venturer 2/27/2022 9:40:37 AM (No. 1084306)
It's impressive and heroic to watch people fight for their own country instead of bowing down to a bigger foe. My prayer is that they send the Russian troops home in defeat. If Russia wins what have they got? A country that will forever hate them for killing their loved ones and destroying their country. This is not Hitler's Austria.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: marbles 2/27/2022 10:00:33 AM (No. 1084332)
I like and respect Clarice Feldman but the sunflower seeds story, the Snake Island story have been debunked. . They were put out there by others for emotional manipulation.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: MDConservative 2/27/2022 10:20:59 AM (No. 1084357)
Wade through the propaganda, the pictures of bloody elders, crying children, and determined women taking up arms to defend the homeland. Reminds me of the last days of Berlin in '45 - Volksturm with panzerfaust, "Berlin bleibt Deutsch" painted on walls, and all the rest. The question is not whether Ukraine can successfully defend itself, but how far Russia/Putin will go for victory. It appears talks are now taking shape after Putin reportedly threatened use of nukes. The expectation is that Ukraine will renounce any efforts to ever join NATO, that it will largely disarm, and cede those breakaway "regions" to Russia. In return Russia sends "aid". Let's watch the kabuki of negotiations. German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said, “It threatens our entire post-war order." And that's the real rub in the West, which is dismantling its "democracy" while trying to rally the boobs to defend Ukraine's.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 2/27/2022 10:39:04 AM (No. 1084386)
I just want to see a strategy where Ukraine actually wins this war. My fear is this war will turn into a slaughter on a scale far worse than anything we have seen recently. Wars are not won in four days. The US did not defeat Iraq in four days. All these stories saying Potatohead is in trouble are hogwash. He never planned to defeat Ukraine in just four days. I'm not cheering on the Ukrainians. At least not until they show me a winning strategy. I have a problem cheering on people so they can be slaughtered.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: justavoter 2/27/2022 10:50:24 AM (No. 1084403)
Who knew, war is a cure for Covid. Not a mask in sight
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Reply 14 - Posted by: JackBurton 2/27/2022 11:21:00 AM (No. 1084450)
Fancy that. Ukranians remember the Holodomor. It's why WE should learn HISTORY.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Kate318 2/27/2022 12:03:55 PM (No. 1084527)
The Ukraine is supposedly fighting for their very existence and yet their dear leader has time for social media posts, and to put out communications daily, if not hourly? Photos released from the supposed battlefield are remarkably similar to photos of different conflicts and emergency situations from several years ago? Meanwhile, Putin has taken out almost all Wuhan-type bioweapons labs in the Ukraine. I would say that Putin is smart enough to know he does not want that threat next door. The global elite with the help of the media media are playing us.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: snowoutlaw 2/27/2022 12:19:09 PM (No. 1084553)
Who knows what is true but seems that a lot of the RU losses we hear about must be true otherwise Ukraine would have already lost. As with the Battle of Britain in 1940, Ukraine wins by not losing.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: DVC 2/27/2022 12:20:11 PM (No. 1084555)
Best wishes to the Ukrainians. I hope that they can gather lots of weapons to repel this invasion. There is an outdoor museum in Kiev that I visited several times, chock full of armored vehicles, tanks, tank killers, and artillery. I wonder if any of them can be made to run? There is an ancient ISU-152 heavy tank, old and maybe slow, there. They have no turret so cannot slew left and right much, needed to be engaging at long range, preferably defending a narrow choke point from long range so the targets are in a narrow area. But they carried a 152 mm main gun, still extremely powerful. Of course is there the right ammo, and are the engines able to run? Have the guns been disabled in the museum? I don't know how desperate the Ukrainians are, and whether this old WW2 monsters might once again roar, but they are there, and appeared intact. At the 9:30 mark in this video, he covers the outdoor museum filled with old tanks, I walked the three or four miles down to this museum several times on a Saturday in Kiev. Some of them served into the 70s. If you watch from the beginning, he shows the exterior of their WW2 museum, with the giant stainless steel lady with a sword, Rhodina Mat, Mother of the Motherland, over 300 feet tall, IIRC.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Kumoan 2/27/2022 12:35:40 PM (No. 1084570)
I hope a prominent part of whatever peace treaty that gets signed includes strong, detailed language that prohibits any truck or trade with the Biden crime family specifically and any member, or suspected member of the Demorat party generally, on pain of death. No good has come to Ukraine from that army of evil carpetbaggers.
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