Germany to send Ukraine weapons in historic
shift on military aid
Politico,
by
David M Herszenhorn *
Original Article
Posted By: Dreadnought,
2/26/2022 3:11:54 PM
Germany on Saturday reversed a historic policy of never sending weapons to conflict zones, saying the Russian invasion of Ukraine was an epochal moment that imperiled the entire post-World War II order across Europe.
The decision was an abrupt change in course, coming after Berlin clung to its initial position for weeks despite the rising Russian menace and pressure from EU and NATO allies.
On Saturday, Berlin finally bowed to that pressure, and to the reality that Russia is encircling Ukrainian cities and threatening to topple the government in Kyiv.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Ida Lou Pino 2/26/2022 3:38:56 PM (No. 1083749)
Good! Ukraine desperately needs motorcycles with sidecars.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
The Remnants 2/26/2022 3:42:41 PM (No. 1083756)
Don't know much about geopolitics, but I believe this is the right thing to do.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
thomthomp 2/26/2022 3:46:05 PM (No. 1083759)
The new motto of the West is the same as the old motto of the 1930s West : "Too little too late."
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Omen55 2/26/2022 3:47:56 PM (No. 1083761)
Vlad did not see that coming!
If they can get more anti-aircraft & anti-tank weapons to Ukraine the body count on the Russians is gonna go beyond Da Plan.
Vlad can't have this go deep into March.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
rochow 2/26/2022 3:55:48 PM (No. 1083764)
Really? The last time the Krauts send something were outdated tanks from WWII!!!!!
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Moritz55 2/26/2022 3:57:23 PM (No. 1083766)
Now if Germany will just go along with blocking Russia from the SWIFT system, that might actually make a big difference for Ukraine
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Moritz55 2/26/2022 4:00:48 PM (No. 1083769)
Update. Apparently Germany HAS agreed to block Russia from the SWIFT system!
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
DVC 2/26/2022 4:05:43 PM (No. 1083772)
Good news and all that, but is it too late? And how likely are they to get to Ukrainian forces at all?
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 2/26/2022 4:06:55 PM (No. 1083774)
Will Ukraine be able to hold out until it starts receiving support? Can see the Ukraine being defeated in two weeks. They need weapons NOW.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
sw penn 2/26/2022 4:36:54 PM (No. 1083795)
Sacrificial drones are what wins wars today.
See also: The 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh War
You hear that, then you can take it seriously...
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
montwoodcliff 2/26/2022 5:04:28 PM (No. 1083819)
Like China, I think Germany sees events for Russia going badly.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
watashiyo 2/26/2022 5:05:26 PM (No. 1083820)
They'll be sending knives.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
swarfer 2/26/2022 5:36:56 PM (No. 1083840)
This a terrible new dimension to the conflict people do not understand. Continually feeding in high tech deadly weapons, arming untrained civilians witch automatic weapons and Molotov cocktails will turn Ukraine into another Syria. Russia will now go all out. They’ve been somewhat restrained taking casualties not using massed artillery bombardment just discreet missile and air strikes. If they can’t fly over and have to protect their armor due to these weapons showing up large numbers then they will pound them with long range artillery with minimal risk but terrible damage. The Russians may be behind the West in tech, comm and aircraft but way ahead in artillery. Germany getting involved just raises the emotional stakes for Russian solders who lost family members in WWII. The news just keeps getting worse. If you haven’t already, start praying. This isn’t Iraq or Afghanistan where the stakes were minimal to the West.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
jhpeters2 2/26/2022 5:56:26 PM (No. 1083853)
Germany maybe smelling blood in the water and in the streets. Putin is getting all he wants and the Ukrainians seem to be giving him a lot more. Putin stepping down and exiling himself to Delaware under a phony identity is an option. Lets just watch.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Scribelus 2/26/2022 6:00:19 PM (No. 1083859)
Ausgezeichnet! Karl-Heinz can finally get rid if those 1942 Mausers cached in the Bavarian cave.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Birddog 2/26/2022 6:09:19 PM (No. 1083867)
Russians tanks/Trucks/APCs are already running out of fuel...likely shells soon as well. There are several videos of random Ukraine civilians stopping by them on the roads and making fun of them...saying, surrender now I'll give you a ride to town. The Troops do not even know where they are, where they are going. Without a supply line they are now trapped.
Putin may end up looking like Custer...
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Birddog 2/26/2022 6:17:30 PM (No. 1083875)
Someone said "The russians remember fighting the Germans and..." Much of that took PLACE in the Ukraine...Russians played a slow retreat/scorched earth eastward across Ukraine, taking the factory equipt. flooding the mines, taking all of the crops, killing all the livestock, seizing supplies, destroying all of the infrastructure...Nazi held the area for 2-3 years...then the Russians in turn pushed THEM back west...while the Germans did the same scorched earth retreat as they went.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
lakerman1 2/26/2022 8:10:15 PM (No. 1083952)
Even though I believe, #7, that I know almost everything, I do not know much about the SWIFT system or cryptocurrency.
But couldn't the dark market cryptocurrency stuff sustain Putin?
I clicked on MSNBC ;last night, and Rachel Maddow was interviewing a former info girl from the State Department. The info girl was jumping up and down with delight, saying that we had financially shut down Putin completely, sort of like canceling his visa card, I guess, so that he could not even travel outside of Russia. And Rachel ,who knows better, was about to wet herself with glee, as she praised the info girl..
A head of State, unless under indictment, goes any damned where he wants to, in the world, with full diplomatic immunity, Putin probably travels with a ton of gold or so, and doesn't need a Visa card.
It offends me that Rachel Maddow would go along with State Department lies. She knows better.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
downnout 2/26/2022 8:31:46 PM (No. 1083965)
And how are these weapons going to get to Ukraine? Unicorns?
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