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Congress approves alcohol monitors in
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Posted By: Ribicon, 11/9/2021 5:16:14 PM

Congress is requiring in its $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill that automakers install monitoring systems in their cars to stop drivers from operating their vehicles while intoxicated. The bipartisan package, which is on its way to the president's desk after passing the House on Friday, allocates around $17 billion for the road safety programs. Monitoring systems to stop drunk drivers would roll out in all new vehicles as early as 2026, according to the new legislation. First, however, the Transportation Department would have to assess what the best form of technology is and give automakers ample time to comply. DOT Secretary Pete Buttigieg said Monday that the safety programs included


Big Brother is my copilot; hard to summarize how much is wrong with this, and how many better ways this can be handled. Good thing the Kennedys can all afford chauffeurs! Also, such a system is worthless as it would do nothing to stop drivers impaired by any number of street drugs, legal marijuana, or the staggering number of prescription drugs in common use. This would also make cars cost more, and could cost lives in cases where someone trying to flee an attacker has the car disabled (say, with a drink thrown on their clothing). And, people using cell phones are by far the largest danger, but the call carriers rely on phone drivers for a lot of their profits.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Northcross 11/9/2021 5:28:09 PM (No. 972634)
A perfect liberal solution. Has zero affect on drunk driving accidents but forces innocent people to pay extra for something that they will never need nor use.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: GreatGreyhounds 11/9/2021 5:28:17 PM (No. 972635)
Never… I’ll keep my current vehicles rather than submit to the Nazis in DC!
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Reply 3 - Posted by: smak90 11/9/2021 5:28:35 PM (No. 972636)
Just spent countless hours tracking down an EVAP leak on an old Volvo causing the check engine light to come on and fail the state inspection. Can't wait to spend money paying for something I don't need that will cost me time and money fixing something poorly designed to pass a government mandate. Thanks Republicans who voted for this crap.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici 11/9/2021 5:34:17 PM (No. 972638)
Like so many other "safety" and fuel efficiency mandates, the real purpose of this is to make cars too expensive for the lower class.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: DVC 11/9/2021 5:39:16 PM (No. 972641)
You can be certain that these damned things will be shutting down your car when you don't want it to. I never drink alcohol, and I'll bet that this piece of garbage will cause me trouble, anyway. I may already own the last cars I will ever get.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: skacmar 11/9/2021 5:39:50 PM (No. 972643)
More feel good but useless regulations that will increase the cost of vehicles for everyone because of the few foolish enough to drink and drive. Maybe the punishment for drunk or impaired driving should be a little more severe than the slap on the wrist most people get. No more hearing about Joe who just killed a family of 4 in his 10th drunk driving crash.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: jalo1951 11/9/2021 5:41:00 PM (No. 972645)
Being a non drinker, ever, I appreciate that any new car I purchase will cost me more than necessary. Guess someone in congress owns stock in such a company. I guess this also means Hunter won’t be driving a new car anytime soon. FJB
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Reply 8 - Posted by: EQKimball 11/9/2021 5:44:10 PM (No. 972649)
Eventually, cars will self-report speeding and other violations. Accrued points will result in penalties including loss of driving privilege. Big Brother in your home will do the same in tracking your energy consumption and temperature settings. Welcome to 1984.
23 people like this.

Reply 9 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 11/9/2021 5:44:55 PM (No. 972651)
Next Step - - A highly sensitive monitor able to detect if anyone has eaten roasted peppers in the past three days. Eating roasted peppers has nothing to do with safe driving - - but what the hell - - we may as well monitor for them. This new law will have the support of a majority of Pubbies - - guaranteed.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: raspberry 11/9/2021 5:50:58 PM (No. 972654)
I tried a beer once in 1956. It made me sick and I have had nothing since. Now I'll have to pay for this! What about drugged out drivers? This oppressive government is the opposite of the liberty the Founding Fathers guaranteed us in 1776. How sad.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Roscoelewis 11/9/2021 5:52:27 PM (No. 972655)
And next, a weed and then a meth monitor. As it is, the drunks just get someone else to blow on the breathalyzer inter lock.
11 people like this.

Reply 12 - Posted by: jimincalif 11/9/2021 6:03:36 PM (No. 972659)
Just great, now that they passed the bill we can find out what's in it. My alcohol consumption is about one beer every two or three months, my wife doesn't drink at all. Love that we will have to pay for this and probably blow into a device just to drive my own car, and call AAA when it malfunctions and won't let the car start.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Come And Take It 11/9/2021 6:04:07 PM (No. 972660)
More electronic stupidity added to the cost of the vehicle. I don't drink at all, and it wouldn't affect me in any way, but I object to this endless nanny state bullshit and the cost of all of it. Is personal responsibility even a choice anymore? This will do next to nothing to stop impaired driving. Nancy Boy Buttplug should spend some time actually fixing the damn supply chain crisis and quit jerking off over this nonsense.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Surroundedbyblue 11/9/2021 6:06:12 PM (No. 972661)
Makes me think about going mad max with an old, non-computer car. FJB and his administration.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: offrope 11/9/2021 6:10:14 PM (No. 972667)
Cool - another black market opportunity for a way to hack past this! Should be ready by the time the first car rolls off the assembly line.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: GO3 11/9/2021 6:20:22 PM (No. 972673)
Yup, #15. I imagine gear heads are already making plans to break the crypto on this and bypass the system.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: bogeegolf 11/9/2021 6:35:02 PM (No. 972682)
Just a thought. How about putting drunk drivers in jail. A few years ago in our area there was a guy that had 14 dwi’s or so. Still driving. I also don’t drink so this will be one big pain in the butt.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: kiwinews 11/9/2021 7:07:59 PM (No. 972702)
And how is this supposed to work with the gallons of alcohol hand sanitizer everyone keeps in their car these days?
10 people like this.

Reply 19 - Posted by: TLCary 11/9/2021 7:08:05 PM (No. 972703)
#3 TN has no vehicle inspections (and no state income tax). Inspections have been shown to have absolutely no impact on vehicle safety statistics. They just cost people money and give more power to the state. I’m surprised they didn’t come up with a federal inspection law… well, they have next year.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: BarryNo 11/9/2021 7:11:27 PM (No. 972708)
Once again they violate the Constitution left, right and sideways. Invasions of privacy such as these have long been dismissed by the courts. It's inclusion may sink the entire thing. I hope it does. It is unreasonable to spy on an every day citizen as if he is a criminal. Now, you could include the device in the cars, but it would take a court order to hook it up - and only in cases where a driver has had multiple DUI convictions. This pig won't fly.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Luke21 11/9/2021 7:12:43 PM (No. 972710)
We need the English press to tell us what these criminal bozos are up to.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: ussjimmycarter 11/9/2021 7:24:57 PM (No. 972722)
Will add 5,000 to each car and these bad boys break all the time! Did you just use mouthwash? Have aftershave on? They might register! Going to buy stock in one of these companies!
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Reply 23 - Posted by: ladydawgfan 11/9/2021 8:03:13 PM (No. 972740)
I own a 2017 Toyota with just under 20k miles and my father owns a 2012 Toyota with around 46k miles. With all of the Big Brother BS being foisted on new car owners, and given the high reliability of Toyota vehicles from personal experience, it is highly likely that these cars will be in the family until the day they are replaced by something that can fly above the JAX traffic jams!! FJB and Let’s go Brandon!!
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Reply 24 - Posted by: JHHolliday 11/9/2021 8:07:22 PM (No. 972741)
I never drink and drive. After over 40 years in the insurance business I have seen the costs of getting caught. It will cost you $10,000 plus with the fines and increased insurance rates. That said, this is unconstitutional on the face of it. Unreasonable search and seizure. This may sound like a “good idea” but what’s next. Maybe we will be ‘allowed’ in the future to drive more than a few miles per day....25 miles? 50 miles? It will be up to your overlords.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: downnout 11/9/2021 8:29:05 PM (No. 972758)
And they’ll also have a monitoring device so the government will know if you listen to conservative radio. s/
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Reply 26 - Posted by: red1066 11/9/2021 8:34:45 PM (No. 972761)
The price of used cars will immediately increase in value.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: Jethro bo 11/9/2021 8:41:34 PM (No. 972766)
In the process of restoring a '70 Chevy. Next will be a '78 Mercedes. Both Grandfathered. Both without any modern electronics (i.g. spy equipment). Restoring both will actuall cost less than buying one brand new car. Sure, give up modern stuff like blackboxes and GPS tracking. But, more off the grid so to say.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: joew9 11/9/2021 8:59:49 PM (No. 972775)
This will add cost to the car and it won't work. Just like the TPMS system. The extra money it added is more than the system can ever save. They justified it by exaggerating the statistics and science.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: T&L 11/9/2021 9:03:27 PM (No. 972777)
This is not about controlling drunk drivers. This is about controlling you. You are being conditioned to accept every possible erosion of your personal liberty. Bath water warm enough for you yet?
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Reply 30 - Posted by: padiva 11/9/2021 9:04:31 PM (No. 972779)
Do you suppose that the government in all of this folly will have a monitoring device that will require yearly maintenance/recertification which will cost the car owner even more money?
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Reply 31 - Posted by: mc squared 11/9/2021 9:04:33 PM (No. 972780)
I can't imagine the problems with this fantasy. Taking buzzed friend home? Mouth wash? Just plain defects? Remember in the 70s when your car wouldn't start unless both seatbelts we're latched? Groceries on the seat:. Wrap the belt around it. Leave me the hell alone. Average car prices are north of 30 grand now. I'd bet The Mothers Against Every Damn Thing are behind this too. It's very profitable for them.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: rochow 11/9/2021 9:08:17 PM (No. 972783)
One assumes that all the congress critters will have it in their cars as well?????
4 people like this.

Reply 33 - Posted by: Birddog 11/9/2021 9:10:27 PM (No. 972786)
I move that we "Require" the same exact equipt on every congress critters desk...cannot use the microphones or cast a Vote until they "Blow Clean"
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Reply 34 - Posted by: pearlyjo 11/9/2021 9:22:56 PM (No. 972791)
Isn’t this really just a form of profiling? I thought Lefties didn’t like profiling.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: NorthernDog 11/9/2021 9:23:04 PM (No. 972793)
I'm beginning to admire the 'bare bones' cars you could buy at one time. No bells & whistles that eventually break. Made it much easier to maintain.
4 people like this.

Reply 36 - Posted by: hershey 11/9/2021 9:43:45 PM (No. 972811)
Oh goodie...even get them in cars owned by non-drinkers because Big Daddy Biteme says so...this wanker has got to go...but then Mattress Back is waiting in the wings...we are soooooooo screwed...
3 people like this.

Reply 37 - Posted by: Venturer 11/9/2021 10:06:50 PM (No. 972825)
Elect a Republican in 2024 and this BS will die.
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Reply 38 - Posted by: Birddog 11/9/2021 10:27:49 PM (No. 972843)
At a time of "Supply Chain" issues and chip shortages, where Auto Manufacturers cannot even finish cars to be able to SELL them...congress passes a Law to require even MORE chips be mandated for every new car. Wanna guess where these new Chips are gonna hafta be made? Hint: it won't be in the USA. Did'ja know all new Tractors, Combines, large Farm Equip ALREADY have these installed? Not activated though(at least not in the USA)...but...every function of every one of those tractors is chip controlled(so much is controlled and monitored via GPS and hundreds of sensors that micro amounts of fertilizer, seed, even water is controlled down to the sq/ft or less, over hundreds of thousands of acres, multiple feilds, auto adjusted to weather, winds, humidity, growth stage, soil moisture, mineral content, PH levels) and any attempted alteration of software/function shuts the machines down...including multiple chips that control emissions, gas mileage, horsepower. NONE of which are the Farmers allowed to repair themselves. The "Software" is owned/retained by the manufacturer...spend $300k on a combine and you still do not "Own" it...One Glitch and they "Brick", stop in their tracks and will not re-start until either hauled to a dealer or a "House Call" from a tech is made.
6 people like this.

Reply 39 - Posted by: Safari Man 11/9/2021 10:34:33 PM (No. 972850)
guilty until proven innocent
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Reply 40 - Posted by: wilarrbie 11/9/2021 10:37:58 PM (No. 972853)
When they have anti-gravity flying cars, I'll bite. I would never fly drunk unless a real pilot is at the helm. Until then - No.
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Reply 41 - Posted by: MDConservative 11/9/2021 11:06:17 PM (No. 972870)
Anyone willing to water that tree of liberty over this? Winston Smith had less intrusion in 1984 than the average American "living free" today. So, you blow into the tube, get into an accident with a .05 BAC, and it's all recorded for some shyster.
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Reply 42 - Posted by: Rumblehog 11/9/2021 11:24:04 PM (No. 972878)
Mary Jo Kopechne would still be with us had Ted encountered one of these back in 1969.
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Reply 43 - Posted by: Trigger2 11/10/2021 4:41:19 AM (No. 972976)
Only alcohol monitors? How about drug monitors?
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Reply 44 - Posted by: doctorfixit 11/10/2021 7:34:29 AM (No. 973079)
Guess I will never own a new car. Thank you, F. Joe Biden. Thank you, 13 GOP rats.
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Reply 45 - Posted by: GO3 11/10/2021 11:07:52 AM (No. 973348)
People in my small town are profiled every time they buy booze at the local market when the cashier enters the birthdate into the register. Heck, Virginia stores have been scanning your drivers license for years. BTW, Ted Kennedy didn’t need these modern electronic devices. He would have been president if he had just driven a VW.
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Reply 46 - Posted by: kono 11/10/2021 2:02:56 PM (No. 973495)
Infrastructure? Maybe the "infrastructure" of Authoritarian Socialism. The American Bolshevik takeover facilitated by twisting of words.
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While introducing Democrats at the 2021 United Nations Climate Change Conference, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi scolded the audience after they failed to clap for her and other representatives.The Speaker was introducing several lawmakers when the embarrassing moment took place.“Good afternoon, everyone,” Pelosi started. “Uh it is really an honor to be here with our Distinguished Delegation from the House of Representatives. I want them all to stand so you can see who they are. Congressman Earl Blumenauer, McCallum, McCollum, Pingree, Keating, Bonamici, Brownley,
Brian Williams to leave NBC after 28 years:
Former Nightly News anchor who was demoted
for telling false war story calls it 'the
end of a chapter and the beginning of another'
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Posted by Imright 11/9/2021 11:16:48 PM Post Reply
Brian Williams, who remade his career as an MSNBC host after losing his job as NBC Nightly News anchor for making false claims about a wartime story, is leaving the network after 28 years.Williams said in a note to colleagues that 'following much reflection,' he had decided to exit when his contract ends in December.'This is the end of a chapter and the beginning of another,' Williams wrote. 'There are many things I want to do, and I'll pop up again somewhere.'Willliams, 62, said he will take a few months off to spend time with his family.
America's NINE political tribes: Voters
in the polarized US are made up of groups
including the 'Outsider Left,' 'Establishment
Liberals,' 'Committed Conservatives' and
the 'Ambivalent Right,' new research reveals
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Posted by Imright 11/10/2021 1:13:14 AM Post Reply
U.S. voters are segmented into nine political tribes - four that lean left, four that lean right, and the 'stressed sideliners' who have a minimal interest in politics - according to a report released Tuesday by the Pew Research Center.Pew surveyed 10,221 adults this July, but has been conducting interviews with respondents since January 2020. While partisan polarization remained high, the research also showed that there are divisions within both the Democrats and the Republicans - as members' views vary on issues including racial justice, abortion, taxes and the future role of former President Donald Trump.
White House Still Unclear When Joe Biden
Will Get a Physical
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Posted by Imright 11/10/2021 1:06:59 AM Post Reply
The White House remains elusive about the timing of a physical exam for President Joe Biden, as more Americans question his physical and mental health.The White House previously said last May Biden would get a physical before the end of the year and in October, White House press secretary Jen Psaki said it would be “soon.”Biden will turn 79 on November 20.Deputy Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said Tuesday she had no update about an upcoming physical for the president.“I don’t have anything for you,” she said, when asked by reporters for an update during the daily briefing.
'The View' guest clashes with Adam Schiff
over discredited dossier: 'Your credibility
is' diminished
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Posted by Imright 11/9/2021 10:32:58 PM Post Reply
Guest co-host on "The View" Morgan Ortagus confronted Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., Tuesday over his role in promoting the discredited anti-Trump Steele dossier. During a segment in which Schiff was invited on the show to promote a new book, Ortagus accused him of potentially helping to spread Russian disinformation through his promotion of the dossier and suggested his credibility had been diminished because of his actions. (Tweet/Video) "You defended, promoted and even read into the congressional record the Steele dossier. We know last week the main source of the dossier was indicted by the FBI for lying about most of the key claims in that dossier.
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