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The Texas vs. California Challenge

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Posted By: ladydawgfan, 12/27/2021 12:32:12 PM

Leaving California for Texas is such a conformist thing to do these days, but I did for a short vacation to America. In Houston, I went into an H.E.B. and was talking about California to someone who was giving away free samples of beef – having conversations with random people is a huge difference from LA – and I had to reassure the guy I was going home. He seemed relieved. I’ve been coming to Texas intermittently for about 30 years, and it’s never seemed more crowded. The place is packed – the roads, the stores, the airport. Back home in LA, it’s empty and depressing

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Maggie2u 12/27/2021 12:44:03 PM (No. 1020128)
Our daughter and SIL live outside of Houston. When we visited them a few years ago, we were at a BBQ restaurant called the Tin Roof. A group of boys about 13-14 yrs old, in dusty baseball uniforms were in front of us so I asked one boy if they had won...He said...'no Ma'am, but we will tomorrow.' I was struck by his politeness and his confidence. Texas rocks.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Texpub 12/27/2021 12:46:51 PM (No. 1020131)
Don't California my Texas. One comment about Dan Crenshaw. He is a big disappointment to me. Way wrong on some issues, and he's a friend of Liz Cheney. Another comment is about the Texas traffic. We have a whole lot of illegals and transplants from other states. They do not necessarily drive friendly. But, a contest between Texas and California is really no contest at all. TEXAS wins hands down.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: earlybird 12/27/2021 12:51:04 PM (No. 1020133)
I spent a lot of time in Houston in the late 70s. Turned down a transfer to our office there which would have meant a significant raise. It rained for two days; then stopped for two or three; then…. repeat. Endlessly. The ground was like a sponge. The humidity would smack you in the face the moment you got off the plane and stay with you until you left. In that era Houston was going very trendy. Discos everywhere. Barbie Doll blonde was the current fad; I was a total misfit as a brunette… just wasn’t done. People were superficial. I don’t know where Schlichter lives, but it isn’t in the parts of California where I have always been fortunate to live. Move to Houston? Forgetaboutit. (And who would ruin a perfectly good hamburger with mustard?)
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Reply 4 - Posted by: udanja99 12/27/2021 1:02:19 PM (No. 1020140)
I’ve driven in both LA and all the way across Texas. I’ll take Texas any day, but I will note that there are insane and rude drivers everywhere. I see it here in South Carolina every time I get in the car. I blame it on a lack of good manners, which apparently are no longer taught anywhere in society.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: akudaq 12/27/2021 1:11:07 PM (No. 1020152)
I've also had serious doubts about Dan Crenshaw. He hasn't made his voice heard in support of President Trump, he's denied anything being hinky with the election/voting, had a good time writing and starring in a campaign ad with some other veterans and conservative folks (https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/dan-crenshaws-texas-campaign-ad-looks-like-an-action-movie-trailer/), as well as what #2 said. I'm hoping he starts to show his readiness to fight for and defend our conservative rights. Having fought for our country he isn't guilty of stolen valor. But presenting himself as a strong conservative, then hanging with the rinos (Liz, Mitt, etc.) makes him guilty of misused valor, IMHO. I really want to see him do well for our country.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Daisymay 12/27/2021 1:12:53 PM (No. 1020153)
I always love everything that Kurt writes, but I think he should not only consider comparing CA with Texas, he should also give Florida a comparison! We have the Best Governor in the Country. We have wonderful weather, and if he's a golfer he won't find a better place than The Villages to live. We are armed, have the most Conceal and Carry Permit in the country and great Shooting Ranges to practice if you care to! We do not tolerate Looters, Mobs, BLM burning down our Cities or Towns. Yes, we do have a few pockets where Thugs live (and you wouldn't want to drive through), but they are content to kill and plunder each other, so we ignore them. I've never been to Texas, but I've been to CA and I would never want to live there!! But then I was raised in Illinois, and right now, I wouldn't want to ever live there again either!
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Rumblehog 12/27/2021 1:55:50 PM (No. 1020185)
It's true about the crowding. When we moved here over 20 years ago there had been an exodus about 5 years prior when the Telecom boom went bust, with many tech workers packing up for California and the Internet boom. Fast forward to today and the game I made up while driving called, "Count the out of state license tags at the stop light," as there are usually up to a half dozen at a time in areas of North Dallas. Real estate and land prices are inflating beyond crazy for Texas, even in rural areas with no job growth. This can only be a harbinger of bad economic news. All bubbles pop and what we will be left with are grotesque California-style, mega-apartment-complexes, an postage-stamp-lot housing additions, all paid for through under the table bribes by huge out of state developers. When people moving here can't find the "glorious job" they'd dreamed of being here, like the gold nugget in a Klondike stream, or our Texas summer heat causes Yankee migrants to wilt and long for the ice hockey, Lutefisk, and fresh Kielbasa, what will be left behind are cities within cities of cheap-built housing that can't break even on rent, so the owners will petition the Feds for rent subsidies to pack in welfare families and illegals. Thus begins the downward slide to ghettos and destroyed communities. Greed is a powerful drug, which often destroys the very object of its lust.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Texas Tillie 12/27/2021 1:57:24 PM (No. 1020186)
There are In-N-Out burger places in Texas, at least in the Houston area.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Safari Man 12/27/2021 2:21:08 PM (No. 1020195)
He's right about the traffic in Houston -- nightmare. It's rare that someone figures out that much of the problem is the feeder streets which allow a driveway into a strip mall every 50 yards. Then try driving FM1960. Worst I've ever seen. Billboards and signs by the millions. Driveways every 25 yards. If you've never been on FM1960, use google street view to get a feel -- I would never suggest anyone drive on that road that didn't have to.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: thekidsmom66 12/27/2021 3:34:16 PM (No. 1020239)
To those who look down their nose at Texas, and wouldn't dream of moving here...good. Because we really don't want your snobby self here anyway. :) Re: Houston. Houston is a big city, just like many other big cities. You think Los Angeles is better?? But that city is surrounded by lots of suburbs, like Spring, Conroe, Tomball, and The Woodlands, to name a few - all of which I have or had relatives living in, and which are great places. I assume most people can differentiate between a big city and the community around it.... but maybe not? I live in Fort Worth, and we've tripled in size in my lifetime. And I hate driving on I35 in that traffic, but I love the area I live in, surrounded by farms, trees, and a quiet neighborhood. Texas also just posted the most new jobs in the country, and our in-state employment is at a record high. And we don't have to walk around with cloth strips attached to our faces. We go to church (and, at least at my large church, use the common cup!), eat, shop, play, go to movies, malls, and grocery stores, and even gun shows, smile at and greet one another, without any masks or people asking for proof of vaccine status. And there is NOTHING like a road trip down the back roads of Texas where there REALLY IS so tons of wide open spaces. It's glorious. Farms, fields, trees, wild flowers, miles with no (or only the occasional) houses or businesses, small towns with little shops and friendly people and good food. Yeah, if you think we're not good enough for you, just keep thinking that. Please don't feel the need to come here and ruin what we've got going on. ;)
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Reply 11 - Posted by: thekidsmom66 12/27/2021 3:51:11 PM (No. 1020250)
Oh, the bumper stickers. He's correct, though I've seen plenty of Trump stickers. BUT, in the past 2 weeks, I've also seen 4 FJB stickers - not the kinder, gentler Brandon version, either. :D And, the Bushes were not born in Texas, though I realize W lived here a long time, and actually used to be a decent guy back then. He's mistaken on the burger debate because we actually have both Whataburger and In-N-Out here (which I found to be sadly very overrated from what I expected).
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Reply 12 - Posted by: MDConservative 12/27/2021 4:03:32 PM (No. 1020264)
Returned to Maryland to visit family during the holiday. In about a day I've experienced all the reasons I left for the Houston suburbs. It's back to the USSR, with mask mandates, and unhappy people schlepping around in misery. I'm counting the days when I can slip back out of the Land of un-Pleasant Living, the California of the East Coast.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: earlybird 12/27/2021 4:08:18 PM (No. 1020268)
If I’m a California snob for preferring my native state, then what the heck am I doing rooting for the UT Longhorns after recording every sports event of theirs that I’ve recorded? DH is a graduate of UT. It is possible to prefer one’s own state without being a snob. It’s also possible to be a Californian without wanting to live in Los Angeles or San Francisco. Somehow I am reminded of a reply here years ago by a woman from Texas: “I’ve never been to California, but I know I wouldn’t like it….” As for driving across Texas, done that. Twice. Highway 10. Three days (towing a race car trailer.)
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Reply 14 - Posted by: rocket-j-squirrel 12/27/2021 5:00:58 PM (No. 1020299)
As a neighbor north of La Rio Roja, I've been from Odessa to Kilgore and Denton to Galveston. Spent some time in Rock Port and Padre Island. In the 80s I had to travel to LA twice a week from Phx for my job. There is no question that Texans are the more tolerant and accepting people than those I had the unfortunate duty to work with in The City of Angles (sic). Oh, and they have Buc-ee's in Texas!
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Reply 15 - Posted by: red1066 12/27/2021 5:09:14 PM (No. 1020305)
#12 Help me to escape. My wife is from this semi communist state inhabited by federal employees, and she doesn't want to leave. The only good thing is that I live in one of the few conservative counties left in the state where most everyone goes about their business without all the Covid craziness.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Pinkpanther 12/27/2021 6:03:43 PM (No. 1020345)
#8 there’s In N Out all over the DFW area as well. I live close to Arlington and there’s one in my town and another less than 7 miles away.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: TXknitter 12/27/2021 7:13:52 PM (No. 1020387)
For all the reasons discussed here about the specialness of our Texas, I am working hard to help get Colonel Allen B. West elected Governor. Yes, like it or not, we are changing due to the continuing influx of millions seeking good jobs and a better quality of life. West Texas rural areas of my youth are sprawling with tract homes and mcmansions. We are going to have water issues coming up too. We are at a very serious crossroads and we need bold and thoughtful conservative governance. Go along get along Bush globalists are not going to really fight the left.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: HoundOfDoom 12/27/2021 7:51:00 PM (No. 1020410)
OK, I actually moved from San Clemente, CA to New Braunfels, TX, so my perspective is somewhat different. First, weather is better in coastal Cali, so let's just get that right out of the way. You will learn to love air conditioning here until you acclimate. Yes, people are dramatically nicer in Texas. It's Kind of shocking. Traffic is much worse. Roads are badly laid out. CalTrans does a better job. Texas has a long way to go to get as good. Also, many, MANY Semis and monster pickup trucks. As a side note, they actually tend to follow the speed limit here. In Cali. traffic laws are more like suggestions. Traffic into San Antonio is not as bad as into LA, but it's getting worse on a daily basis. Real estate was a great value when I moved here 2 years ago. It's since exploded. Austin has gotten particularly expensive. Research on RedFin and Zillow to get n idea of what the deal is for you. Usually no masks, but some places will ask. A polite decline works. Some school districts are requiring masks. Parents are attending board meetings and helping the boards to get their minds right, but the cities of Austin and Antonio are still hard left. I don't drink, so don't care about beer. Burgers. P. Terry's is a better representative of Texas fast food cuisine. And We like it. In-N-Out is here too. For a real road food treat, check out Buc'ees on I-35. Overall good food is harder to find and more expensive outside of the cities. We're still looking for an equivalent to Thai Bite in Aliso Viejo. Also, yelp is if limited use. Most people are too nice to leave the scathing reviews some of these places deserve.. Hope you were helped and entertained by this.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Proud Texan 12/27/2021 7:58:42 PM (No. 1020415)
The answer to any problems Texas may have can be solved by electing a carpetbagger governor. Yep, that's the answer.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: DVC 12/28/2021 1:05:00 AM (No. 1020524)
Schlichter should bail out, too. Born in California, visit frequently, would NEVER go back to live. As to Houston...I've been enough to know that I wouldn't want to live there. WAY too big. But attitude in Texas is, on the average, way better than in Cali. Besides, seems like 75% of California is populated by Mexicans already and going up.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: RayLRiv 12/28/2021 8:34:01 AM (No. 1020727)
No question - Texas (hard for this native Okie to admit) - but it's more Home than California will ever be.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: DebraAnn 12/28/2021 11:43:27 AM (No. 1020952)
I have made two trips to a little town outside of Dallas for business reasons, and I absolute;y love that area! Wouldn't mind Buying a house and living there forever.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: MickTurn 12/28/2021 11:55:27 AM (No. 1020973)
SO you've finally figured out Texas is Heaven and Californication is a Schifft Hole?
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Republicans wasted no time slamming Joe Biden after the flip-flopping president said 'there is no federal solution' to combatting COVID-19 on Monday despite draconian measures that have included federal mask and vaccine mandates.The GOP, citing a comment Biden made in October 2020, released a tweet implying the president did an about-face on his commitment to battling the pandemic, which has .come back with a vengeance with the highest amount of cases in a day since January - before vaccines were created. 'BIDEN, TODAY: 'There is no federal solution' to COVID,' the Republican National Committee tweeted, and included footage of the president from Monday's meeting with 25 governors.
Swalwell says people cheering on ‘Let’s
go Brandon’ guy are ‘indecent to their
core.’ Folks have thoughts.
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Posted by Imright 12/28/2021 12:23:01 AM Post Reply
U.S. Rep. Eric Swalwell sparked immediate criticism after clueless commentary about the “new crew” of Republicans who are “indecent to their core.”The California Democrat was handed a self-check mirror on Twitter after whining about Republican politicians cheering on the ‘Let’s go Brandon’ chants, including the latest one that seemed to set Swalwell off.An Oregon father of four told President Joe Biden ‘Let’s Go Brandon’ on Christmas Eve during a live-streamed call, setting off a meltdown on the left.“I refuse to believe we are this indecent as people. Not on Christmas Eve. And not to a person who lost his wife and daughter at Christmastime. We are better than this.
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