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If Kavanaugh And Barrett Betray Pro-Lifers,
We Must Blow Up The Conservative Legal Movement

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Posted By: earlybird, 11/7/2021 4:22:12 PM

Less than a handful of years after their hard-won elevation to the Supreme Court, Justices Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett are sending a chill down the spines of conservatives with a string of bad signals from their seats on the court. In July, Kavanaugh and Barrett joined the court’s leftist majority in declining to hear Arlene’s Flowers v. Washington, a critical religious liberty case. They again sided with the court’s left in a similar decision to turn away a religious exemption challenge to Maine’s vaccine mandate — which Justices Neil Gorsuch, Samuel Alito, and Clarence Thomas took pains to note was staggering in its hypocrisy.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: earlybird 11/7/2021 4:25:33 PM (No. 970460)
Here’s where Bovard is going. Important article All of this should make the guts of conservatives churn in the leadup to next month’s oral arguments in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health, the biggest abortion case the court has heard in decades. I’ve written about the importance of this case before: While abortion cases post-Roe have tricked up to the Supreme Court on rare occasions, none have presented the clear and fundamental question that Dobbs now brings: whether or not bans on pre-viability elective abortions violate the Constitution. In ruling on this case, the Court will have the opportunity to overturn both Roe and Casey, which together form the architecture for a constitutional entilement to abortion.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: earlybird 11/7/2021 4:30:00 PM (No. 970463)
Warning: This is very serious. Not for the drivebys. Serious pro-life Conservatives need to read this.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Come And Take It 11/7/2021 4:34:54 PM (No. 970465)
I do not see Roe being overturned by this court, and it has little to do with legal arguments. Kavanaugh and Barrett have both demonstrated their cowardice to rule upon issues of morality or character. I believe that both have been completely intimidated by that hard left commies that have threatened them and their families personally from the minute they began their confirmations. I think these tactics have been very effective at putting both in a position where they will not do their jobs for fear of reprisal by the professional agitators.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: FormerDem 11/7/2021 4:36:21 PM (No. 970466)
Yes. they have no idea what price has been paid to get them to scotus. The other things we could have been doing. They ate it all up, all our sweat and effort and losses of so many kinds, and went outside to play tennis. Screw 'em..
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Jesuslover54 11/7/2021 4:40:18 PM (No. 970469)
New Justices are always a pig in a poke and I fear we got two bad pigs.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: FormerDem 11/7/2021 4:40:32 PM (No. 970470)
Pack the court. They think they rule us Show them. And if the Donkeys want to lead the way I for one see their point.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: earlybird 11/7/2021 4:43:17 PM (No. 970473)
Photo is confusing. Appears to be Barrett with Mike Lee, not Kavanaugh.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: GoodDeal 11/7/2021 4:49:22 PM (No. 970479)
These conservative justices have severely disappointed us in the past and will do so again and again in the future. Robert’s is their shot caller and he is the biggest disappointment of them all. The side with the left because they are gutless cowards.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: clayusmcret 11/7/2021 4:49:51 PM (No. 970480)
These supposed conservative justices have made me sick. They lied during their confirmations and, based on their current patterns, are going to be as bad as other liberal yet supposedly conservative justices. Republicrats continually recommend judges that turn out to be liberals, or milquetoast justices at best. Just like all the traitors they recommended for Trump's senior administration positions. The swamp is only recommending members of the swamp.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: mre 11/7/2021 4:57:54 PM (No. 970484)
True conservatives should be against giving any person or government the authority or power to force a woman to have to carry any or every pregnancy to term.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: DogFacedPonySoldier 11/7/2021 5:14:43 PM (No. 970496)
Money talks. All it takes is to give a government official a few million dollars and then tell them to "Enjoy it. And if you don't do as we tell you, where you live."
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Reply 12 - Posted by: DogFacedPonySoldier 11/7/2021 5:16:23 PM (No. 970499)
my previous post... "We KNOW where you live."
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Nimby 11/7/2021 5:27:17 PM (No. 970506)
ACB is the typical Ivory tower professor
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Reply 14 - Posted by: daisey 11/7/2021 6:09:04 PM (No. 970522)
Amen!!!
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Reply 15 - Posted by: 49 Ford 11/7/2021 6:11:28 PM (No. 970524)
The problem with that, # 10, is that a pregnancy is not a possession or commodity, but a separate and distinct human life.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: udanja99 11/7/2021 6:22:39 PM (No. 970531)
Both are Catholic. I wonder if they are really willing to risk their souls.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: 49 Ford 11/7/2021 6:40:45 PM (No. 970539)
#16, maybe they are so overwhelmed by immersion in endless legal-shmeagle, laced with fearful self-interest, that they have lost track of the larger picture.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: rochow 11/7/2021 7:03:39 PM (No. 970557)
Kavanaugh is a Bush Republican, and Barrett is a leftie!
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Reply 19 - Posted by: harleynyc 11/7/2021 7:34:07 PM (No. 970577)
Pro-lifers don't realize what would be left of our nation without legal abortion since 1973: at least 4 times the number of welfare thugs destroying any chance for a civil society. The cost of crime, lives, prisons, all associated of living and health costs, and last but not least- every one a democrat voter, guaranteei this nation to be a one party banana republic.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: SkeezerMcGee 11/7/2021 7:36:28 PM (No. 970579)
The Articles title reads: "If Kavanaugh And Barrett Betray Pro-Lifers,We Must Blow Up The Conservative Legal Movement." This is a weak argument. Not overruling Roe will NOT be ANY betrayal. Neither Kavanaugh not Barrett implied any wish, desire or inclination to overturn either Roe or Casey. Neither Roe nor Casey are at ANY risk of being overturned. Barrett is a stickler for precedent. Roe and Casey are precedent, although the underlying reasoning is indeed weak What exactly is meant by "blowing up the conservative movement"? The only way to overturn Roe is by an amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The Court is going to affirm Roe, although it may tweak of replace the viability test in Casey The Article includes" "Just this week, Barrett and Kavanaugh embraced a theory of judicial supremacy out of step with a more conservative tradition when they both appeared openly skeptical of the construction of the Texas abortion law, which bans the practice after six weeks of pregnancy." The Texas abortion statute will be shot down - HARD - probably for several mutually independant reasons. The Supreme Court's majority opinion will have at least 5 justices, probably 6, and possibly 7.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Right Time 11/7/2021 7:52:46 PM (No. 970598)
Roberts is the snake in the Supreme Court. He is thoroughly undependable and untrustworthy. Not only that, but this snake gets Kavanaugh and Barrett to vote his way
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Reply 22 - Posted by: columba 11/7/2021 7:53:39 PM (No. 970600)
The idea that Christianity has no place in our nation's laws is mistaken, and we will all see the end of our nation because of this prejudice.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: BarryNo 11/7/2021 7:56:27 PM (No. 970604)
Why would you have to amend the Constitution to overturn Roe? Abortion is not in the Constitution. Just because a previous SCOTUS ruled it did, doesn't make it so. The real argument here, is at what point does human life begin? Because, if a child in the womb is human, then Roe is invalidated. This standard has never been established and, like all science, would be subject to further 'tweaks' once it was established. Nor, in any of the arguments around the decision of Roe vs. Wade, was it ever implied that abortion would apply for the entire 9 months a woman carried. Quite the contrary. The arguments around the decision implied very early - first trimester was one I heard at the time. Abortionists are regularly committing murder, by any reasonable standard.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Corndoggies 11/7/2021 8:06:58 PM (No. 970614)
I take issue with his description of the Texas abortion law. He states it bans abortion after 6 weeks. That’s not true. It bans abortion after a heartbeat is detected which is closer to 9 weeks. Six weeks is a liberal taking point. I’d also urge readers to inform themselves of other countries abortion laws. They’re very similar to the Texas law. America, unfortunately, has, by far, the most lenient abortion laws, right up to delivery. And that’s barbaric.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: Citoyen 11/7/2021 8:36:15 PM (No. 970631)
It seems that most posters missed the most important point of this article. Yes two of Trump’s Supreme Court picks have disappointed us. The solution the author proposes is more important than the complaints about the justices. The solution is to put on the court people that will not disappoint. As an example he lists Senators Harley, Cruz and Lee. The odds are great that any of these, and there are others, would vote to overturn Roe. The Republican senators are acting as if we are still in the post Revolutionary era when the Supreme Court was just one of three equal parts of the federal government. That era is long gone. The Democrats nominate those who will not surprise the left. The Republicans need to do the same. Enough of the crap shoot that brought us Roberts, Kavanaugh and Barrett.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: ussjimmycarter 11/7/2021 8:52:02 PM (No. 970647)
President Trump made a couple of very bad appointments! Who was advising him? The “turtle” owned by the Chicomms? Or Miss Lindsay?
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Reply 27 - Posted by: chumley 11/7/2021 8:59:20 PM (No. 970653)
Forget liberal vs conservative justices. One someone reaches that level, they are elites, and they despise us common rabble. From their standpoint, blacks are and have been a drain on society. The more of them there are, the worse things get. Since a large plurality of abortions are performed on blacks, it reduces their population significantly. Its far more cost effective to kill them in utero than to support them their whole lives. Only us common rabble care about lives.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Come And Take It 11/7/2021 9:01:37 PM (No. 970654)
Perhaps the point was also missed, #25, that POTUS nominates SCOTUS picks regardless of who controls CONgress, and its pretty unlikely that Cruz or Lee (who is nothing but a phony conservative anyway) are going to be nominated anytime soon. Incidentally, who do you think steered Barrett and Kavanaugh to Trump in the first place? It was China Mitch. CONgress has historically done a lousy job of advise and consent, even though that is their job to do so. Now we propose picking judges directly from their ranks, instead. Hard pass. Articles like this are nothing but mental masturbation. I think most here understood the point perfectly. We simply disagree with the general premise.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: doctorfixit 11/7/2021 9:14:21 PM (No. 970670)
Get rid of the federal judiciary. Politicians must face consequences, preferably political.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: NotaBene 11/8/2021 12:53:32 AM (No. 970806)
Comey Barrett and Kavanaugh. Were placed in the court by the Heritage Foundation. If they fail to defend Life, Heritage funding must stop.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: Trigger2 11/8/2021 2:05:26 AM (No. 970839)
Oh, don't forget the SC's previous decisions decided erroneously because the correct one would incite the country into insurrection.
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